Solskjaer's legacy and his future

[padzilla]

Achivement now. But let me ask you question. Did you think we could win the league last year with ManCity, Liverpool and Chelsea as main rivals. Be honest. And if you ddidn't, how come you see that as failure to actually come 2nd?

We all want to win. But reality is that we are not in 90's or 00's. Football and trophies are not only for us to collect. There are other teams around us.

I never for one moment believed we would win the league, because of our manager.

Also finishing second was clearly a false finish due to Liverpool not having a decent fit centre half for practically the entire season and Chelsea having ludicrously appointed Frank Lampard as manager / a very similar appointment to our own at the time.

It is pretty clear where we stand now that Liverpool and Chelsea are light years ahead of us once again in under 12 months.

 

[devilish]

As a temp Ole was an excellent manager. He lead the ship to safety and he rallied the troops whose morale was at the pit. As a permanent manager his lack of tactical acumen was exposed, his nepotism didn't help his lack of experience and United was a walking disaster on the transfer market. Having said that should Ole take all the blame? Who hired the guy in the first place and were is the so called transfer committee that, together with Ole, thought that it was a good idea to bring the likes of Ronaldo, Maguire, AWB and an injury prone Varane in? Is Ole the only person who was out of depth at United? What are Jon Murtough's and Darren Fletcher's credentials?

In my opinion United will never heal until every ounce of incompetence is cleared.

 

[Jackal981]

Yeah, he said it. And people laughed.

And Ole defenders always paraded his 2nd place achievement like its a treble. These same people laughed when Mourinho said that. Funny thing is in retrospect the biggest achievement Ole had as a manager in his whole managerial career is achieving 2nd place for us.

Whatever Solskjaer's footballing philosophy was, I never felt he had a certain "type" of player and that he only signed players who fitted that.

He had a bullcrap philosophy about United DNA bollox and buying british players for his supposed "cultural revolution" ala mao zedong

 

[stevoc]

It's raging because there's still a lot of people defending him even after he left the club in a worse position than what he found it. It's not rocket science that if that defence was dropped then Ole would be nothing more than a footnote in our history and basically forgotten about but repeatedly re gurgatating all the good he done as our manager is going to keep that emotion going for the people who can actually see the woods inspite of the trees.

If that Is the case then surely the criticism and/or abuse comes first and the defending after no?

So people would only be reacting to new posts in these threads raging daily for months on end. Surely if people just let it go and stopped spouting shit about Solskjaer every day there would be no need for anyone to defend him. Chicken and Egg situation I suppose.

But hey if people get their kicks shitting on Solskjaer every day, fair play to them.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

If that Is the case then surely the criticism and/or abuse comes first and the defending after no?

So people would only be reacting to new posts in these threads raging daily for months on end. Surely if people just let it go and stopped spouting shit about Solskjaer every day there would be no need for anyone to defend him. Chicken and Egg situation I suppose.

But hey if people get their kicks shitting on Solskjaer every day, fair play to them.

The abuse started basically after the end of his first season with us when he couldn't buy a win which I suppose is natural given the level of our performances which then carried on into the following season. We did hit periods of form where even if the performances weren't ideal, the results where.

Some people chose to look at the results, some the performances which is what really split the forum apart. Winning ugly became part of the norm which was used to defend Ole while others couldn't see him taking us to the next level. Who was right/wrong? Both sides felt like they had a case which is why the vitriol will continue until we start to win something again which may be quite a while considering what's been happening at the club since (before) SAF retired and unfortunately Ole has to take his fair share of the blame with his signings, (lack of) style of play and all round miserable atmosphere that's still hanging round the club 5 months after he's gone which a lot of people find hard to defend. Myself included.

 

[anant]

The abuse started basically after the end of his first season with us when he couldn't buy a win which I suppose is natural given the level of our performances which then carried on into the following season. We did hit periods of form where even if the performances weren't ideal, the results where.

Some people chose to look at the results, some the performances which is what really split the forum apart. Winning ugly became part of the norm which was used to defend Ole while others couldn't see him taking us to the next level. Who was right/wrong? Both sides felt like they had a case which is why the vitriol will continue until we start to win something again which may be quite a while considering what's been happening at the club since (before) SAF retired and unfortunately Ole has to take his fair share of the blame with his signings, (lack of) style of play and all round miserable atmosphere that's still hanging round the club 5 months after he's gone which a lot of people find hard to defend. Myself included.

I think I've asked this to someone else on this thread, but how many games did we even win under Ole last season where we weren't the better team? BHA apart, I really can't recall any league game. Sure we weren't City level dominant in most of the wins, but I'd say we were at the very least 60-40 better than the opposition in nearly all of our wins.

And while there were ugly wins vs Fulham and Villa at the start of 2021 - where we were slightly better tbf - there were also games like the Arsenal 0-0 where we ideally should have won, but couldn't finish our chances.

 

[SirReginald]

I think I've asked this to someone else on this thread, but how many games did we even win under Ole last season where we weren't the better team? BHA apart, I really can't recall any league game. Sure we weren't City level dominant in most of the wins, but I'd say we were at the very least 60-40 better than the opposition in nearly all of our wins.

And while there were ugly wins vs Fulham and Villa at the start of 2021 - where we were slightly better tbf - there were also games like the Arsenal 0-0 where we ideally should have won, but couldn't finish our chances.

Let’s see, P38 W21 D11 L6

17/38 games you conceded first, Of which, 10/21 wins came after conceding first.

I don’t doubt that you clearly finished games strongly last year, come back record was insane, but you can’t say “nearly all our wins we were better”. Slight revisionism.

 

[crossy1686]

 

[Forevergiggs1]

I think I've asked this to someone else on this thread, but how many games did we even win under Ole last season where we weren't the better team? BHA apart, I really can't recall any league game. Sure we weren't City level dominant in most of the wins, but I'd say we were at the very least 60-40 better than the opposition in nearly all of our wins.

And while there were ugly wins vs Fulham and Villa at the start of 2021 - where we were slightly better tbf - there were also games like the Arsenal 0-0 where we ideally should have won, but couldn't finish our chances.

A reverse question would be is how many games did we play really well in? Without going behind or struggling to hold onto a lead or breaking teams down easily? There were many games like the 4-1 against Newcastle where the scoreline says we dominated but the performances said different where the game could of went either way late into the game. Of course it can happen to any teams in football but with us it was a regular event. You only have to look at the amount of times Oles head was on the block to realise good football wasn't bring played which should be the minimum requirement for a United manager after 3 years.

 

[90 + 5min]

I never for one moment believed we would win the league, because of our manager.

Also finishing second was clearly a false finish due to Liverpool not having a decent fit centre half for practically the entire season and Chelsea having ludicrously appointed Frank Lampard as manager / a very similar appointment to our own at the time.

It is pretty clear where we stand now that Liverpool and Chelsea are light years ahead of us once again in under 12 months.

If you didn't, then I guess he shouldn't be that bad coming 2nd.

I hear this about Liverpool (injuries) and Chelsea (manager) all the time. And I say, look at our injuries. It is not like we had a injury free season. We were actually very badly hit by injuries last year. Difference was they lost VanDijk who they depended on very much and still does. Can we say this season we would be lot better if we hadn't injuries and suspensions in our attacking group of players? Can we blame it on that when you say that Liverpool and Chelsea are lighyears ahead?

 

[Amir]

Difference was they lost VanDijk who they depended on very much and still does.

Losing him would have been one thing. But they lost ALL their centerhalves, which affected their midfield as well as they had to move players back.

That was different and bigger than just having a few injuries.

 

[The_Midfielder]

I never for one moment believed we would win the league, because of our manager.

Also finishing second was clearly a false finish due to Liverpool not having a decent fit centre half for practically the entire season and Chelsea having ludicrously appointed Frank Lampard as manager / a very similar appointment to our own at the time.

It is pretty clear where we stand now that Liverpool and Chelsea are light years ahead of us once again in under 12 months.

Whatever manager we get , we will not be winning the league for the next few years..
Pep and Klopp are the best managers in world football right now, so unless u get somebody as good as them, it would be impossible..
Two managers , Simeone and Conte would run these 2 close .

 

[padzilla]

Losing him would have been one thing. But they lost ALL their centerhalves, which affected their midfield as well as they had to move players back.

That was different and bigger than just having a few injuries.

It's true sadly. Their central defensive woes last season were insane by any standards.

They didn't have a fit centre half for months.

 

[90 + 5min]

Losing him would have been one thing. But they lost ALL their centerhalves, which affected their midfield as well as they had to move players back.

That was different and bigger than just having a few injuries.

They didn't lose all centerbacks. Williams, Philips and Kabak played. Matip played first half of season when Gomez and VanDijk were injuried. It was few times they put a midfielder back there.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

If you didn't, then I guess he shouldn't be that bad coming 2nd.

I hear this about Liverpool (injuries) and Chelsea (manager) all the time. And I say, look at our injuries. It is not like we had a injury free season. We were actually very badly hit by injuries last year. Difference was they lost VanDijk who they depended on very much and still does. Can we say this season we would be lot better if we hadn't injuries and suspensions in our attacking group of players? Can we blame it on that when you say that Liverpool and Chelsea are lighyears ahead?

It wasn't just VVD that was injured. It was all their CBs and at stages Robertson and TAA to boot. Us losing a player like Martial or Pogba means nothing when they aren't very effective when fit. If we had of lost Bruno for a season then things would be completely different. Without his 28 goals and 18 assists we would of struggled for top 4 and struggled to reach semis/finals. Sometimes it isn't the amount of injuries sustained but the quality of them. Any other player in our team except maybe De Gea was injured and it doesn't mean much. Lose the 2020/21 Bruno then things change. Drastically.

 

[anant]

Let’s see, P38 W21 D11 L6

17/38 games you conceded first, Of which, 10/21 wins came after conceding first.

I don’t doubt that you clearly finished games strongly last year, come back record was insane, but you can’t say “nearly all our wins we were better”. Slight revisionism.

Still, the question is how many games did we win where we weren't the better side? Over 90 mins we were the better side in nearly every win.

 

[anant]

A reverse question would be is how many games did we play really well in? Without going behind or struggling to hold onto a lead or breaking teams down easily? There were many games like the 4-1 against Newcastle where the scoreline says we dominated but the performances said different where the game could of went either way late into the game. Of course it can happen to any teams in football but with us it was a regular event. You only have to look at the amount of times Oles head was on the block to realise good football wasn't bring played which should be the minimum requirement for a United manager after 3 years.

If you really think we weren't the better side in that 4-1 vs Newcastle, then I'm not sure there is any thing to talk about. I think Newcastle were incredibly lucky to have kept it 1-1 till almost the 80th minute. I'm quite quite sure even the caf reviews of that game would be quite positive.

And like I said earlier, I've never said we dominated games like City and Pool do, but hardly any of our wins was undeserving barring a couple of them (and on the flip side, we were unlucky in a few other games)

 

[anant]

 

[90 + 5min]

It wasn't just VVD that was injured. It was all their CBs and at stages Robertson and TAA to boot. Us losing a player like Martial or Pogba means nothing when they aren't very effective when fit. If we had of lost Bruno for a season then things would be completely different. Without his 28 goals and 18 assists we would of struggled for top 4 and struggled to reach semis/finals. Sometimes it isn't the amount of injuries sustained but the quality of them. Any other player in our team except maybe De Gea was injured and it doesn't mean much. Lose the 2020/21 Bruno then things change. Drastically.

This is where fact matters. Robertson played every Premier League game. Trent missed only 2 Premier League games. And I already said that it wasn't all of their centerbacks. Phillips, Williams, Kabak and Matip shared duties between them during season. 2020-2021 Liverpool if it is true.

We can agree that it is about quality of players who are injuried. But that is not same as saying they missed everyone.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

This is where fact matters. Robertson played every Premier League game. Trent missed only 2 Premier League games. And I already said that it wasn't all of their centerbacks. Phillips, Williams, Kabak and Matip shared duties between them during season. 2020-2021 Liverpool if it is true.

We can agree that it is about quality of players who are injuried. But that is not same as saying they missed everyone.

OK. To simplify matters I'll ask a hypothetical question. What if Bruno was out for the season and VVD played for the season? Without mentioning all the other Injuries Pool suffered. What would of been the outcome? While hypothetical I think the answer is obvious unless of course you're a die hard Ole fan where I'm guessing the answer would be, it's impossible to know.

Maybe true but when one player is responsible for almost 50% of our goals and assists and the other is one of the worlds best center backs I think a conclusion can be drawn. My own is we would of struggled to get top 4. Liverpool missed VVD desperately. We would miss Bruno more.

 

[90 + 5min]

OK. To simplify matters I'll ask a hypothetical question. What if Bruno was out for the season and VVD played for the season? Without mentioning all the other Injuries Pool suffered. What would of been the outcome? While hypothetical I think the answer is obvious unless of course you're a die hard Ole fan where I'm guessing the answer would be, it's impossible to know.

Maybe true but when one player is responsible for almost 50% of our goals and assists and the other is one of the worlds best center backs I think a conclusion can be drawn. My own is we would of struggled to get top 4. Liverpool missed VVD desperately. We would miss Bruno more.

Ofcourse we would be worse team without him. Fernandes is great player. No doubt about that. At same time, we would maybe be better off this year if we hadn't injuries and suspension all the time. Maybe.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I think there is no point of discussing how it works when we buy players. Lot of you think it is Solskjaer that decided and don’t actually know how it works. Same as some people thought Solskjaer was doctor and forced players to play injuried ignoring the fact that we have doctors.
Solskjaer is manager. He decides who plays and how we train and have some input what kind of players he want. It is up to others to deliever. If he wants as expample Messi but gets Dybala he will not say no. If he says we need CB or RB he will get those but maybe not the one he wants. Is he clear from any criticism. No. But lot of you think he was one man club and everything went trough him. That is far, far, far from the truth.

Even if we put aside Solskjaer quotes when he specifically said that he wanted them; do you want to say that Maguire and Awb were bought by Ed i love shiny new toys Woodward? You want to say that Woodward wanted to overpay for two players more or less unknown outside PL and who have zero marketing value?
Failed Cardiff manager wanted by name (feel free to google his quotes regarding those signings) Maguire, Donny, Awb, Bruno, Varane, Sancho, Cavani (he even gave him extension) and Ronaldo.
To Telles, James and Diallo he could have said no ffs. But still he said yes. No board in PL will not buy a player IF manager says no.

 

[R'hllor]

lul

 

[Forevergiggs1]

Ofcourse we would be worse team without him. Fernandes is great player. No doubt about that. At same time, we would maybe be better off this year if we hadn't injuries and suspension all the time. Maybe.

I think this season goes well beyond injuries tbh. Whatever happened just before the start of the season has left a big imprint on us up to the present time. The players have downed tools and from that there's no coming back unless ETH has the ability to win them over. If he can't then before looking at another manager it may finally sink in with our hierarchy that the players are to blame and the whole thing needs ripping up and started again.

I was actually one of those that thought a new manager would have this team rocking but that was without realising how gutless and weak minded our players really are. I've never felt so unemotionally detached from a group of players as this one which is why I couldn't care less if the whole squad was decimated. This cultural reboot has been one big massive failure and personally I think we'll need at least another 3 years before we're challenging for the big titles again which is my biggest, major gripe I have with Oles tenure since it was him that put the squad together and no amount of hearing about our successive top 4 finishes will diminish that. So round and round we go.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Ed was too trigger happy and no other club was chasing Ole. It was clear at the end of Ole's first season that he had no vision and no strategy. Losing at home to Huddersfield was the final proof. Still Ed gave him huge funds to buy players for positions that are still not resolved: RB, RW, CB, CM. Nice guy mediocre manager.

 

[90 + 5min]

Even if we put aside Solskjaer quotes when he specifically said that he wanted them; do you want to say that Maguire and Awb were bought by Ed i love shiny new toys Woodward? You want to say that Woodward wanted to overpay for two players more or less unknown outside PL and who have zero marketing value?
Failed Cardiff manager wanted by name (feel free to google his quotes regarding those signings) Maguire, Donny, Awb, Bruno, Varane, Sancho, Cavani (he even gave him extension) and Ronaldo.
To Telles, James and Diallo he could have said no ffs. But still he said yes. No board in PL will not buy a player IF manager says no.

I would love to see those quotes where he specifically said " I don't want Mbappe, give me Sancho. Or whatever player you want.

Do you seriously think that a manager would say something like: "No, he was our fifth choice"? I explained to you how it usually works when it comes to football. You can either listen to me or not. Do I agree with clubs transfer policy and some players being bought in? No. But that is how it works.

Your agenda is clearly shown when you put failed Cardiff manager in the beginning of a sentence. Why not praised Molde manager?

I think this season goes well beyond injuries tbh. Whatever happened just before the start of the season has left a big imprint on us up to the present time. The players have downed tools and from that there's no coming back unless ETH has the ability to win them over. If he can't then before looking at another manager it may finally sink in with our hierarchy that the players are to blame and the whole thing needs ripping up and started again.

I was actually one of those that thought a new manager would have this team rocking but that was without realising how gutless and weak minded our players really are. I've never felt so unemotionally detached from a group of players as this one which is why I couldn't care less if the whole squad was decimated. This cultural reboot has been one big massive failure and personally I think we'll need at least another 3 years before we're challenging for the big titles again which is my biggest, major gripe I have with Oles tenure since it was him that put the squad together and no amount of hearing about our successive top 4 finishes will diminish that. So round and round we go.

For me it was clear that this is not about managers and I didn't have any reason to believe that we would be better with new manager. You hoped for miracle that a new voice would somehow turn it around but it just made it more obvious where problems are.

 

[DeGea’sFeet]

When he was at United the journalist wanted to keep him there… now it’s a criminal offence to link him to the Burnley job?

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

The lies keep running and running in this thread

 

[Andycoleno9]

I would love to see those quotes where he specifically said " I don't want Mbappe, give me Sancho. Or whatever player you want.

Do you seriously think that a manager would say something like: "No, he was our fifth choice"? I explained to you how it usually works when it comes to football. You can either listen to me or not. Do I agree with clubs transfer policy and some players being bought in? No. But that is how it works.

Your agenda is clearly shown when you put failed Cardiff manager in the beginning of a sentence. Why not praised Molde manager?


For me it was clear that this is not about managers and I didn't have any reason to believe that we would be better with new manager. You hoped for miracle that a new voice would somehow turn it around but it just made it more obvious where problems are.

Praise Molde manager? For what? Two titles in 6 years in European tier 4 league. Wow, that is something.

No man, things in football doesn't work like that. It is like saying; "We failed with buying tier A players, lets start buying players from Division 1".
Manager is at least 50% of success. So club must always try to hire best possible manager (in our case tier A manager). If he fails, you go for another and another and another.

 

[Jackal981]

Did they owners put a huge bet for them going down ?

Looks like he is very offended . Anyhow I will eat my shoe if any PL teams in the next 3 years hired him. No sane board will touch him with a barge pole.

 

[Withnail]

 

[90 + 5min]

Praise Molde manager? For what? Two titles in 6 years in European tier 4 league. Wow, that is something.

No man, things in football doesn't work like that. It is like saying; "We failed with buying tier A players, lets start buying players from Division 1".
Manager is at least 50% of success. So club must always try to hire best possible manager (in our case tier A manager). If he fails, you go for another and another and another.

I would assume that you don't know where Molde was prior Solskjaer and how he turned around the club. Not only as a team but as club. But that is okey. I don't expect people to know everything. What I expect is not to undermine what he did just because you are not familiar with the situation.

No, it dosen't work like that. You try to hire the one the is most right for a club. We have been trough best possible in vanGaal and Mourinho and neither couldn't get our team going the way we want. This is not to blame those managers.

 

[Jackal981]

I would assume that you don't know where Molde was prior Solskjaer and how he turned around the club. Not only as a team but as club. But that is okey. I don't expect people to know everything. What I expect is not to undermine what he did just because you are not familiar with the situation.

No, it dosen't work like that. You try to hire the one the is most right for a club. We have been trough best possible in vanGaal and Mourinho and neither couldn't get our team going the way we want. This is not to blame those managers.

On his second stint (3 seasons) he failed to win the league and the season after he left they immediately won the league under the new manager

 

[Dunk the Lunk]

I would assume that you don't know where Molde was prior Solskjaer and how he turned around the club. Not only as a team but as club. But that is okey. I don't expect people to know everything. What I expect is not to undermine what he did just because you are not familiar with the situation.

No, it dosen't work like that. You try to hire the one the is most right for a club. We have been trough best possible in vanGaal and Mourinho and neither couldn't get our team going the way we want. This is not to blame those managers.

This is such an dishonest way of discussion. You and me are both from scandinavia and what we know that people outside scandinavia dont know is that when Ole came back to Norway and joined this project, because that what it was, a superhyped, multimillion project with Oles face to it, there'd only be one way this would end, gold to Molde.
The hype around this project brought Molde better players than should play in norway, everyone was in on the hype.

Ole is by far the biggest ever star in a small country like Norway and this project was MASSIVE.

Both you and me know that everyone would have been more surprised if he DIDNT win the league then if he'd win. Everything fell it to his lap. Molde is also the richest club in Norway.

Norwegians like to hype up that achievement but it really wasnt anything special. Ill say it again, with all the resources and hype around this project, it wasnt that impressive. And that is the truth.

I get you bro, you are norwegian, he is norwegian and he is your biggest idol, but keep to the truth.

 

[anant]

When he was at United the journalist wanted to keep him there… now it’s a criminal offence to link him to the Burnley job?

Huh? Orny is just asking not to spread fake news in his name and he is right there

 

[Andycoleno9]

I would assume that you don't know where Molde was prior Solskjaer and how he turned around the club. Not only as a team but as club. But that is okey. I don't expect people to know everything. What I expect is not to undermine what he did just because you are not familiar with the situation.

No, it dosen't work like that. You try to hire the one the is most right for a club. We have been trough best possible in vanGaal and Mourinho and neither couldn't get our team going the way we want. This is not to blame those managers.

It is still Norway league ffs. Not to mention that in his second reign he won nothing.
Ok, give me straight answer; for you, is it normal/logical that club big as United hires a manager whos CV is winning two titles in Norway 8 years before and complete debacle in Cardiff (just to remind you, he didn't just relegated Cardiff. His start of next season in championship was disaster too.)

 

[Andycoleno9]

Did they owners put a huge bet for them going down ?


Looks like he is very offended . Anyhow I will eat my shoe if any PL teams in the next 3 years hired him. No sane board will touch him with a barge pole.

If, by some miracle, he becomes Burnley manager, there is no bloody way that he would manage to win a single game. Draw yes, but win (for which you must score a goal) no fecking way.

 

[DeGea’sFeet]

It is still Norway league ffs. Not to mention that in his second reign he won nothing.
Ok, give me straight answer; for you, is it normal/logical that club big as United hires a manager whos CV is winning two titles in Norway 8 years before and complete debacle in Cardiff (just to remind you, he didn't just relegated Cardiff. His start of next season in championship was disaster too.)

While the question wasn’t posed at. I don’t object to the CV, plenty of manager’s have gone to top clubs with relatively unimpressive CV’s and done well.

The screw up with Solskjaer was that it became very obvious that he wasn’t the elite level coach of a Pep or even half decent or one with potential like Arteta or Viera. Not only that but they had his stint at Cardiff as a warning.. ok maybe he learnt his from that experience , Klopp got relegated, I think Enrique got sacked in Italy etc. But again very quickly it became very obvious that he hadn’t learnt anything and was the same manager that he was at Cardiff.

 

[Polar]

Maguire, Donny, Awb, Bruno, Varane, Sancho, Cavani (he even gave him extension) and Ronaldo.
To Telles, James and Diallo he could have said no ffs. But still he said yes. No board in PL will not buy a player IF manager says no.

The main question no one knows the answer: who were the alternatives to all the above mentioned names? Was Ole presented better alternatives? If not… which choice did he have? We were desperate for a new CB, RB and LB, and I think Ole trusted the United system regarding those transfers.

The only transfers I remember Ole engaged heavily in was Bruno and Sancho. Those transfers were very important for him personally.

 

[Andycoleno9]

The main question no one knows the answer: who were the alternatives to all the above mentioned names? Was Ole presented better alternatives? If not… which choice did he have? We were desperate for a new CB, RB and LB, and I think Ole trusted the United system regarding those transfers.

The only transfers I remember Ole engaged heavily in was Bruno and Sancho. Those transfers were very important for him personally.

I think that giving Maguire captain armband after 3 months in club, tells everything how much he wanted exactly him.

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...ry-maguire-was-his-number-one-transfer-target

Awb
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/aaron-wan-bissaka-signs-for-manchester-united
Donny:
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...he-expects-from-new-signing-donny-van-de-beek
Cavani:
https://www.si.com/soccer/mancheste...skjaer-conversation-encouraged-to-join-united
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/solskjaer-cavani-man-utd-contract-24079641

No words needed.

Edit: quote from Donny's first interview:
“Last week I spoke to Solskjaer. It was about private things, but also about football. He said he’s been following me for a very long while. He said he knew exactly what my biggest strengths are and told me that he wants me to be in and around the 16 [yard] box at Man United too.”