SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Massive Spanner said:
But they told me so it must be right? Isn’t that how these things work, or something. Anyway fair enough, obviously it was a different experience depending on the person and location, and good point about the backlog making things worse.

they won’t lock down again anyway so it’s all fine. Wouldn’t be opposed to them bringing back mandatory masks now for winter though. Had to get public transport to work this morning and people were sneezing and coughing away. Definitely going into work with colds the morons. I haven’t had a cold since before Covid and I plan on keeping it that way!
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:lol: I’m sure they’re right! I also heard about eerily quiet ED’s and GP surgeries during lockdown. But everyone I knew who worked there was more freaked out about what would happen next than enjoying the quiet life while it lasted.
 
After over 2 years of successfully avoiding it I've tested positive today. I don't have a sore throat or a runny nose but I've got a fever, aching bones (especially my lower back and a headache. My sinuses are a bit funny too, I feel like I constantly want to sneeze but so far I haven't. Annoying that I've got so many symptoms, most people I know who've had it recently only had 1 or no symptoms.
 
This is probably a stupid question: Now that everyone in my house currently has covid that means we can stop isolating from eachother right? We've all tested positive in the last 2 days.
 
Are there any documents which give a full list of those people who may be offered the flu vaccine - at least in more detail than the NHS website?
 
0le said:
Are there any documents which give a full list of those people who may be offered the flu vaccine - at least in more detail than the NHS website?
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Worth keeping in mind that if you aren't eligible for the free NHS flu jab you can still pay for it. Lots of chemists do it, like:
https://lloydspharmacy.com/pages/flu-vaccination
£16.99 (or free) with them, depending on whether you qualify for the free NHS jab.

You can't buy a covid booster (fourth dose or higher) though, you need to meet the NHS criteria for those.
 
So the Mrs and I finally got covid this week.

Mild cold symptoms so far and its knocked my sleep pattern out of sync.

I think I am the last person to catch it in my entire family.

Missing contact with the kids and grand kids but fingers crossed it won't be for long.
 
Wolverine said:
GPs use public health england's "green book" regarding who should get flu jabs
For definitive list its here page 14 onwards
https://assets.publishing.service.g...luenza-green-book-chapter19-16September22.pdf
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Thanks

jojojo said:
Worth keeping in mind that if you aren't eligible for the free NHS flu jab you can still pay for it. Lots of chemists do it, like:
https://lloydspharmacy.com/pages/flu-vaccination
£16.99 (or free) with them, depending on whether you qualify for the free NHS jab.

You can't buy a covid booster (fourth dose or higher) though, you need to meet the NHS criteria for those.
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So I got offered both for free on the NHS but I do not fall under any of that criteria. Maybe a family member has some issues which I do not know about... I got offered to do both at the same time and I was like, nah, feck that. :lol: Glad I staggered it.
 


Glad that’s been cleared up and now we can all move on with zero consequences.
 
calodo2003 said:
Why are they performing that? Was she not allowing the normal test to take place?
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I dunno. Everything related to the zero COVID policy is pure madness when that country can and should do better efforts to improve vaccination rates among the elderly and children.

When Hong Kong had the omicron surge, their main problem behind deaths was about really low vaccination rates in those groups, especially the elderly. Whoever the people running the Ministry of Health over there in China are, they have to get sacked.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
I dunno. Everything related to the zero COVID policy is pure madness when that country can and should do better efforts to improve vaccination rates among the elderly and children.

When Hong Kong had the omicron surge, their main problem behind deaths was about really low vaccination rates in those groups, especially the elderly. Whoever the people running the Ministry of Health over there in China are, they have to get sacked.
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But they get their elections done quickly!
 
carpy said:
:lol: They're quite clearly trying to get zip ties around her wrists.
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If you scroll down the replies a bit you'll someone post a video of what she apparently did before the arrest. It's... interesting.
 
I had my flu jab and no side effects whatsoever. Wondering whether the nurse did it correctly now. :lol:
 
0le said:
I had my flu jab and no side effects whatsoever. Wondering whether the nurse did it correctly now. :lol:
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I’ve had the flu jab loads of years and only ever had a reaction on the very first time I had it. Since then, nothing
 
Any recent research on Myocarditis risk of additional boosters? I'm booked in for the fourth dose but I'm beginning to wonder if I actually need it as it seems a lot of doctors are not convinced the risk is worth it for under 40s. If you had 3 uneventful, covid symptom free vaccines already are you home and dry for subsequent doses?
 
11101 said:
Any recent research on Myocarditis risk of additional boosters? I'm booked in for the fourth dose but I'm beginning to wonder if I actually need it as it seems a lot of doctors are not convinced the risk is worth it for under 40s. If you had 3 uneventful, covid symptom free vaccines already are you home and dry for subsequent doses?
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No useful data, no. Although common sense implies if you’ve tolerated 3 doses well then another one is very unlikely to cause any problems.

Equally, if you’ve already had covid (in addition to 3 doses of the vaccine) it’s hard to see any good reason to get a booster. Especially if you didn’t get too sick from covid.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
No useful data, no. Although common sense implies if you’ve tolerated 3 doses well then another one is very unlikely to cause any problems.

Equally, if you’ve already had covid (in addition to 3 doses of the vaccine) it’s hard to see any good reason to get a booster. Especially if you didn’t get too sick from covid.
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I've been wondering the same thing, so thanks for the answer.

Must admit, without the daily updates of tweets from scientists and researchers you and JoJo were posting in the thick of it all reassuring me of things, I've started to become concerned about the increasing number of anti-vaxx posts and stories cropping up.

I know it's probably absolute horse shit, but it'd be nice to know for certain that all the 'Vaccine injury' stuff is just an extention of the Ivermectin crowd talking nonsense. I personally know of nobody who had a reaction stronger than a rough day after their jab and a sore arm.
 
11101 said:
Any recent research on Myocarditis risk of additional boosters? I'm booked in for the fourth dose but I'm beginning to wonder if I actually need it as it seems a lot of doctors are not convinced the risk is worth it for under 40s. If you had 3 uneventful, covid symptom free vaccines already are you home and dry for subsequent doses?
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Ive had 4 shots and flu vaccine and not a bother (other than the normal feeling like crap after the first 2)
 
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The UK's vaccine advisory group (JCVI) aren't offering fourth doses to under 50s, unless you're in a clinically risk group or in a high risk job.

If you're under 50, without other risk factors, and have had a full course of vaccines (defined as the initial two shots + one booster) then your chances of serious illness (hospitalisation or worse) are so low that it's not seen as necessary. Adverse reactions can happen with any medication - including vaccines - so they only recommend medication when it's got a clear benefit.

For everyone, the evidence suggests that if you have had covid you should then wait at least three months (and preferably 6 if you're in good general health) before having a booster. Apparently your body creates a better/broader immune response in that situation.

They'll rerun the numbers if something changes (new variant or whatever) and they'll check them again every few months to see whether protection is waning in any of the groups.
 
I'm a bit worried, had it last week with rather mild (no caughing at all) symptoms for 2-3 days, stayed isolated in the bedroom and after 4-5 days the test were all negative again. Yet now I start to really feel my throat hurting (didn't before at all) and start feeling unwell again. The thing is my wife is pregnant and I feel like isolating me all over again as we've been semi lax about since two days as I was feeling totally fine. Probably just a cold on top but still makes you feel uneasy.
 
jojojo said:
The UK's vaccine advisory group (JCVI) aren't offering fourth doses to under 50s, unless you're in a clinically risk group or in a high risk job.

If you're under 50, without other risk factors, and have had a full course of vaccines (defined as the initial two shots + one booster) then your chances of serious illness (hospitalisation or worse) are so low that it's not seen as necessary. Adverse reactions can happen with any medication - including vaccines - so they only recommend medication when it's got a clear benefit.

For everyone, the evidence suggests that if you have had covid you should then wait at least three months (and preferably 6 if you're in good general health) before having a booster. Apparently your body creates a better/broader immune response in that situation.

They'll rerun the numbers if something changes (new variant or whatever) and they'll check them again every few months to see whether protection is waning in any of the groups.
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I've had 4 and would love to have a 5th especially as the new vaccines have been tweaked for omicron. I'll see if I can get my doc to get me a 5th next time I go.
 
This has to be the deadliest result of the most extreme form of lockdown so far.:(:(:(



If Asian neighbors (not called North Korea) say they can manage without lockdowns anymore, then you have to ask yourselves what is going through the minds of that grossly incompetent government. Over 100 days of lockdown, are you joking?

I know that there is no such thing as zero risk with vaccines, but vaccines remain the best way out to end the pandemic and then to let people earn their living as normally as possible.
 
(I’ve not been following the chinese reaction too much but have heard of their zero covid policy).
So, why are the Chinese doing that? Why can’t they open up like other highly vaccinated countries?
 
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