Congrats. There will be someone coming round to punch you in the bicep later.
WTF China. Catastrophic news for the global economy. If only they’d been this decisive when it came to containing the initial outbreakThanks a lot.
Replace weeks with years and you were right
I've read before that it's not a good look for Chinese leaders to reverse decisions so they never make big changes in CCP congress years and November is the next one. I've seen a lot of people predict that zero covid will be dropped as a strategy after November, but not before.
The article linked alludes to that "But Andy Chen, an analyst at consultancy Trivium China, said Beijing would revise its policy after Xi was confirmed for a third term as the country’s leader late this year."
Hopefully that will be the case.
You just led me down a 3 hour wormhole with that 2 year old reply, and I’m legitimately angry at you right now.
I've read before that it's not a good look for Chinese leaders to reverse decisions so they never make big changes in CCP congress years and November is the next one. I've seen a lot of people predict that zero covid will be dropped as a strategy after November, but not before.
The article linked alludes to that "But Andy Chen, an analyst at consultancy Trivium China, said Beijing would revise its policy after Xi was confirmed for a third term as the country’s leader late this year."
Hopefully that will be the case.
They should. Fosun Pharma reached an agreement to distribute and manufacture the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine as early as in the spring of 2020 and should have produce it for the mainland by now. Only Hong Kong and Macau received those vaccines so far, but overzealous national pride from Beijing has held up funds in favor of companies that are not Fosun Pharma. The CCP were relying on Chinese homegrown mRNA vaccines and hoping to not rely on foreign suppliers, but there is a serious lagging behind when it comes to mastering mRNA vaccine technology. It's just horrible to see how far one government can go out of hubris.Time to swallow their pride and order vaccine doses from the US, or whoever.
This is what I've heard from my new guru Peter Zeihan, it's become a focal point of propaganda that China can't admit inferiority of vaccine or tactics with Covid.They should. Fosun Pharma reached an agreement to distribute and manufacture the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine as early as in the spring of 2020 and should have produce it for the mainland by now. Only Hong Kong and Macau received those vaccines so far, but overzealous national pride from Beijing has held up funds in favor of companies that are not Fosun Pharma. The CCP were relying on Chinese homegrown mRNA vaccines and hoping to not rely on foreign suppliers, but there is a serious lagging behind when it comes to mastering mRNA vaccine technology. It's just horrible to see how far one government can go out of hubris.
Here's an article from May 24 about why this is happening in China: China's Bet on Homegrown mRNA Vaccines Holds Back Nation
edit: And now this! Whoever runs the health ministry over there, what a stupid son of a bitch.
Shanghai orders over half its Residents to undergo covid testing as resurgence fears rise (WSJ)
Just tested positive and not feeling good at all.
Yup, that's what I heard. Thanks!Hope you feel better soon just have to rest and wait it out. It seems to picking up steam again more and more cases
No it’s not. But I would be interested to see if multiple exposures to omicron do eventually prompt more of an immune response in those that had an initial infection with a non-omicron variant. Since this is what is playing out around the world now.
No it’s not. But I would be interested to see if multiple exposures to omicron do eventually prompt more of an immune response in those that had an initial infection with a non-omicron variant. Since this is what is playing out around the world now.
In Australia, most peoples first infection will be omicron, which looking at the the data produces a decent antibody response against omicron. So we are possibly lucky to have stopped those initial waves.
It’s very complicated, the idea of immune imprinting was new to me.
Understanding the biological info underlying that paper is way beyond me, but the headlines do relate to immunity boosting, rather than to the question of whether the immune system does its job once infected. Also, it's studying a substantial group of triple vaccinated workers but by the time you get to individual cohorts being compared (eg: infected with Wuhan v infected with Alpha etc) the numbers of people in each group get really small. In other words - I don't know whether to care or not.No mention of disease severity. We’ve known for ages that vaccination/prior infection gives fairly limited protection against reinfection with omicron. What seems likely though, is that recurrent exposure lowers the risk of a bad outcome to fairly trivial levels. The IFR is currently a fraction of what you see from influenza and it’s trending lower all the time. That’s really all that matters now we have to live with this virus.
Have there been any studies on post-covid common colds etc.? I feel like since I had covid in December I’m getting colds far more regularly and they’re hitting me far worse too. Had one for a couple of weeks now and it’s been rough. Went to the doctors and they told me it was just a common cold. Doesn’t feel like it.
No expert, unlike @jojojo, but I believe I read that the reaction was more likely to occur after the first one than any subsequent jabs.What are the chances of getting that blood clot related issue if I boost using the AstraZeneca vaccine? First two were AZ as well
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...irus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reportingWhat are the chances of getting that blood clot related issue if I boost using the AstraZeneca vaccine? First two were AZ as well
It mostly happened with first shots. If you were fine with that - and still fine after your second shot - I wouldn't worry too much about the booster. The already tiny risk will be even smaller for you at this stage.Up to 8 June 2022, the MHRA had received Yellow Card reports of 444 cases of major thromboembolic events (blood clots) with concurrent thrombocytopenia (low platelet counts) in the UK following vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. Fifty-one of the 444 reports have been reported after a second dose. Of the 444 reports, 221 occurred in females, and 218 occurred in males aged from 18 to 93 years. The overall case fatality rate was 18% with 81 deaths, six of which occurred after the second dose.
Completely anecdotal but it seems to be everywhere at the moment, feel like I know more people with it now than at any other time of the pandemic.
What are the chances of getting that blood clot related issue if I boost using the AstraZeneca vaccine? First two were AZ as well
If I'm remembering correctly, clots were more associated with Pfizer. Moderna didn't seem to have the issue. Not sure about AZ or JnJ.
As an aside, I had two Pfizer shots. Then for a Moderna booster. Couple weeks later I had a trip to the emergency and after ruling out clots been diagnosed w pericarditis. Apparently that and myocarditis being seen more in men.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html
Clots were AZ and were actually quite a big deal at the time. Enough to get it pulled from use in numerous countries.
Heart inflammation was linked to Pfizer and Moderna but was much rarer / less severe.
I'm sure if you go back through this thread, you'll find plenty of people saying just that, as it's true in the case of pretty much every vaccine. And I believe that is a pro-vaccine line anyway. Nothing is without risk, but on balance, it works out in favour of the vaccine causing less harm than the virus and its own effects and consequences. This will inevitably be the same when the next pandemic hits us. Sadly, I think you've gone through this one in the country that politicised it more than any other.Ah that sounds about right.
Edit: pardon my venting below. I'm just really exhausted, frustrated from my current health status
I checked out a little then - I couldn't stand the rhetoric from either the pro or anti vaccine side on the issue. As expected, here we are a year onwards and a middle of the road voice would have once again been the correct answer: vaccines were effective but yes there are side effects, albeit rare.
Was reading that the heart complications are 1 in 10,000. That's classified as rare. Shame to fall into it but my biggest gripe was that the US didn't offer to subsidize any medical costs associated with ill effects. We don't have to debate the challenge in connecting the dots to approve payments but it's the principle. I'm nearing $1000 in medical bills and that's with outstanding private health insurance. Not to mention it's months between fecking specialist appointments because of a large hcp shortage.