What kind of point is that, no one said that a club offered 75m for Ramos.
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What kind of point is that, no one said that a club offered 75m for Ramos.
Did you skip the entire last page of this thread?
It's already been explained several times that the figure (invented by AS) is 75m euros inclusive of DDG and Ramos' potential wages.
He plays as a LCB, just like Otamendi
Ah, fair enough.
Sorry, I forgot to tell you that the 70m-75m represent the transfer + Ramos wage over 5 years.
Neville is a muppet too 
ITS NOT YOUR MONEY NEVILLE.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
That's incorrect. As per Cadena Cope: 75m is mentioned as the transfer fee which includes 40m Cash + De Gea, who is valued at 35m. The wages are a separate 55m Euros.
"Invented", by whatever source, is correct. Though, that is all we have right now.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/449869/Sergio-Ramos-Manchester-United-transfer-news
Don't know how much truth in this but Real want £20m + De Gea for Ramos after having valued Ramos at £40m. Woody playing hardball and wants a straight swap! If this is true, I am so glad we have someone like Woody who is not getting bogged down and going toe to toe with Real
Don't know how much truth in this but Real want £20m + De Gea for Ramos after having valued Ramos at £40m. Woody playing hardball and wants a straight swap! If this is true, I am so glad we have someone like Woody who is not getting bogged down and going toe to toe with Real
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/449869/Sergio-Ramos-Manchester-United-transfer-news
Don't know how much truth in this but Real want £20m + De Gea for Ramos after having valued Ramos at £40m. Woody playing hardball and wants a straight swap! If this is true, I am so glad we have someone like Woody who is not getting bogged down and going toe to toe with Real
It's the daily star so it's probably a lot of nonsense, but when you take into account the fact De Gea only has a year left, and wants to go, then 20m + Dave probably isn't the worst deal in the world.
Smelly bad
20mil or 25 on top. Couldn't give a shit. I'd be delighted if we signed him.
If there's any truth to this then we're feckin nuts.
Someone should tell Woody that the unlimited funds cheat on Football Manager doesn't apply here.
Someone should tell Woody that the unlimited funds cheat on Football Manager doesn't apply here.
30m isn't too much for Ramos, the interesting part is that like @Insanity pointed out Madrid magically value De Gea at 40m-45m in a swap deal but were apparently only willing to pay 18m-20m without the swap deal, they are taking their fans for idiots.
Is no one worried that he as the worst record for sendings off in La Liga. Can just imagine the amount of winding up he'll get in the PL.
Maybe somewhere it got lost in translation but it's supposed to be De Gea's value plus £20-25m works out at €75 value for Ramos. Not De Gea + €75.
if anyone really believe this would be 75m + ddg in exchange of the signature of ramos then he must be insane. neville should keep his mouth shut if he cannot make the numbers straigth
i would say the transfer value of ramos and ddg is par, despite it could be anywhere 10m+/- either side with 15 top. just depends who is more desperate to wrap up the deal
this has been reported one barca candidate was offered to sign ramos! so i see this real madrid has now tried to shift the blame to ramos for his betrayal. maybe some of our madrid pals here can explain more to us
maybe it ends up perez has to sanction to let go one of benzema or varane to close out the deal. anyway we are now being in a driving seat to watch out the big drama carried out in madrid. enjoy the show
i would say the transfer value of ramos and ddg is par, despite it could be anywhere 10m+/- either side with 15 top. just depends who is more desperate to wrap up the deal
this has been reported one barca candidate was offered to sign ramos! so i see this real madrid has now tried to shift the blame to ramos for his betrayal. maybe some of our madrid pals here can explain more to us
maybe it ends up perez has to sanction to let go one of benzema or varane to close out the deal. anyway we are now being in a driving seat to watch out the big drama carried out in madrid. enjoy the show
The refereeing is different, in England he wouldn't have half of the cards he registered.
Where have you read €30m for Ramos? It's €30m + one of the best keepers in the world, which has been valued at a total of €75m (€45m for De Gea).
Obviously right now we wouldn't get €45m for De Gea so we'll have to see what happens.
That's what I meant, 30m+ De Gea isn't too much, since De Gea is free next season and seems to only want to join Madrid.
I suppose but that's a total of about €55 - €65 million, assuming if we sold De Gea as its own transaction we'd get €25-€35m for him.
That's too much in my opinion.
I don't think we would, for the simple reason that Madrid are the only buyer, they will pay what they want to pay or they will wait for next summer. If it was possible to involved an other club, then we would get a lot more. And for Ramos price is around 35m£, in my opinion. I would prefer Otamendi though.
Now this swap deal is more likely pure fantasy and Ramos is going nowhere.
We could easily get £20m for De Gea this summer. That's almost €30m.
Only if Madrid want to pay that.
Well considering they reportedly bid £13m (c€18m) and we laughed in their faces, I think €25m at least is easily achievable.
While I agree that it's plausible, I don't think that it will be 'easy'. If Casillas find a club the story will be different, though.
I think Madrid want De Gea regardless of whether Casillas stays or not. Also, we have Valdes and Lindegaard, so we can take it to the last day of the window if we want, or until we get a good price for Dave!
Who knows, though. For all we know Dave will come out next week and say he doesn't know where the Real rumours are coming from, he loves it in Manchester, and he's dumped Edurne for Juan.
Yeah haha, let the club spend 200 mil then!
Can't understand those ppl (not you obviously) who come up with that. Then why bother with anything? Debt, what we get for players and all that? Actually this way it's not my club either as I don't own anything of it, then why bother at all with United?
Our debt is still relatively high and despite all the money we are making our costs are similarly high. We have also taken the new spending thing to an entirely different level with stuff like paying more than a player's release clause, paying Nani's full wages while seeing him perform for another team having extended his contract already in 2013, paying 60 mil to RM for a player who wasn't needed there anyway and so on. And still ppl want us to continue like that. In a few years before we start realising it we will be in huge trouble if we don't start being more careful!
I post you a list of like 25 stats and you then come up with this reply?
The point is, it's not our job as fans to do the accounting. Woodie knows what he is working with, so whether he spends 100 quid or 100 million is his problem
Fans getting worked up over transfer fees is pointless but also symptomatic of people playing too many football simulators!
Not really. If in the end the difference is minimal to get a quality player, no problem. But if it needs a ridiculous fee or wages every time we get a player, then that's not a sign of a well run club. And that's also not a sign of a successful team, you can't have a long term good working club and team when in the end almost everyone is on 200 + k and cost a fortune in fee to convince him to join us / force the selling club to let go the player.
Why is it unlikely he'll be able to stay?
Can not see this happening, he's using us to get an improved contract.
Playing games with Ramos won't be anywhere as easy as with Özil or Di Maria. The latter two are rather shy, confidence players and not Spanish.
Ramos on the other hand is a Madrid and Spain legend, a smart and confident guy, knows RM and Spanish football/ppl/media inside out and has lots of contacts and influence in the media as well.
In this saga most probably Ramos and not Perez will be the winner.
Ramos on the other hand is a Madrid and Spain legend, a smart and confident guy, knows RM and Spanish football/ppl/media inside out and has lots of contacts and influence in the media as well.
In this saga most probably Ramos and not Perez will be the winner.
And this would result in?
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