Out wide would be cool. It's not that I don't think it's going to happen, I was just hoping it wouldn't!
Shinji Kagawa
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Out wide would be cool. It's not that I don't think it's going to happen, I was just hoping it wouldn't!
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking while watching - reminded me of the same sort of probing, rhythm and incisiveness. I was thinking players are going to have adjust to him rather than have him slow his play down otherwise he's really wasted. I hope SAF doesn't try to drop him deeper but he might have to.
I see now why many were calling for Javi Martinez, I can see how he could've addressed a lot of concerns.
He might get a few games as technically wide player but I don't think this will be his actual position when the game kicks on. Not at Manchester United. Call me mad but that's the way I see it.
Yeah, he'd be a pretend winger basically spending most of his time drifting into the hole like the rest of them. Shouldn't take too much away from his game, just makes us a little bit more reliant on Evra to provide the width and Rooney/Van Persie/Welbeck will have to pull out wide which isn't much of an issue because they're all happy doing that anyway.
Most exciting debut since Ronaldo.
Rooney's?
Curious to see how he'd do in a 3-4-1-2.
He looks good enough that opposition managers would set up defensively.
He looks good enough that opposition managers would set up defensively.
Good shout.
But thats before Ronaldo
thats excatly my thoughts, the little flicks/through balls, he played, i bet Van Persie was wishing he was on the field.
Overall Kagawa was motioning for the ball many times as was Van Persie when they came on.
Unfortunately we just kept passing to our inept wingers or Evra.
the team needs to get to his level, i bet Giggs would love to play in midfield behind him, imagine his trademark (minimum one) backheel (per game), with kagawa.
??? no
that is maybe why we need to refresh this area of the team, as kagawa playing Rooney's support striker position has done. We have become a bit stale in the middle of the park (ala Keane's final few seasons), would love a bit of freshness there. Cleverly is ok but more suited to attacking, as gibson and even Phil made him struggle defensively. Our weakness was down the midfield, Kagawa has sorted the attacking role, but we need a dembele type, there. Even Anderson showed more purpose when he came on.
Overall i really believe the best partnership in a 4411 formation will be Van Persie and Kagawa.
he played very well and even our forwards were not quick (or fit?) enough to receive his smart passes. the best formation may be 4231 while RVP played at the "1", roon in the hole and kagawa on the right with nani/young on the left
He really does have an eye for killer passes. Very composed and comfortable with the ball even in tight areas.
I didn't see the match tonight, was at work for it, where did he play exactly?
Mostly in the hole, drifted out wide plenty. I can see him becoming signing of the season, he's fantastic.
I honestly can't see why everyone is raving about Kagawa's performance. I thought he tried hard, but just wasn't on the same wavelength as the rest of the team, his one touch passing was off (countless times he tried a 1-2 with Rooney and passed it into the empty space where Rooney used to be) and he tried too many stupid flicks that didn't work.
Seems like I watched a different match then... Wasn't it Kagawa's through balls that create our only decent chances ?
The person off the wavelength was Rooney, was utter shite today... lost the ball countless of times.
Because it was clearly more of a case of everyone not being on the same wavelength as him. Our players clearly weren't used to all of those little flicks. Also he was our best attacking player. There were plenty of positives from his performance.
let down by his teammates imo. a couple of great through passes which our strikers fail to capitalise on it.
Also it didn't help 3 Everton players hunting Welbeck.
Kagawa was on another planet technical wise, compared to any one of our players. He dud pretty well in tight spaces and released the ball quickly to others, and that was where he was let down by his team mates.
Kagawa was on another planet technical wise, compared to any one of our players. He dud pretty well in tight spaces and released the ball quickly to others, and that was where he was let down by his team mates.
I'd rather see a player trying those flicks that can split defences and occassionally failing than keeping it simple all the time and creating feck all. His flicks were very good it was just that rooney was all over the place.
Well, the alternative was the 'slow, zombie passing' and death by contemplation before making a pass.
That's the thing with any creative player, a dribbler or a passer, it will not come off sometimes. But we didn't capitalize on the times when he did pull off a good pass or move.
Yeah that's a good point actually. For what it's worth, Kagawa wasn't bad, but I didn't think he was great either; no United player was. I just got slightly peeved at all the wanking over him when, in my mind, it was an average performance that stood out in a sea of rubbish.
Kagawa was much better than "average". He played very well.
I reckon Kagawa will go down as the signing of the season by the end of season. He has something a number of our team are lacking at the moment, quickness of thought. Bloody useful attribute that!!
Kagawa's going to be a great player. Was a very good debut. He was eclipsed only by Fellaini on the night from an attacking point of view (albeit different approaches).
He has a Scholesesque ability to make his team mates better players, because he always offers himself in a good position to take the return pass. I'd be interested to see the stats, but he seemed to be the hub of our play, along with Scholes.
He has a Scholesesque ability to make his team mates better players, because he always offers himself in a good position to take the return pass. I'd be interested to see the stats, but he seemed to be the hub of our play, along with Scholes.
Don't criticise Kagawa's great 1 touch play just because HeskeyRooney couldn't link up with him.
Kagawa was very bright. Unlike the rest of the side.
He and he superb Fellaini were the best players on the pitch.
Wow. And he was making a number of attacking moves as well.
He could easily play from the left similar to how the likes of Silva, Mata, Inesta etc etc play it. Granted it may not be his favourite position but that's not to say he wouldn't be very good at it.
The only problem would be that against an adventurous right back, in a game where we don't necessarily dominate posession, he could find himself going backwards a little too much.
The only problem would be that against an adventurous right back, in a game where we don't necessarily dominate posession, he could find himself going backwards a little too much.
You need to hang up your keyboard and never make any attempt to analyse and game of football ever again after the above load of bollocks. Unbelievable, Jeff.
Totally agree with that post.
He offered something that every single other attacking United player did not - penetration.
Time and again, he slid clever balls through to wasteful forwards.
He's going to make a shed load of goals in his United career.
We can only hope that SAF will be encouraged to buy more players of his ilk in the future.
He did not put a foot wrong all evening.
Don't get me started on that. We only ever created something when Kagawa found a pass through the middle; yet we kept forcing the ball out wide.
Very good. Everything that happened for us seemed to happen through him. Looked a different level to the rest of our players. Quick feet and thinking, and with a purpose to every touch. Hopefully the rest of our players will be able to adapt to get the best out of this one.
For a first game in the PL and away from home he played really well.I couldn't have asked for more
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