Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops

AFC NimbleThumb said:
The deevolution of the ‘Karen’ is complete :lol:



Edit: To confirm I think the man is obviously poking the bear in this situation but her, “you’re attacking me” is hilarious.
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Is this real? I thought it was a made up parody. But does everyone film everyone these days?
 
sammsky1 said:
I agree. Verbal racist abuse is anyway the the least violent form racism. Despite being vile and unjust, at the end of the day, it's still just a word and the receiver can choose not to be affected by it. Rather, it is these types of hidden masked forms of racism that are so much more dangerous.

What was learned from the Amy Cooper episode, and from what I believe is happening here, is Karen's posses an instinctual level of hysterics, that would make a neutral onlooker believe she was under serious physical danger from a black man. And if the police turn up to such a scenario, it always ends very badly for the black man. Her completely over the top reaction is cynical racism in itself, and that's even before get to the verbal abuse.
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This is where I thought the discussion would lead in all honesty, I wasn’t expecting so many to be wary cause of the lack of ‘n word’ on video.

Her hysterics are a defence mechanism, & given a video showing about 10 people around her with her still hollering it comes across as her way of not actually dealing with the situation at hand.

We can’t definitively see what caused the video but she seems far more worried about her reputation than anything else.
 
This one definitely feels off, I'm not jumping on the "fecking Karen" bangwagon like I have with the others.
 
Man tells hysterical woman don't worry, he's not going to put it on Instagram. Not only puts it on Instagram but is even selling T-shirts about it.

There's a cruelty about this incident which is disproportionate to the offence, in my view.
 
Penna said:
Man tells hysterical woman don't worry, he's not going to put it on Instagram. Not only puts it on Instagram but is even selling T-shirts about it.

There's a cruelty about this incident which is disproportionate to the offence, in my view.
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Agreed. He is twisting the knife.
 


This clip from last month was an eye-opener. Why on earth would the lady at the restaurant say "whatever n****r' to him in that particular setting? Doesn't make sense.
 
Yeah kinda shitty about meme/clickbait culture are those chasing clout for their insta-stories. With all the real and very horrendous examples or racism, you'll get the occasional Jussie Smollett so its important to not always deploy the pitchforks too quickly
 
Wolverine said:
Yeah kinda shitty about meme/clickbait culture are those chasing clout for their insta-stories. With all the real and very horrendous examples or racism, you'll get the occasional Jussie Smollett so its important to not always deploy the pitchforks too quickly
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Well, just one fake story a) gives ammunition to people who want to disprove true and important stories and b) ruins lives. I can't imagine what it's like to be doxxed.
 
horsechoker said:
So Karen or nah?
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She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not a tactic that's exclusive to Karens.
 
Dante said:
She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not exclusive to Karens.
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She is having a panic attack.
 
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horsechoker said:
I think August Ames (former pornstar) killed herself because of twitter abuse.
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Supposed to be a really good documentary about that. She refused to perform with an actor who had previously done gay porn and twitter went after her.
 
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter
 
I've seen the original video being shared all over Facebook and the reactions are as expected when people see the "Karen" title.

It just shows how gullible a majority of humans are (no matter the race, nationality, gender, etc.) and how easy it is to manipulate by using current events that create strong division and emotion in people.
 
Wolverine said:
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter
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What do they mean by that?
 
Wolverine said:
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter
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On the subject of social media going against type, am I the only one who finds his decision to go with an Instagram story as his public shaming tool of choice a little unusual?
 
Zarlak said:
Interesting read and looks like there's definitely more than meets the eye with this, but also an incredible amount of ignorance, white privilege and whitesplaining displayed by the writer.
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Writer does his best to destroy the black guy's character without proving any of his own assertions. Thats what I read.
Oldest and crudest trick in the book when trying to reduce credibility of a person of colour.
 
sammsky1 said:
Remember in the video, he has literally just got out of her car, not thinking calmly having just been abused. Also, he knows he doesn't have evidence of it, so difficult to make the claim.
He mentions it several times in the longer film below after 8 min.
I believe him, because he was so affronted, and because of the woman's hysterics.

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I don’t know what happened. But anyone that treats someone in that level of distress, like that... is a cnut. feck them.

Just because you (May) have right on your side, doesn’t allow you to treat another like a punchbag.

feck all garbage people.
 
Hugh Jass said:
What do they mean by that?
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An opportunistic con artist or swindler. Basically exploited the very real cultural moment people are having in terms of calling out problematic behaviour to gain viral fame by making hyperbolic or untrue accusations.
 
DoomSlayer said:
I've seen the original video being shared all over Facebook and the reactions are as expected when people see the "Karen" title.

It just shows how gullible a majority of humans are (no matter the race, nationality, gender, etc.) and how easy it is to manipulate by using current events that create strong division and emotion in people.
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If you frame something a certain way, people can be conned. I mean in general not just with regards this latest incident.

There is a famous story about a kid in school who gave a presentation about how dangerous the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide" is. "It can burn you as a gas. It causes global warming. It erodes granite." The student said this as a presentation and all the other students agreed. But dihydrogen monoxide is just another name for water.

The moral is, if you frame something a certain way, you can determine how people react.
 
Wolverine said:
An opportunistic con artist or swindler. Basically exploited the very real cultural moment people are having in terms of calling out problematic behaviour to gain viral fame by making hyperbolic or untrue accusations.
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Thanks.
 
Dante said:
She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not a tactic that's exclusive to Karens.
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Not all Karen’s are white. Or female. Or middle class. Or middle age.

It’s the entitlement and attitude that defines.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
On the subject of social media going against type, am I the only one who finds his decision to go with an Instagram story as his public shaming tool of choice a little unusual?
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I'd imagine that instagram stories being short (max 15 seconds) would make a certain moment or comment go viral and more likely to spark outrage. In this instance her screaming out "i have a black husband" is the part that sparked the trending topic with outrage and hot takes started there.

Whereas when people saw the rest of the stories and gained a bigger picture more skepticism evolved around the situation
 
sammsky1 said:
Writer does his best to destroy the black guy's character without proving any of his own assertions. Thats what I read.
Oldest and crudest trick in the book when trying to reduce credibility of a person of colour.
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The article says 'he has no proof to say if it happened or not' before then launching a staunch opinion piece on why it didn't happen, despite zero proof. Destroying his character while painting her as the poor victim. It's really actually a shocking read on second viewing. Whether she said it or not is a story on its own, but the logical fallacies and mental gymnastics on display in this article have nothing to do with whether or not she said it, and just serve to take a side despite zero evidence either way.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Not all Karen’s are white. Or female. Or middle class. Or middle age.

It’s the entitlement and attitude that defines.
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No, that's exactly what Karens are.

Entitlement is a different matter. Give people with that attitude a different name, if you like.
 
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