Ali Dia
Full Member
It's possible to be as hard as a totem pole and unhappy in a relationship at the same time.
Amen!

It's possible to be as hard as a totem pole and unhappy in a relationship at the same time.
Gary is team Ratcliffe.
Fair enough but you see in that case they would be *our* war criminals which makes the British government their accomplice which complicates things.
True , but I still prefer not being owned by oil sheikhs .Mofos weren’t buying this when the Saudis were sniffing around cause “freedom” and optics.
Two sides of the same coin.
True , but I still prefer not being owned by oil sheikhs .
Alright man strong convoBut literally everybody knew it was rumbling on in the background. It’s like saying the war in Ukraine isn’t happening because it isn’t dominating the news cycle any more.
Yep. The only if is there’s an investment that comes along with bigger returns (or the same) and less attention so it’s less of a headacheYep- if they sell in the next 10 years it will be just after a serious title challenge or a major cup, when positivity at the club is at its highest. No way I can see them selling at one of your lowest points since they took over. They’re businessmen first and foremost.
I hope your rightIt was 2.5, with 1.75 in investments into the club over an unspecified period of time. Their debt was different than ours. I think they'll have to let go at a reasonable valuation. Somewhere between 3.5 and 4.
Following Barcelona model... Hurry up Sir Jim!!
Following Barcelona model... Hurry up Sir Jim!!
Following Barcelona model... Hurry up Sir Jim!!
Contact the sponsors. Say that you are boycotting their products until the club is sold to fit and proper ownership I.e. Sir Jim RatcliffeFeels like there may be blood in the water. We need to keep the pressure up on the Glazers, keep them in the newscycle etc.
Does anyone have suggestions for those of us not close enough to regularly attend matches / protests?
Good shout - I'll do just that. There's a list of United sponsors on the website handily enough.Contact the sponsors. Say that you are boycotting their products until the club is sold to fit and proper ownership I.e. Sir Jim Ratcliffe
Sir Jim doesn’t want to run the club for profit. He is nearly 70 and wants to set up a legacy. He has said he knows how important the club is to the city.
Hope we don’t lose momentum because of a few last minute signings.
The Glazers look like they’re floundering, but they’ll hold on to the bitter end. I doubt even Radcliffe offering £5b would make them flinch. I hope I’m wrong. I also hope Radcliffe is serious.
The NFL Broncos just sold for $4.65B. And they're nothing special as a brand. Have a couple Super Bowls but they're not an iconic franchise like Manchester United. As a brand they are unrivaled and that will probably be more and more true going forward because I think the Premier League is a bit undervalued. It's a tougher league on the owners due to no profit sharing and cap like the NFL has, but this sport is truly the world sport and I think estimates on its value rising are wise.£5bn is insane and won’t ever happen. There’s not enough profit, assets, or growth to justify it. One can look at acquisitions historically and estimate what the true valuation should be, and I doubt it would be anywhere near that.
Big question is if the fans would start a serious protest again. For some reason I doubt itI cannot see fans bowing to this. The fans reaction to the ESL last year would hopefully be timid compare to the outrage over this
If the Glazers start selling future profits for immediate cash? Maybe I'm being naive, but that feels like a line crossed, especially after Barcelona premiered to the world what a shit show this path isBig question is if the fans would start a serious protest again. For some reason I doubt it
The club have denied this story. The Times seem to be doing PR work for Ratcliffe which I’m not against as I want the Glazers gone but it’s interesting to see what power money brings. Sky and the times have suddenly been relentless the last few weeks about the Glazer ownership - this is all part of a plan to force them out.I cannot see fans bowing to this. The fans reaction to the ESL last year would hopefully be timid compare to the outrage over this
This won happen for another few months, if at all.
It's a good point that the article is a bit misleading, making it sound like the Glazers are actively pursuing this path instead of the idea being floated to them.The club have denied this story. The Times seem to be doing PR work for Ratcliffe which I’m not against as I want the Glazers gone but it’s interesting to see what power money brings. Sky and the times have suddenly been relentless the last few weeks about the Glazer ownership - this is all part of a plan to force them out.
So apparently only Joel wants to remain - surely targeting each glazer individually and offering them a wad of cash for their shares is the way to go in order to get a controlling stake? Even do a deal where you guarantee he stays on the board as vice chair or something if they don’t won’t to feck him over too much.
At some point it will, but deals like this will take months and even years.