Shinji Kagawa

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So do we actually know if he's injured or not then? Surely he's more than good enough to find a place on the bench at least if he's not?
 
Can't you wait a few minutes? If Moyes mentions he's picked up a small knock you will all look very silly.
 
Kagawa absent I can kinda understand at this stage, even if I am disappointed. But Young...for fecksake, the guy is average at best.
 
He's not fit enough to play yet, especially against Liverpool at Anfield. I guess his situation and Mata's are exactly the same.
 
He's not injured, he traveled with the squad, but he's not fit. Young is starting today - he is another who didn't have a proper pre-season, but that surely says a lot about Kagawa's lack of match fitness. It would be a big risk to start him.
 
He's not injured, he traveled with the squad, but he's not fit. Young is starting today - he is another who didn't have a proper pre-season, but that surely says a lot about Kagawa's lack of match fitness. It would be a big risk to start him.
Big fecking risk to start Young, who is shit.
 
He's not injured, he traveled with the squad, but he's not fit. Young is starting today - he is another who didn't have a proper pre-season, but that surely says a lot about Kagawa's lack of match fitness. It would be a big risk to start him.


But he's never going to get match fit then is he? the point of putting a unfit player on the bench is to get them valuable playing time later in the game. Kagawa made the bench and didn't get the time needed to improve. Considering Rooney is out im amazed he's not in the starting 11 never mind completely out of the squad, bizarre to say the least.
 
Big fecking risk to start Young, who is shit.

No, not really. Young is crucial in this type of fixture because he adds defensive stability. If you listened to what Moyes said, you would know that Kagawa was given another week off (this was said on Friday). Perspective, that's what it's called and I'm a massive Kagawa fan.
 
Again, what I said yesterday. If Moyes doesn't like him then he should let him go now.
 
Shame he's not involved again but I cant help but think that if he was impressing in training he would be in the team.
 
No, not really. Young is crucial in this type of fixture because he adds defensive stability. If you listened to what Moyes said, you would know that Kagawa was given another week off (this was said on Friday). Perspective, that's what it's called and I'm a massive Kagawa fan.
I think I probably posted in the wrong forum to be honest. I just cannot get anyone who thinks Young is a good player (I guess that includes SAF).
 
This is getting embarrassing....
What form has Giggs shown playing at Anfield? Is Moyes out of his mind? This is how we lost 2 gems in Morrison & Pogba cos we couldn't do without these old players. Liverpool are going to overpower that midfield. Giggs can't tackle & his passes are meh!
 
The reaction in here is hilarious. People calling for Moyes to "let him go" - are you folk first and foremost United fans or Kagawa fans? Are you that hurt that he has been left out that you're actually advocating we let him go to our detriment just to keep him happy?

feck me.
 
would just like to know a concrete reason as to why he has been little to not involved so far this season. Don't understand that hes not even on the bench if hes not injured..
 
'Moyes obsession of picking old players in midfield' ...

Not worthy of its own thread yet, but that said, Giggs has started pretty much every game since Moyes took over. Giggs also always gets over-run against this lot, but I suppose 'we need his experience at Anfield'. Would have thought we'd be past that now. With Nani and Hernandez back now, hopefully that will change soon.
 
Didn't realise Moyes said he gave Kagawa the week off on Friday. Presume he will start featuring then from post-internationals.
 
The reaction in here is hilarious. People calling for Moyes to "let him go" - are you folk first and foremost United fans or Kagawa fans? Are you that hurt that he has been left out that you're actually advocating we let him go to our detriment just to keep him happy?

feck me.

I'm hurt because we haven't learnt our lessons with idiotic team selection, with a bit of common sense by the manager, we should have won the last league game. We are starting another big game with one leg tied up. Why do we self-harm like a mentally-ill patient?
 
No, not really. Young is crucial in this type of fixture because he adds defensive stability. If you listened to what Moyes said, you would know that Kagawa was given another week off (this was said on Friday). Perspective, that's what it's called and I'm a massive Kagawa fan.

You are confusing impotence with defensive capability. Just because he's been shit in attack does not automatically mean he's good at defending.

Moyes is playing it as safe as possible (to his mind), which could very well feck us over. I like a bit of adventure and entertainment in my football, we were famous for that till a few years ago.
 
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