SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

It’s actually quite funny. I don’t think I know a single person who hasn’t been struck down at least once over the last month. Literally half of my daughter’s class were all out at once. Her school lost so many teachers they had to get parents to help as there’s not a single substitute teacher available in the whole county.

I was supposed to go to three pre-Christmas drinks over the last week. All cancelled when the host got sick (kind of pleased about this)

I wonder if in previous years we were more likely to crack on and get on with things despite being sick? Or is there a whole load more illness around this winter than ever before? Either way, it’s fecking nuts.
 
Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

It’s actually quite funny. I don’t think I know a single person who hasn’t been struck down at least once over the last month. Literally half of my daughter’s class were all out at once. Her school lost so many teachers they had to get parents to help as there’s not a single substitute teacher available in the whole county.

I was supposed to go to three pre-Christmas drinks over the last week. All cancelled when the host got sick (kind of pleased about this)

I wonder if in previous years we were more likely to crack on and get on with things despite being sick? Or is there a whole load more illness around this winter than ever before? Either way, it’s fecking nuts.
Yep, seems like everyone is sick at the moment. I'm down with some kind of headsnot throatfungus disease (technical terms) and my other half just recovered from what she made seem an almost terminal cold. Almost everyone that's working until the very end, pre xmas, also seems to have been taken mysteriously ill, though can't vouch for the legitimacy of those bugs.
 
Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

It’s actually quite funny. I don’t think I know a single person who hasn’t been struck down at least once over the last month. Literally half of my daughter’s class were all out at once. Her school lost so many teachers they had to get parents to help as there’s not a single substitute teacher available in the whole county.

I was supposed to go to three pre-Christmas drinks over the last week. All cancelled when the host got sick (kind of pleased about this)

I wonder if in previous years we were more likely to crack on and get on with things despite being sick? Or is there a whole load more illness around this winter than ever before? Either way, it’s fecking nuts.

All five in my household currently down with the vomiting big thing (Norovirus?).
 
Not sure what it's like on a national level but there are more influenza A +ve patients isolating in our hospital wards than covid patients right now.
 
Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

It’s actually quite funny. I don’t think I know a single person who hasn’t been struck down at least once over the last month. Literally half of my daughter’s class were all out at once. Her school lost so many teachers they had to get parents to help as there’s not a single substitute teacher available in the whole county.

I was supposed to go to three pre-Christmas drinks over the last week. All cancelled when the host got sick (kind of pleased about this)

I wonder if in previous years we were more likely to crack on and get on with things despite being sick? Or is there a whole load more illness around this winter than ever before? Either way, it’s fecking nuts.

I’ve been ill constantly since about early November. Had a cough I couldn’t shake for about a month, then the vomiting thing, and now I’ve got a fluey cold thing. Doesn’t help that I’ve got a child newly in Nursery who keeps relentlessly brining home this shit, but still, I’m pretty sure this is the longest I’ve ever been ill..

Maybe fact that I wasn’t Ill at all for the previous two years (apart from a bout of Covid) is possibly responsible for my immune system being in a weird state of confusion?
 
I’ve been ill constantly since about early November. Had a cough I couldn’t shake for about a month, then the vomiting thing, and now I’ve got a fluey cold thing. Doesn’t help that I’ve got a child newly in Nursery who keeps relentlessly brining home this shit, but still, I’m pretty sure this is the longest I’ve ever been ill..

Maybe fact that I wasn’t Ill at all for the previous two years (apart from a bout of Covid) is possibly responsible for my immune system being in a weird state of confusion?
Glad I'm not alone, had a regular cold in November. That never fully cleared, coughing for 2 weeks now into sinus infection. Love life.
 
After two years of isolation and careful distancing this is the winter we finally get to properly and openly catch up with all of the other viruses that have been tapping their feet patiently, hands on hips. Most of my family were down for a week with what I believe was flu. All brought home from school of course.

I just stocked up with Lidl Ginger and Ginger+Turmeric shots for a pound each. Both taste awful but they don't half do the job.
 
Since having covid I find myself every three months or so having a terrible cold. Currently have a nasty one as do most people I know in London. Cold and flu tablets out of stock everywhere.
 
Not sure what it's like on a national level but there are more influenza A +ve patients isolating in our hospital wards than covid patients right now.

Definitely more flu patients being hospitalised in Ireland than covid patients (where hospital cases seem to be mainly incidental findings)
 
Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

A mate of mine in Dublin got some sort of virus that caused him bad diarrhea so he started popping imodiums to self medicate and eventually ended up in hospital due to the fact he fainted in the street as he was (somehow) unknowingly shitting blood.

He then was released (within 4 hours) before going home and shitting tonnes of blood that night and being readmitted.

I think he had to have 4 blood transfusions in the end but he's alright now.
 
A mate of mine in Dublin got some sort of virus that caused him bad diarrhea so he started popping imodiums to self medicate and eventually ended up in hospital due to the fact he fainted in the street as he was (somehow) unknowingly shitting blood.

He then was released (within 4 hours) before going home and shitting tonnes of blood that night and being readmitted.

I think he had to have 4 blood transfusions in the end but he's alright now.

Im on holiday with my partners parents at the moment, would your mate mind if I told this story when we’re out for a meal later?
 
Got covid last week and lots of other people I know also got it, is there anyone on here that has Ulcerative Colitis and noticed a change in their condition since getting covid?

I'm pretty sure I'm having a flare up because of it, since I'm having issues I haven't had in a long time and the only thing I can think of that has changed is getting covid.

Is that a known issue?
 
Im on holiday with my partners parents at the moment, would your mate mind if I told this story when we’re out for a meal later?

:lol: he says he has some pictures that look like the elevator scene from "The Shining" so if you need visual aids then I'll get him to pass them on!

How a grown man passes pints of blood (to the extent of passing out in the street) I don't know but he's on the mend now.
 
Had caught covid start of November least offensive cold I can remember. Just got back on my feet after the flu. Three days in bed and ruined my birthday as well.


Eldest son's household have been through the wringer one thing after another since start of November which is hard to cope with, with two under fives.

Youngest son currently laid flat out with the flu he says I gave him.


I expect, post the Christmas get togethers, this is going to get wild.
 
:lol: he says he has some pictures that look like the elevator scene from "The Shining" so if you need visual aids then I'll get him to pass them on!

How a grown man passes pints of blood (to the extent of passing out in the street) I don't know but he's on the mend now.
I had a colonoscopy a few years ago and to cut a story short, I was passing blood so went to A&E. Student doctor said you’re grand you can go home. I said would it not be better to wait and see what happens next time I go to the loo. She reluctantly agreed. So i popped off to the loo in A&E, shat a bowl full of blood and passed out on the toilet seat. Woken by nurses getting me off the toilet seat and onto a stretcher :lol:
 
Since having covid I find myself every three months or so having a terrible cold. Currently have a nasty one as do most people I know in London. Cold and flu tablets out of stock everywhere.

Felt like I was getting better yesterday and now I’ve woke up feeling fecking awful. Feel nauseous constantly, my head feels heavy as heck and it feels like I can barely move my body.
 
Meanwhile China, having had a policy of zero covid and mass lockdowns only a month ago have moved directly to advice that suggests they'd like everyone (or at any rate, at least 60% of the population) to get infected in the next few weeks.

They've more or less stopped testing for covid unless the test is needed for a hospital clinical decision. They've advised people who feel ill with COVID symptoms but who can go to work, to go to work.

Now they've explained that COVID deaths are to be defined as only those deaths caused primarily by COVID pneumonia (which is less frequent with Omicron than with previous variants). That basically rules out deaths at home, and deaths among people with pre-existing conditions - which in practice, given the scope of the definitions, will be anyone over 70 and all the most vulnerable under that age.

It's not surprising then that China is still reporting daily covid deaths in single figures.

Hopefully their belated attempts to vaccinate their over 80s will have come in time to save some lives - but we may never know for sure. Incidentally, their under 60s who are at the lowest risk from COVID have high vaccination rates, and have had for a while.
 
Meanwhile China, having had a policy of zero covid and mass lockdowns only a month ago have moved directly to advice that suggests they'd like everyone (or at any rate, at least 60% of the population) to get infected in the next few weeks.

They've more or less stopped testing for covid unless the test is needed for a hospital clinical decision. They've advised people who feel ill with COVID symptoms but who can go to work, to go to work.

Now they've explained that COVID deaths are to be defined as only those deaths caused primarily by COVID pneumonia (which is less frequent with Omicron than with previous variants). That basically rules out deaths at home, and deaths among people with pre-existing conditions - which in practice, given the scope of the definitions, will be anyone over 70 and all the most vulnerable under that age.

It's not surprising then that China is still reporting daily covid deaths in single figures.

Hopefully their belated attempts to vaccinate their over 80s will have come in time to save some lives - but we may never know for sure. Incidentally, their under 60s who are at the lowest risk from COVID have high vaccination rates, and have had for a while.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china...ove-5000-per-day-uk-research-firm-2022-12-22/

I think there’s something very sinister about the way the Chinese Government just opened everything and told everyone “ok just get on”, it’s almost like they are punishing the people who protested covid zero, as we’ve seen reopening has to be done in stages. Surely the Chinese Government knew this.
 
For flu, maybe. Which seems to be making people a hell of a lot sicker than covid.

Since 2009 I haven't had a severe flu presumably due to getting vaccinated every year but Covid knocked the crap out of me despite having 4 shots - nothing like seriously enough to be hospitalised with no lung involvement - just bad flu like symptoms with the utter exhaustion lasting for about 3 weeks. My wife who kindly shared it with me was similar if not quite as bad. My much younger neighbour had it recently as well and only found out that he had it by testing positive - he had it before and was only testing because his wife and baby had it for the first time. So it is obviously highly variable depending on things like age, vaccination, previous infection etc etc. Which isn't at all surprising.

We seem to have about 40/50 people hospitalised at any one time with daily infections peaking at about 25k.
 
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Covid or no-covid, is everyone else finding everyone they know absolutely fecking decimated by assorted lurgies this winter? Or is it mainly a Dublin thing?

It’s actually quite funny. I don’t think I know a single person who hasn’t been struck down at least once over the last month. Literally half of my daughter’s class were all out at once. Her school lost so many teachers they had to get parents to help as there’s not a single substitute teacher available in the whole county.

I was supposed to go to three pre-Christmas drinks over the last week. All cancelled when the host got sick (kind of pleased about this)

I wonder if in previous years we were more likely to crack on and get on with things despite being sick? Or is there a whole load more illness around this winter than ever before? Either way, it’s fecking nuts.

2 colleagues have 2 young kids each, and all of the kids have got ill multiple times since September. Latest was flu.
 
Me and my son (aged 4) tested positive for covid today - I'm pretty much fine but he's in bed with a high temperature, lethargic etc.... Fingers crossed it all passes for him soon. We've also a newborn in the house but he seems fine.

Now, my wife was planning to have her sister and a friend round for dinner this evening and wait for this- I'm getting hassle because this has ruined their plans and that I basically shouldn't have bothered testing.... Her sister is also a healthcare worker and it's most likely in their house too but they aren't testing because they don't want it to disrupt any Christmas plans....

Great start to the holidays round here
 
Now, my wife was planning to have her sister and a friend round for dinner this evening and wait for this- I'm getting hassle because this has ruined their plans and that I basically shouldn't have bothered testing.... Her sister is also a healthcare worker and it's most likely in their house too but they aren't testing because they don't want it to disrupt any Christmas plans....

You were 100% in the right IMO mate and fair play to you for not burying your head in the sand.

Hope you and the young fella feel better soon.
 
Had that cold/flu illness with a mad cough for a few days...keep getting random coughing fits that are pretty violent, but thankfully, and slowly, I'm getting better.

Since
 
Me and my son (aged 4) tested positive for covid today - I'm pretty much fine but he's in bed with a high temperature, lethargic etc.... Fingers crossed it all passes for him soon. We've also a newborn in the house but he seems fine.

Now, my wife was planning to have her sister and a friend round for dinner this evening and wait for this- I'm getting hassle because this has ruined their plans and that I basically shouldn't have bothered testing.... Her sister is also a healthcare worker and it's most likely in their house too but they aren't testing because they don't want it to disrupt any Christmas plans....

Great start to the holidays round here
You’ve done the right thing
 
Italy has become the first country in Europe to make it obligatory for people arriving from China to be tested for Covid-19 following Beijing moving to reopen its borders after lifting some of its toughest anti-Covid restrictions.

Italy has already been monitoring swab tests at Rome’s Fiumicino airport and Milan’s Malpensa airport, where on Monday one in two passengers arriving on flights from China who undertook non-mandatory tests were found to be positive for coronavirus.

The WHO director general, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, has called on China to share data and conduct relevant studies to help the world understand which Covid variants are circulating. Dwyer said data was crucial because in countries where Covid-19 is out of control, the sheer number of people infected makes it more likely that there will be a rare event that leads to changes in the virus, potentially creating a new variant of concern.

Prolonged lockdowns in China also mean a significant proportion of the population have not been infected with newer variants, and the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines China has relied on appear less effective than mRNA vaccines used elsewhere.

“That is the environment where you’d expect new variants to appear,” Dwyer said. “So therefore monitoring people returning from China who are sick is going to be important. We don’t know … whether those variants [in China] are any different to what we’ve seen elsewhere.”

China’s decision to resume issuing passports for the first time in almost three years could allow large numbers of Chinese tourists to travel abroad for next month’s lunar new year holiday. Travel services companies Trip.com and Qunar said international ticket bookings and searches for visa information on their websites rose five to eight times after Tuesday’s announcement, with top destinations including Japan, Thailand, South Korea, the United States, Britain and Australia.

What could possibly go wrong?
 
Does it even matter when Europe is already saturated with the virus?

I don’t think so.

Although I presume the concerns are because all the variants running amok in Europe share the same omicron ancestry, so none of them are particularly nasty. We haven’t a fecking clue which variant is the main driver in China and if it’s from a different, earlier lineage it could spin off variants which are a lot more dangerous.

My uneducated guess is that this is very unlikely but you can see why everyone is a bit nervous
 
Lots of groups reporting deaths are likely in the 1000s per day. Could this be a new variant ?
 
Which groups?
A British group modelled 5000 daily estimate (I know modelling has its flaws), Bloomberg reports around 2000 daily (not sure what source they use).

My opinion is that deaths are definitely higher than the Chinese Gov are reporting, apparently they are not counting people who died and had pre existing conditions. So someone with diabetes who gets covid and dies a few days or weeks later the cause of death gets marked as “diabetes”.

But as we know the overwhelming majority of covid deaths are those with pre existing conditions.
 
Tested positive on the Thursday before Christmas, and basically missed everything becasue of it.

Interestingly (for me at least), that I hadn't been ill since early in the February before it all kicked off in 2020, and have had virtually exactly the same symptoms as I did then.
 
I don’t think so.

Although I presume the concerns are because all the variants running amok in Europe share the same omicron ancestry, so none of them are particularly nasty. We haven’t a fecking clue which variant is the main driver in China and if it’s from a different, earlier lineage it could spin off variants which are a lot more dangerous.

My uneducated guess is that this is very unlikely but you can see why everyone is a bit nervous

This article says China's covid surge is due to a Omicron sub-varient.

https://www.livemint.com/science/he...toms-to-watch-out-for/amp-11672046682327.html
 
I don’t think so.

Although I presume the concerns are because all the variants running amok in Europe share the same omicron ancestry, so none of them are particularly nasty. We haven’t a fecking clue which variant is the main driver in China and if it’s from a different, earlier lineage it could spin off variants which are a lot more dangerous.

My uneducated guess is that this is very unlikely but you can see why everyone is a bit nervous
My boss, from India was telling me this morning that India are probably gonna go harsh on Chinese tourists too but they it was because it’s said that there is a new variant and also India haven’t done well with boosters