Replacing and completely upgrading.
With all due respect to Park, it's like upgrading from a Volvo V50 to a Porsche 911.
Replacing and completely upgrading.
Without wishing to offending anyone, Kagawa is in effect replacing Park (and Giggs pretty much). He is able to play off the main striker and also flexible enough to play in central midfield and out wide, all positions Fergie had hoped Park would end up suceeding in doing last season.
Replacing and completely upgrading.
Replacing from a player has always been simply a squad member to a player who can be one of our best at the club? I think it's just a bit more then replacing him.
Replacing Park with Kagawa?!
More like replacing Scholes with Kagawa ultimately.
Possibly long term. But Scholes hasn't played off a striker in the big games in years, Park/Giggs primarily were.
Possibly long term. But Scholes hasn't played off a striker in the big games in years, Park/Giggs primarily were.
I think Rooney will now be playing off the striker
I think Rooney will now be playing off the striker
They will both be in the hole. DP.
In the big games I think Kagawa will.
Yeah, I feel like in big games we may see something like this...
Carrick Anderson
Nani Kagawa Rooney
RVP
With the front four all interchanging (and the usual back 5).
Swap Nani for Valencia then thats more or less spot on. Wouldn't be surprised either to have Rooney play as far deep as where Anderson is and opt for Young/Nani on the left.
Is kagawa back from Japan?
I'm thinking myself now that Kagawa will hold more of a central role now. Obviously he'll play out on the wing sometimes and behind the striker too, and he will be the more advanced CM assuming he's mainly beside Carrick, but I don't see where else we will play him.
I think his whole body is from Japan not just the back.
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I think his whole body is from Japan not just the back.
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Same here, no contest.Buzzing to see him play in PL, more excited about it than RvP to be honest.
442
Valencia Cleverley Kagawa Nani
>>>>>>>> Rooney
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RVP
Simples!
No defensive cover from midfield. Will get raped.
Well that isn't always how football works actually, it's a far too simplistic view posted on here whenever someone puts out a side that is WAY too attack minded.
One of the best 45 mins I ever saw was United v Spurs, with Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez, Scholes on the pitch.
That team isn't ideal, but a very attack minded team does not always get raped.
Yes that was because we were down 2-0 and we were all out going for it. We needed to get a result. We won't even play that lineup from the start. And it also had to do with the fact that Tottenham buckled under pressure and just gave up.
It doesn't change my point, which is, a team full of attacking players like the one posted can win plenty of football matches. They might not get many clean sheets though.
That argument isn't exactly valid. Yeah, a team full of attacking players can win football matches, but same with a team full of defenders; but the point is it makes it harder to win those matches. Winning matches means you restrict the goals scored by your opponents, and also score more than them. Putting on a team full of attacking players makes one of those jobs more difficult, and by extension making it less likely you are going to win.
Not entirely sure what SAF is going to do with Kagawa though, but personally I'd like to see him play either as the link player behind RVP or from the left. But we don't know yet.
[CENTER]Valencia Kagawa Cleverley Nani
Rooney RVP[/CENTER]
It's totally valid.
A team with:
Code:[CENTER]Valencia Kagawa Cleverley Nani Rooney RVP[/CENTER]
would win a LOT of football matches. I don't think it's the team to go with and hasn't got great balance, but it definitely wouldn't be certain to be "raped". That's my point and it's very valid.
I think the only thing(s) you can guarantee is that it would concede and score a feckload of goals. Winning matches would be a toss-up.
But, against a decent team, it would get raped.
I think the only thing(s) you can guarantee is that it would concede and score a feckload of goals. Winning matches would be a toss-up.
But, against a decent team, it would get raped.
Nonsense, you haven't the first clue if you think that's the case. A "toss up" my arse. You make out as though Tony V, Cleverley etc don't have the first clue on how to defend. They do. And they'd also have a shiteload of posession.
Probably yeah, wouldn't disagree with that.
But against the rest... I'd fancy them.
Just as I'd fancy Barca to beat most if they took out Sergio and stuck in Cesc.
It's totally valid.
A team with:
Code:[CENTER]Valencia Kagawa Cleverley Nani Rooney RVP[/CENTER]
would win a LOT of football matches. I don't think it's the team to go with and hasn't got great balance, but it definitely wouldn't be certain to be "raped". That's my point and it's very valid.
Calm down. I'm sure they aren't clueless about defending, but that was never my point. Attacking minded players are called attacking minded players for a reason: they drift into the final third because that's where they like to be, and that's where they are most effective.
Didn't we play a similar setup against Hannover, and were getting picked off until Anderson came on and we moved Kagawa behind Rooney?
I'd fancy them too, but we'd be more likely to lose than normal.