Shinji Kagawa | Signs for Manchester United

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kelvinkato77 said:
As a bonus, we are signing a player not involved with the Euros. I think that quite a bit of the future muppetry on the Caf will depend on the Euros. (Injuries, performance, etc..)

Will be nice to have this one done early.

Edit: No Olympics either for him.
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Why not? I just searched around, and he seemed to be declaring himself available for selection only a few months ago?
 
Maajid said:
Why not? I just searched around, and he seemed to be declaring himself available for selection only a few months ago?
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My mistake. He more than likely will play. In a quick google prior, I didn't think Japan were playing. (don't follow too closely the football in the Olympics)

Though, he didn't play the qualifiers.
 
Top said:
Very excited about us signing this lad, will be interesting to see how we intend on using him and how quickly he adapt.

Oh how I'd love it if he becomes a bigger success than Eden Hazard.
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I believe he will be key to our attack next season. I find myself very excited about this signing, having seen the lad play for the last couple of seasons due to ESPN showing a lot of Bundesliga games, I can safely say he has a lot to his game. Hard worker as well, which Fergie undoubtedly looks for when signing players.

This lad already has a winner's mentality, I think he will fit in alright here.
 
Some people still think that the Bundelisga is some sort of replica and standard like the Uzbekistan league or something. It's a tough league to win and play in, and Kagawa has handled it very well and was a major part of a team that won back to back titles
 
SATA said:
Some people still think that the Bundelisga is some sort of replica and standard like the Uzbekistan league or something. It's a tough league to win and play in, and Kagawa has handled it very well and was a major part of a team that won back to back titles
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On top of that Ba and Cissé both played in the Bundesliga and looked like they had no problem at all adapting to the PL.

The main reason why so many people don't rate the Bundesliga is usually down to the fact that there is only one really big team that has been on constantly on top for the last decades with Bayern Munich.

Challangers came and went but no one could really establish themselves as a second internationally recognized force.
 
SATA said:
Some people still think that the Bundelisga is some sort of replica and standard like the Uzbekistan league or something. It's a tough league to win and play in, and Kagawa has handled it very well and was a major part of a team that won back to back titles
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That's being far too kind to the standard of uzbekistanI football
 
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...-kagawa-deal-not-about-selling-shirts?cc=5901

Manchester United commercial director Richard Arnold insists the club are not looking to sign Japan playmaker Shinji Kagawa simply to sell shirts.

Kagawa is reportedly close to moving from Bundesliga champions Borussia Dortmund to Old Trafford on a €15 million transfer, which could rise to €22 million with add-ons. Dortmund chief executive Hans-Joachim Watzke fuelled speculation further on Tuesday evening, telling Derwesten: "Both sides want to conclude the deal."

Meanwhile, United's South Korean midfielder Park Ji-Sung may exit the club this summer, sparking talk the club are looking to the sign Kagawa to boost brand recognition throughout Asia. Arnold, though, believes United's individual players do not drive the club's off-field profitability.

"We don't sign players to sell shirts." Arnold said. "We are reliant on 25 players and they are all massive stars. We have 25 George Clooneys.

"When you look at the success we've seen in that part of the world [Asia], it isn't down to any one player or person. Of course, Ji is a fantastic player, was captain of the South Korea team and continues to be a key part of our squad.

"But for Manchester United, it's more than any one player. It was more than George Best, it was more than Bryan Robson, it was more than David Beckham, it was more than Cantona, than Park.

"Ji is very popular in Korea, just as Javier Hernandez is hugely popular in Mexico, but Paul Scholes has his own Chinese character. These are huge stars and the big stars are the big stars in every country. Our games are shown 1.1 billion homes across the globe and you think 'which film does that 60 times a year?'

"Be it George Clooney or Brad Pitt, what is there where that is shown? There just isn't anything like it."
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Anyone know where he plays for the Japanese national team? I'd guess in the typical #10 position like at Dortmund, just interested if he ever plays wide in a front 3 for them.
 
Jaap said:
In Dortmund's 4-2-3-1 formation, Kagawa plays just off lone-striker Robert Lewandowski. I seem to think though, sometimes, it looks - from his positioning -, he's a second striker.

His strengths are his great close-control and his technique. Until today, I haven't found out whether he's a right or left-footer, seems to do very well with both feet. Kagawa creates and scores, as shown in his statistics - 21 goals in 48 matches.

His understanding and use of space is superb, he's very intelligent and his off-the-ball movement is fine too.

I think it'd be too easy to define him as a #10 or a second striker - he's very versatile, does tend to drift out wide, although he hardly crosses the ball into the box, but does go inside. Not only a very fine player on the ball, he's also a hard-worker off the ball, who works tirelessly to win the ball back once it's lost.

In my opinion, he's class, has the potential to even take his game up a notch and - if used rightly - will be very good addition to our team. Not too sure though, where exactly he will be used. Behind Rooney as secondary striker, out wide or even in a two-man midfield? He'll make us more versatile, which is good - especially in Europe with a 4-5-1 in mind - he can play INSTEAD of Rooney with Hernandez and Welbeck up front. Because, let's be honest, without Rooney, this team has looked hopeless and toothless in the attacking third. I, for one, am excited if we get him, very excited.
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Thanks
 
You are Kagawa,
my Kagawa,
You make me happy,
when skies are grey,
Oh Eden Hazard,
he just love twitter,
please don't take,
my Kagawa away!
 
Thats horrible.
For starters, my Shinji would work better than Kagawa.. Even then, it sucks.
 
I definitely see the resemblance. ;)

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Jaap said:
In Dortmund's 4-2-3-1 formation, Kagawa plays just off lone-striker Robert Lewandowski. I seem to think though, sometimes, it looks - from his positioning -, he's a second striker.

His strengths are his great close-control and his technique. Until today, I haven't found out whether he's a right or left-footer, seems to do very well with both feet. Kagawa creates and scores, as shown in his statistics - 21 goals in 48 matches.

His understanding and use of space is superb, he's very intelligent and his off-the-ball movement is fine too.

I think it'd be too easy to define him as a #10 or a second striker - he's very versatile, does tend to drift out wide, although he hardly crosses the ball into the box, but does go inside. Not only a very fine player on the ball, he's also a hard-worker off the ball, who works tirelessly to win the ball back once it's lost.

In my opinion, he's class, has the potential to even take his game up a notch and - if used rightly - will be very good addition to our team. Not too sure though, where exactly he will be used. Behind Rooney as secondary striker, out wide or even in a two-man midfield? He'll make us more versatile, which is good - especially in Europe with a 4-5-1 in mind - he can play INSTEAD of Rooney with Hernandez and Welbeck up front. Because, let's be honest, without Rooney, this team has looked hopeless and toothless in the attacking third. I, for one, am excited if we get him, very excited.
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Thanks. The bolded bit is a very good point. Many seem concerned about Rooney moving up and displacing Welbeck. I see it more as us being able to do away with Rooney if needed (injury/suspension/benched for partying/form), which is the main weakness I think we had in attack.

Interesting you mention the two-man midfield. Could he do a job there? I'm thinking about Scholes-dependency in this case...

Over to central midfield and LB and we are sorted.
 
Apologies if this has been posted. From Bild --

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Translation from the article:

"So what are the key points: The master collects about 15 million euros as a fixed transfer fee. There are also performance-related payments. England's win record holder, for example, with a title Kagawa, can collect on the BVB PAGE information in the best case, even up to 20 million €."

Which is less than the €22m reported by Kicker.
 
Good move on our part. We're getting a very good player for a decent price, who actually wants to play for us. He could end up staying 7-10 years such as the likes of Evra, Park, and Vidic.
 
Sorry if this has been mentioned too, but this is a quote from the Daily Mail today:

United have increased their original offer, despite the 23-year-old only having one year left on contract, as they recognise there is massive commercial potential in signing the Japan international.
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:nono: Pathetic journalism, making out the only reason we're in for him. Maybe they should get their heads buried out of the Premier Leagues arses and understand that there are talented players from all over the globe, I don't think a player with one year left on his contract being sold for around €17m-€22m is just purchased for his commercial potential.
 
gaz1185 said:
Sorry if this has been mentioned too, but this is a quote from the Daily Mail today:



:nono: Pathetic journalism, making out the only reason we're in for him. Maybe they should get their heads buried out of the Premier Leagues arses and understand that there are talented players from all over the globe, I don't think a player with one year left on his contract being sold for around €17m-€22m is just purchased for his commercial potential.
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That isnt what it says though is it?

They are just saying we are happy to go above the original offer, as they feel the rewards will be worth it.
 
Adam-Utd said:
That isnt what it says though is it?

They are just saying we are happy to go above the original offer, as they feel the rewards will be worth it.
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Nail to head

They are clearly just stating that we are willing to pay a tad more as the deal will pay for itself. We obviously rate him as a player but we will pay more than he is worth (considering only one year left) as he will be so commercially beneficial.
 
Short translation of the Bild article:

United and Dortmund are in agreement - Dortmund receive up to 20m EUR for Kagawa. Only the signatures are left now...

Dortmund and United have been negotiating for weeks now - but apparently - some minor details aside - a deal has finally been agreed. The deal looks like this: Dortmund receive approximately 15m EUR upfront, add-ons will be included as well. If United and Kagawa win (any, no specific details given) silverware, the fee may come up to 20m EUR, according to BILD sources.
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Brilliant deal for us if true :cool:
 
I assume nothing will happen officially untill after Japan's qualifier on 8th June so we'll likely have to endure another week and a half of this :nervous:
 
He's pretty amazing in FIFA and works perfectly both in 4231 and 41212 so I'll be very happy with this transfer. Whether he translates it onto the real pitch will be unimportant so long as he'll serve me in my FIFA tournaments.
 
With Sarni taking the thread to new levels, I reckon it's high time someone posted at least a link to Kagawa's FM 2012 profile.
 
Am I the only one who finds it brilliant that his youth club was FC Miyagi Barcelona?

That's quite simply the greatest club name ever.
 
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