I think this is possible. The EU probably doesn't want Britain to leave in all honesty. The referendum isn't legally binding and there's two years of negotiations to come. It's quite possible Britain will end up remaining with a few preferential deals
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I think this is possible. The EU probably doesn't want Britain to leave in all honesty. The referendum isn't legally binding and there's two years of negotiations to come. It's quite possible Britain will end up remaining with a few preferential deals
The toys are well and truly out the pram.
When I checked the amount of signature increased with 1500 in just 1 minute, and that is in early morning. I can see this going over 1 million in a couple of hours.
Because people are fighting for their futures?
People could be rioting in the street causing havoc, but no, they're going about it in a legally, and politically correct way of trying to force the discussion of a second referendum.
One of the main mouthpieces of the leave campaign said a 48-52 split is not the end of it, and when the turnout is below 75% its entirely possible that a second referendum will need to be seriously considered.
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This can go on and on? Petition for third, then fourth...?
Awesomely silly. Do it!
Awesomely silly. Do it!
Democracy is only good when the side you want to win, wins.
We had a labour government for 13 years that was voted in by between 30 and 40% of the electorate that bothered to vote.
The Torres get in with the same % of votes, by a similar number of people all of a sudden, nobody voted for them and it's a stick to beat them with.
Its done, of it was 52-48 the other way it would be just as done.
I still think it's ridiculous for a decision this big that leave didn't have to get a 60/40 majority in order to leave. At such a small margin and with such large consequences it's simply unfair to have leave come out on top by such small numbers. The leave campaign should be convincing a whole nation, not just a select few.
What if the next referendum matches this same criteria for calling another referendum? Do we just keep going?
Both sides have been fighting for their future for months, if not years, prior to yesterday. The entire point of the referendum was to settle the issue and it did.
Complaining about turnout, or that the winning margin wasn't large enough, is nonsense. The turnout was higher than the previous five general elections and the winning margin for either side was always going to be small.
I'm going to sign it but personally I don't see this happening at all, surely the end result will be the same. I'm going back on my beliefs but if 16 year olds were allowed to vote we would not even be talking about exiting Europe right now.
It won't happen, but sometimes you have to let the people in charge know you're not happy. It's fair that some folk have some buyers remorse already and if the likes of Morgan Stanley and Nissan (or whoever as it doesn't have to be exactly them) pull out, add the fact that it's the young who want to stay in likelihood is the 48% will increase.
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Signed but more in protest at the way the campaigns were run and that it wasn't a significant majority
Don't expect anything to happen with this petition though it's up to almost 800k now
Don't expect anything to happen with this petition though it's up to almost 800k now
Grow up peeps. The UK and other nations are better off outside Y
From what i've seen about the EU - we are better off. We need to make our laws and in time we also need to be able to create money. I wouldn't worry about the fall out and the fear mongering after the event. Lots of countries will want to pull out and, maybe they know something others don't about the EU.
How many people actually researched it? Know what it is? I won't be signing. What's done is done in this case and it's acceptable. How many things have happened - that you've not liked, as a result of the EU? Immigration for one. You want our country flooded - as a result of manifactured warfare? Personally I think that alone is worth a no. We cannot be dictated too - unless people want what happened in Germany and else where, to happen here. We must have the power to protect our country. If you vote for the EU, that protection goes. Look at what happened to Germany.....how many times you seen the news make that point or highlight what's gone on in Europe?...When we voted not to go to war in Syria....that went well didn't it....How did they protect the German women from all those assaults?
I know it will offend some - and that's not my intention. It's just that the EU is a turd with lipstick on it. It does not represent our interests. It was an idea some control freaks/nutters had a long time ago and they covertly sold the idea to people while impressing on them bullshit in the media that if we left, what a disaster it would be.
I would ignore the drama.
From what i've seen about the EU - we are better off. We need to make our laws and in time we also need to be able to create money. I wouldn't worry about the fall out and the fear mongering after the event. Lots of countries will want to pull out and, maybe they know something others don't about the EU.
How many people actually researched it? Know what it is? I won't be signing. What's done is done in this case and it's acceptable. How many things have happened - that you've not liked, as a result of the EU? Immigration for one. You want our country flooded - as a result of manifactured warfare? Personally I think that alone is worth a no. We cannot be dictated too - unless people want what happened in Germany and else where, to happen here. We must have the power to protect our country. If you vote for the EU, that protection goes. Look at what happened to Germany.....how many times you seen the news make that point or highlight what's gone on in Europe?...When we voted not to go to war in Syria....that went well didn't it....How did they protect the German women from all those assaults?
I know it will offend some - and that's not my intention. It's just that the EU is a turd with lipstick on it. It does not represent our interests. It was an idea some control freaks/nutters had a long time ago and they covertly sold the idea to people while impressing on them bullshit in the media that if we left, what a disaster it would be.
I would ignore the drama.
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Quiet acceptance isn't the way in general. People need to make as much noise as possible. Doesn't work in the end? Well, feck it. At least you gave it a go.
The opposition would have done the same if the shoe had been on the other foot.
aye that's what else the country needs, a significant brain drain.
To all the people quick to rubbish this (even though I don't agree with it either and won't be signing it) Farage was the first one to say that if the remain side won 52-48 that he would call a second referendum. So the other side would have done exactly the same.
I think you missed the part where the country just voted to take that right away from me.
Exactly. Didn't Nigel even say in the run up if it was this result but the other way around he'd still carry on fighting for it?
Said it the day before I think. Blamed it on the 48 hour extension, and now everyone on his side is suddenly great bastions of democracy.
854,145 signatures
855,000 signatures. Unfortunately this wont do shit. There is no way in hell they will agree to this.
It's rising with about 2000 signatures per minute now.
Well said, it'll fall on deaf ears though in these threads, you'll be wasting your time. Just move on and don't get drawn into arguments.
Yeah, I'm suddenly hearing lots of "democracy has spoken" type rhetoric. It's easy to champion the virtues of the system when it works in your favour, but they'd have been foaming at the mouth and talking monumental amounts of shit had they lost by such a narrow margin.
Anyway, if the outcome had been consistent across the country, I think it would have been easier to accept. As it is, this isn't a United Kingdom leaving the European Union. It being a nation that would grow stronger away from the EU was a fundamental part of the leave campaign's rhetoric, but the result has unequivocally divided the country. It's anything but an emphatic victory because it's raised more questions than it's answered. It's wrong to think that the UK can just forge ahead now, particularly when its capital (one of the most important cities in the world) and a disenchanted member state opted for a completely different direction.
Useless.
Well .It as to be discussed now. Not that it will amount to anything.
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Over 1 million signatures now
I haven't been able to get the email yet but I will sign it when I can
Still almost 17,000,000 away from the number who voted to leave, though. I seriously doubt this petition will have any effect whatsoever.
I'm gutted we've voted to leave, but I don't see any turning back from it for a generation at least. The terms proposed by the petition should have been part and parcel of the referendum, but they weren't.
Check your junk folder. That's where my email went.
Not a good omen, I must say.
If , as I've read, 30% of leave voters, voted as a 'protest', but actually wanted to remain...
Then democracy has happened, they voted and their votes were counted...
... Perhaps an indication that people have a real issue distinguishing between irrelevant social media/banter and making a life changing decision for 65m Uk people, and potentially the odd 1b around the world.
Democracy is great, it's to be cherished, but you wonder if people are blinded by having that freedom, to trivialise it.
Then democracy has happened, they voted and their votes were counted...
... Perhaps an indication that people have a real issue distinguishing between irrelevant social media/banter and making a life changing decision for 65m Uk people, and potentially the odd 1b around the world.
Democracy is great, it's to be cherished, but you wonder if people are blinded by having that freedom, to trivialise it.
Why not just accept the result and get on with life. its like rawk in here atm
Why should we just accept something that half of us don't want. If you shout loud enough your voice is heard and the remain campaign still intends to be heard
The most signatures ever for a petition on this scheme and by over 300k signatures.
The second is closed and finished on approx. 834k signatures.
The second is closed and finished on approx. 834k signatures.
Some things are worth fighting for. If you don't understand then you most likely voted leave.
Signed, I was too young to vote in the referendum but feel I should still get my voice heard in some way. Sadly I don't think it's likely that this will affect anything, any decision to reverse the result of the referendum would be met by too much hostility from the Leave campaign and it'd only fuel the rise of UKIP.
Fixed that for you