Shinji Kagawa | Signs for Manchester United

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Ekeke said:
Eh, Valencia can barely speak a word of English despite being over here so long. You wouldnt know it by the way he plays with his team mates on the pitch.

Other players get cited for it, he doesnt. But he does show that its not 100% needed to be a success in this league even if it would be better. Who knows, maybe Kagawa and Valencia can take some Engrish lessons together.
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Oh I wasn't saying it would be a deal breaker or anything, you can get one with it (and if Parks Japanese is good then that is a big help), just it would help if he didn't need an interpreter where ever he goes.


And an Ecuadorian and Japanese person getting English lessons together :lol: that would confuse matters
 
Yeah and I agree, it would be great if all our players having spent a year or two in England, would learn English. I just dont understand why people are only bringing it up with regards to certain players and not all players across the board.

I can remember the discussion with Tevez, and I agreed with everyone else that he needed to stop being lazy and learn the language. But then there are other players here and they dont speak English and nobody says anything. Then we're going in for a new player and he doesnt speak English and its brought up again.
 
Dion said:
I had 2 hour French lessons 4 times a week from the time I was 6 until I left secondary school at 16, I even managed an A at GCSE. I can now say hello, socks, horse and count to 5 (as long as it's in song form). I'm an extreme example obviously but lessons don't mean you can speak the language.
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:lol: I've an A in French GCSE too... I cannot remember how to say socks or horse, but can count to 10, and quite good at reading menus, wine lists and ordering food. :)

Also, "Parlez vous Anglais?" is always useful.
 
Pexbo said:
I think I'll be more upset if we don't get Kagawa to be honest.
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He's exactly the sort of player that will go elsewhere for, say, £10m, and be an absolutely top drawer signing.
 
To those asking what the possible hold up on this deal being completed is that he is probably waiting to finish his International Friendlies which btw wrap up on the 12 of June..

3 - Oman
8 - Jordan
12 - Australia
 
Looks very impressive. I agree, Edmeiste, the player wants to come here. Wrap this deal up.
 


This is the best vid that I've found.

Not only Kagawa, but what a great year of football for Borussia Dortmund and what a great set of fans they have.
 
Chirag said:
To those asking what the possible hold up on this deal being completed is that he is probably waiting to finish his International Friendlies which btw wrap up on the 12 of June..

3 - Oman
8 - Jordan
12 - Australia
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Those are WC qualifiers, not friendlies.
 
would be an excellent addition to our team, no doubt about that.

his ball controlling ability is top draw, pretty quick with the ball, got an eye for a pass, and gets into good goalscoring position as well.

if we pay dortmund around 15million pound then i say it is worth it.
 
Get the feeling this deal was done and dusted long ago....based on the fact there's been no new news coming out on teams interested etc.
 
I feel like its not only the imagination he shows when it comes to the final ball, but the way he puts it right in the attackers stride that's so effective. Watch that pass to Lewandowski in the cup final against Bayern, its placed perfectly so that the striker doesn't have to break his stride or stretch for it.

I'm a bit high atm though, so I may just be seeing things.
 
Bebe said:
I feel like its not only the imagination he shows when it comes to the final ball, but the way he puts it right in the attackers stride that's so effective. Watch that pass to Lewandowski in the cup final against Bayern, its placed perfectly so that the striker doesn't have to break his stride or stretch for it.

I'm a bit high atm though, so I may just be seeing things.
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:lol:
 
Freak said:
I like him, but he's not exactly what we've been lacking. We've been lacking a more deeper playmaker and destroyer in midfield rather than an attacking one.
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i agree and have been saying as much since last summer, but what we need more than anything at this stage is some extra quality. I would take that every time over nothing.

Tbh i felt SAF should have been looking at a more defensive player when he was targeting the likes of Modric, Sneijder etc last year, but he doesn't seem that interested in buying one. So buying top quality players for other positions is still an improvement going into next season.
 
Aye, he's definitely not what we are lacking, neither is Hazard, which is why I'm a little surprised about these transfers, surely first priority should be a Martinez, or more realistically a M'Vila, even a Modric. Someone who can fecking sit deep, interrupt play and pass the ball well, is that so much to ask given the state of our midfield?

But still, I would happily take Kagawa, though the transfer fee basically doubling doesn't help.
 
Cina said:
Aye, he's definitely not what we are lacking, neither is Hazard, which is why I'm a little surprised about these transfers, surely first priority should be a Martinez, or more realistically a M'Vila, even a Modric. Someone who can fecking sit deep, interrupt play and pass the ball well, is that so much to ask given the state of our midfield?

But still, I would happily take Kagawa, though the transfer fee basically doubling doesn't help.
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Im very agreeable this morning for a Monday! :D But i can't argue any of that, it is totally baffling to me that with massive doubts still over Fletcher, it leaves us again with only Carrick for anyone effective in that role.

I keep thinking surely SAf can see where we are weakest, but as i have said i could not believe he did not buy for that position last summer, instead of looking at AM's. Unfortunately the loss of the title and a disastrous European campaign has apparently done little to change his view on what we need. Im struggling to see the logic myself, but i think we all agree an influx of top quality can only be of benefit, so we may have to content ourselves with that for now. Some improvement is always preferable to none at all!
 
Ferguson said:


This is the best vid that I've found.

Not only Kagawa, but what a great year of football for Borussia Dortmund and what a great set of fans they have.
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They do play some pretty football for a german side. I can see why Wenger wants to buy Goetze and is rumoured to be interested in Kagawa too. They need those kinds of players to go back to playing their old way of passing football.

Obviously I hope we get Kagawa though. He is a top player and if he wasn't Japanese he probably would be rated a bit higher.
 
Cina said:
Aye, he's definitely not what we are lacking, neither is Hazard, which is why I'm a little surprised about these transfers, surely first priority should be a Martinez, or more realistically a M'Vila, even a Modric. Someone who can fecking sit deep, interrupt play and pass the ball well, is that so much to ask given the state of our midfield?

But still, I would happily take Kagawa, though the transfer fee basically doubling doesn't help.
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If Fletch doesn't return to his former best then we need both type of players. Modric is a different type of player to M'Vila though.
 
devilish said:
If Fletch doesn't return to his former best then we need both type of players. Modric is a different type of player to M'Vila though.
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Honestly i don't hold much hope of that. It is still debatable whether he will come back at all. I hope we don't get caught in another Hargreaves scenario, where we are almost permanently short of a player, yet cannot strengthen because we are constantly waiting to see if the injured player can come back or not.

We did it for 3 years with Hargo, only to be disappointed in the end. I think you have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, rather than not prepareing and simply hoping for the best. We did that last year in many ways and only the return of Scholes and a lengthy spell free from injury for Carrick that kept us in the league for so long.

Had Carrick been injured and Scholes not come back, then god knows how we would have coped. Hopefully SAF will not leave us in a similarly precarious position again this year.
 
Ferguson said:


This is the best vid that I've found.

Not only Kagawa, but what a great year of football for Borussia Dortmund and what a great set of fans they have.
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I knew he was a good finisher but jeez hes alot more clinical than i thought :eek: Definitely more of a second striker than a midfielder, but he really does look great, his first touch / movement off the ball and finishing is excellent.

Really do hope we pull this off, would be an excellent addition to our team.
 
devilish said:
If Fletch doesn't return to his former best then we need both type of players. Modric is a different type of player to M'Vila though.
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To an extent he is but Modric would still compliment Carrick well in a deep role. He may not look strong but he's more than capable of being dogged and winning the ball.

I'm just not sure I see the point of having Kagawa if we haven't players behind him capable of linking up with him and winning the ball to do so.
 
It's certainly not a priority but we've seen through the selection of Giggs (despite poor form) that Sir Alex judges the need for a penetrative ball quite highly. Teams that defend deep have caused us problems in the last few seasons as we usually just end up slowly passing it across the box without any intent. It does make me question Cleverley's role though.
 
Ferguson said:


This is the best vid that I've found.

Not only Kagawa, but what a great year of football for Borussia Dortmund and what a great set of fans they have.
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Cheers, nice video.

What a goal that is at 13:12. :eek: Proper FIFA goal - great build up and a fantastic pass from Kagawa.
 
Cina said:
To an extent he is but Modric would still compliment Carrick well in a deep role. He may not look strong but he's more than capable of being dogged and winning the ball.

I'm just not sure I see the point of having Kagawa if we haven't players behind him capable of linking up with him and winning the ball to do so.
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Modric would compliment carrick but he cannot cover/compete with him for a first team place. Mvilla can
 
Think i'll stick with this transfer.The fallout from the Hazard thread is going to be brutal.
 
I imagine this will get confirmed tomorrow, or whenever Hazard to Chelsea is made official. We were clearly waiting for the outcome of that before we solidified our interest in Kagawa.

What would be a right kick in the balls is if, because we arsed about delaying things to see how Hazard would turn out, he ends up going to Arsenal.
 
If it is true that Kagawa was our back up for Hazard, I wouldn't be too confident that he'll sign here. Once he's finished with Japan then he could talk with other clubs, if he hasn't already. Unless we were signing him as well as Hazard and there was a genuine reason this hasn't been sewn up yet.
 
this has been quiet just the way we do business, the Hazard shenanigans had city/chelsea written all over them, no way would we allow all that nonsense.
 
This does have all the hallmarks of how we operate, which is a stark contrast to the Hazard affair which has been about as public and ridiculous as you can get. I'm happy if that's the case, he has a lot to offer us.
 
I've said it a good few times, but I'd prefer Kagawa over Hazard. I'd be chuffed if this went through soon, and then we started searching for a CM:devil:
 
BD94 said:
I've said it a good few times, but I'd prefer Kagawa over Hazard. I'd be chuffed if this went through soon, and then we started searching for a CM:devil:
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I can see the potential of Hazard but I have to agree I would be more disappointed if we failed to sign Kagawa, he seems like a United type player.

Not that it should matter but signing a Japanese player has massive benefits for the club in Asia. I don't think Chelsea cornering the Belgian market is really anything to write home about:lol:
 
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