True, form is temporary. Fifa rating is the only way we must judge a player.
Who cares if they performs like shit, as long as they are big names with high Fifa rating
Solskjaer's legacy and his future
- Thread starter Skills
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
True, form is temporary. Fifa rating is the only way we must judge a player.
Who cares if they performs like shit, as long as they are big names with high Fifa rating
Same way Rashford being motivated and a somewhat decent player a couple years ago helps us now. Or the same way Lingard scoring in an FA Cup final years ago makes him an amazing squad player. Current form is irrelevant when you play for a poxy club like United where a consistently high standard isn't important.
He wasn’t just a failure. He was a disaster.
I can’t believe anyone is still taking up for him.
I can’t believe anyone is still taking up for him.
I don't know what that poster is on about
Clearly not someone serious, even the username speaks volumes. Same guy said if Ole was still here Haaland would come here in the summer and that Haaland is going to Arsenal.
I simply questioning a freak statistic. You recovered 31 points from losing positions. The next best team was 20. This season the most so far is 14 and it won’t be anywhere close to that. I’m not denying there’s a little skill involved but outright denying there’s no luck involved at all is criminally delusional.
This isn’t a thread comparing Ralf to Ole. I don’t care what Ralf is doing. I’m simply stating a fact that some of your own fans are wise enough to notice, Ole was lucky and his luck did run out. He was a shite manager before United and he will be a shite manager after United. 10 years in his career and he still made amateur mistakes and was continuously compared to Lampard, a rookie in comparison.
Whenever I watched us under Ole, I kept telling my friends that I don't know wtf these players are doing on the pitch. They just somehow end up winning!
It was pretty evident that this "go out there and enjoy" won't last long.
But if we question that we don't know anything about football
For me this was the most obvious thing. For us United fans comparing the manager with Chelsea's seemed normal but it's abnormal when you look deeper into it. Ole did get lucky. But the luckiest he had been was when he signed Bruno and Bruno started firing right away and saved him the job.
Maybe we should call back scholes giggs beckham and co according to your logic. They are just in bad form now right cause of age. Maybe they can go back to early 2000s form
Left the squad in the worst state out of all managers post SAF imo. The mood was quite shite when Jose left us, but the mood seems just as bad, if not worse now, as well as spending record sums on players who are shite that will now be almost impossible to move on.
Rough situation to be in
Rough situation to be in
Nkunku
Thank god that Murtough had revamped the recruitment department. Can you imagine if that wasn't the case? We wouldn't be able to discover the likes of Varane (Real) or Ronaldo (Juventus)
We also unearthed an unknown talent named Sancho that played for a village team called Dortmund. Seriously our recruitment team probably consist of teenage fifa players sorting through player ratings. It doesnt take an ounce of brain cell and scouting to sign those players.
Seems like some in here really know a lot about football recruitment 
Seems like some in here really know a lot about football recruitment
From Ogden to former players like Choccy, nowadays everyone seem to say the same thing about recruitment department. It is shit. You don't need to be a genius to see that. We go for the safe signings (Maguire,Varane,Ronaldo, Sancho etc) on stupid money and even they fail big time.
I must be having sight problems too: https://www.transfermarkt.com/manchester-united/ausfallzeiten/verein/985/plus/1?reldata=GB1&2020
Check the facts before you right bs.
Are you trying to insinuate Man Utds injury issues were remotely comparable to Liverpool last season?
The best squad in the europa league, but the worst squad in the history of football just a few months later right?
Lost on penalties to Villareal, who a couple of months later also took european champions Chelsea to penalties and have just knocked Bayern Munich out of the CL, what an abstract failure, oh and Chelsea and bayern have better squads than us, so Tuchel and naglesmann must be rubbish. Oh and we beat Villareal this season already twice once under Ole and the other time all of 3 days after Ole had been dismissed.
The funny thing is all through our poor start to the season the narrative was a good coach would get so much more out of this squad, Ole has been dismissed and a 'good coach' has been put in his place yet performances are probably worse. The evidence suggest Ole was actually quite good and was getting quite alot out of this squad.
The second part is hilarious when it’s wheeled out. Let’s all pretend that United had this massive advantage to prove our point. Every other team played behind closed doors that season as well. The playing field was even, everyone else had the opportunity to do the same thing and didn’t.
Its not bullshit. Did Ole have to resort to playing a midfielder in defense like Klopp had to at Liverpool? Manchester United's injuries were not that significant that Ole had to resort to playing players out of position. Liverpools best defender and probably one of the worlds best in Virgil Van Dijk was injured. Can't recall Bruno Fernandes or any important player being injured at Manchester United.
Agreed, but in that case, I don't see this sort of defence in favour of Ole in his 1st full season when we had quite a lot of injuries then. We had Rashford, Martial, McT, Pog, Fred out for considerable period of time in that season, yet people say we finished 4th because Leicester bottled it.
I’m not even surprised what lenght some of you will go just to put down Solskjaer. This is just pure dislike of a manager on personal level.
Now we hear lucky, other had injury crises like we didn’t, individual brilliance like every other teams are just team efforts. You got what you wished for with him being sacked and we still look like amateurs. It isn’t Rangnick fault. I’m behind him 100% as well. It is down to players.
Now we hear lucky, other had injury crises like we didn’t, individual brilliance like every other teams are just team efforts. You got what you wished for with him being sacked and we still look like amateurs. It isn’t Rangnick fault. I’m behind him 100% as well. It is down to players.
Its not totally Ole's fault by the way. But he is partly to blame because he bought these players and breed this player power culture by being too soft. It was eventually going to come crashing down. Legend of a player but an awful manager. Probably the second worst we have had as he didn't look capable of winning anything.
The lengths some will go to, to big Ole up is bizarre.
what is wrong with saying Ole was an awful manager in the end. People aren't abusing the guy by doing that. His thumbs up on the touchline when Fred did an awful shot absolutely showed the guys standards and that he didn't have the bulls to call these players out.
I don't get it personally. Ole didn't give us fond memories we will remember. He also made some massive errors which contributed to it turning to crap this season. Like for example keep picking players when they continualy play awful, made Maguire captain and didn't take the captaincy off him.
As it stands, the situation we’re in now as a club is not too dissimilar what Cameron did after the Brexit vote ie- disappear and after leaving an almighty mess for everyone else to clear up afterwards.
I’d imagine Ole will be offered another job, maybe at a club like Sheffield Wednesday?
I’d imagine Ole will be offered another job, maybe at a club like Sheffield Wednesday?
He was a failure on pretty much every metric. He gave us some decent moments, but overall, it was fairly obvious that he wasn't going to take us anywhere.
I tried playing along with the happy-clappy-seeing-the-positives-in-Ole brigade on here; but ultimately, it was obvious as the day is long, that he was nowhere near good enough.
I'm fairly confident had we sacked him for Tuchel when he was available, we would be in a much better place with pretty much the same squad. Ole left behind a squad far better than it's showing; ultimately though, he left a mess in terms of mentality etc. The squad needs a massive overhaul, and that's a-lot to do with Ole.
Last edited:
Ole's problem was he was too soft I think. And basically the players took advantage. As a manager you can't be nice all the time. You do have to have a ruthless side to you as well.
Remove the early VAR era penalty boom and the results would have reflected the performances a lot more. Both his and Fernandes' reputation got distorted because of it.
Nothing wrong if you think that. But do it for fair reasons and not some made up wierd argument about lucky and all that.
That was a wierd take about Fred. Game between ManCity and Liverpool. One City player passed wrong and Guardiola gives him applaud. Does that show standards of Guardiola?
Remove football and there wouldn’t be anything to talk about here. Remove VAR and we will be talking about Liverpool still not winning league.
You have a weird take. Ole kept picking players no matter how poor they played and gave Maguire the captaincy. Even worse he didn't take it off him. I also stand by the comment Ole was too soft. You giving a Ole a free pass is what is weird.
If you followed me you would see that I have never given him free pass. He got wrong in couple of things. His biggest problem was being to kind to some. He should have kicked out pretenders and those who used club to boost their own egos. Problem is that they are money assets to club and it is hard. We saw what happened to Mourinho when he was straight forward.
If you got players that don’t perform or care you can stop using them right away. But when you have lot of them and you decide as some here suggested to play kids you have no right to give criticism when you get destroyed by 10 goals. It is still Premier League. So what I hope is summer clearout.
Fair enough on the stats but this season he has contributed to the shitshow. He gives the ball away far too often. Still a good signing though for Ole I would say. Needs to up his game next season though and sharpen up.
Ole for the simple reason he was naive and maybe even got taken advantage of his naivety.
If Ole wanted a team that's going to play on the front foot he should have realized that Jose never plays on the front foot.
So he should have never bought a player especially a defender that Jose wanted. He knew that he was losing Herera yet never strengthen the midfield.
If Ole wanted a team that's going to play on the front foot he should have realized that Jose never plays on the front foot.
So he should have never bought a player especially a defender that Jose wanted. He knew that he was losing Herera yet never strengthen the midfield.
I agree with most of what has been written here. But I really hope Ole isn't reading this!
He knows we're disappointed to the bone.
He also probably knows players did their part in sending him on early vacations.
The history books show the legacy of any sportsman team or manager. It states what they achieved. Oles managerial part of his legacy will show the greatest spending over 3 years with nothing to show for it. He will be remembered for his goal mainly in the 99 treble, not for managerial accomplishments
True enough, to say our managerial appointments post SAF have been a shambles would be an understatement!