Have a feeling that suddenly a lot of democrats are going to switch their narrative from Mueller the uber patriot to Mueller the republican.
The Mueller Report
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It's going to be unbearable if Trump wins the league.
Really don't see why this needed another thread tbh...
Will Mueller be investigating this too?
The USA is fecked.... And it's put the entire world in jeopardy. If Trump and co get away with all this then there really is no hope at all. Every single day that man spends in office puts the world further in danger. Laughing and joking aside, I believe that 100%
The politico article seemed pretty definitive which is why I think Raoul went with this thread for the conclusion.
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Going by my following of the Trump Presidency thread, the investigation thread, and the various weeks I've spent following this soap opera on Twitter/newsoutlets/YT videos ...
this will be as anti-climatic as it gets, and Trump will walk scot free and use the report to boost his next Presidential campaign which he'll win by a greater margin.
this will be as anti-climatic as it gets, and Trump will walk scot free and use the report to boost his next Presidential campaign which he'll win by a greater margin.
This is going to be like the end to LOST isn’t it 
Even when Mueller releases the report and it turns out Trump had no collusion.This is far from the end of Trump's troubles.
I think the ones that they could tie to some actual crimes are already indicted. I don't think anymore than what has already happened will come from this. The US needs to think about changing some laws though. For example presidents giving high value staff positions to family members and friends. Maybe, just maybe that should shit should be restricted by the law.
It will probably say that Trump dodged taxes, behaved highly unethical in numerous situations (Kushner security clearance, Comey firing and so on) and was surrounded by people who were involved in numerous conspiracies to win the presidential election, in short all things where even a single one of these things probably would have gotten any other president impeached but nothing will happen apart from Trump tweeting: "Muller confirms, no collusion! Total witch hunt and waste of tax payer money! SAD! Oh and build the wall NOW!"
Let's hope it has a positive momentum.So why have this thread, and the Trump Russia thread?
That's what I think too. I do still hold a small hope that Mueller will be the end of Trump but I just don't see it. And as you put it, it'll probably end with tweets with the highest number of likes ever recorded stating how he's now proven innocent and how many millions of taxpayer money have been wasted. Money that could've funded a wall all around the US.
When the report is released it will be discussed here.
It looks like this is an anti-climatic dud. Anything remotely juicy will be redacted by Trumps AG before it even goes to Congress let alone the public.
Trump will be constantly tweeting "Mueller report said No collusion" and nothing released will contradict it. The only chance is if there are more indictments coming but its not feeling that that is on
Trump will be constantly tweeting "Mueller report said No collusion" and nothing released will contradict it. The only chance is if there are more indictments coming but its not feeling that that is on
Any word on when the report will drop?
(It is Friday and I’d love to watch the shitstorm today)
(It is Friday and I’d love to watch the shitstorm today)
If you want to follow someone who seems to have a very good undertsanding of the whole proceedings, it's @emptywheel on twitter.
She makes the case that no-one really has any idea when the report is coming and that all of the pundits are guessing.
She makes the case that no-one really has any idea when the report is coming and that all of the pundits are guessing.
You should be prepared to be disappointed. Its going to Trump's AG first who will review with Trump people and then redact anything they don't like. What ends up getting released won't be today and it won't be a shitstorm.
I bet the caf would love it. More exciting than when we got sanchez. Hopefully the report doesn't end like him!.
Looking like another false dawn.
Can’t they vote for it to be made public though? If it incriminates Trump then how is it fair to allow them to redact everything?
This was obviously always going to be a huge letdown unless you look at someone's words instead of their actions, have had your head in the sand regarding which foreign nations actually have significant control over US Politics, or you've been binge-watching Maddow since 2017.
There were so many things to investigate Trump with considering his shady business dealings and character, yet the "Resistance" went knee-deep into this Russiagate and now they'll end up with an (deserved for their incompetence) egg on their face. If Trump is indeed a Putin puppet, then Putin is the biggest idiot of all time. What a useless puppet that sends lethal arms and anti-missile tanks next to Russian border (something Obama didn't do), bombs Putin's client state in Middle East (something Obama didn't do), Withdraw from Nuclear agreement with a Russian ally in the middle east, is actively trying to engineer a military coup against Putin's client state in South America now, withdrew from nuclear treaty putting the whole world peace in jeopardy threatening start of a new expensive Arms Race (that could easily bankrupt Russia), and is adding yet more NATO members which is the organization and alliance that is Putin and Russia's biggest security fear. If Trump is indeed installed by Putin....then indeed as Ukrainians say: "Пу́тин - хуйло́" and I would add Путин идиот. On the other hand...one can look at the huge favours Trump has done for another world leader over the last 2 years...including one yesterday just as the election for that friend of Trump is approaching in 2 weeks. Now that's prime puppet behaviour.
There is no doubt that there are certain countries that continuously interfere and meddle in US Politics. Those countries have active lobbies and hold annual gatherings where people of both parties come and give speeches and pledge their alliance to the foreign nation, to the point that going against such lobbies until very recently was a Political suicide (and still perhaps is as we are seeing). Some countries interfere by "donating" millions of dollars into campaigns or Charity associations of said candidates. I can't recall an ARPAC lobby, or oligarchs donating money to political figures...but there are countless examples of Saudi princess, Qatari Amirs and Sheikhs, and Israeli donors, and more donating to American politicians or their circle through a third-party.
This is gonna be Trump's biggest win since the election....just as the enthusiasm among his "base" was massively declining, he took several Political losses...the "Resistance" through their chicken-heads and by putting all their eggs into this Russiagate basket for two years will give Trump a huge boost which could turn out decisive in shifting the momentum just as the election cycle approaches. Because Trump's momentum and energy was way down...Having said that, as of today, I still don't think it'll be enough for him, but lots of things can change until the election time, most important of all perhaps is who the Dem nominee will end up being.
There were so many things to investigate Trump with considering his shady business dealings and character, yet the "Resistance" went knee-deep into this Russiagate and now they'll end up with an (deserved for their incompetence) egg on their face. If Trump is indeed a Putin puppet, then Putin is the biggest idiot of all time. What a useless puppet that sends lethal arms and anti-missile tanks next to Russian border (something Obama didn't do), bombs Putin's client state in Middle East (something Obama didn't do), Withdraw from Nuclear agreement with a Russian ally in the middle east, is actively trying to engineer a military coup against Putin's client state in South America now, withdrew from nuclear treaty putting the whole world peace in jeopardy threatening start of a new expensive Arms Race (that could easily bankrupt Russia), and is adding yet more NATO members which is the organization and alliance that is Putin and Russia's biggest security fear. If Trump is indeed installed by Putin....then indeed as Ukrainians say: "Пу́тин - хуйло́" and I would add Путин идиот. On the other hand...one can look at the huge favours Trump has done for another world leader over the last 2 years...including one yesterday just as the election for that friend of Trump is approaching in 2 weeks. Now that's prime puppet behaviour.
There is no doubt that there are certain countries that continuously interfere and meddle in US Politics. Those countries have active lobbies and hold annual gatherings where people of both parties come and give speeches and pledge their alliance to the foreign nation, to the point that going against such lobbies until very recently was a Political suicide (and still perhaps is as we are seeing). Some countries interfere by "donating" millions of dollars into campaigns or Charity associations of said candidates. I can't recall an ARPAC lobby, or oligarchs donating money to political figures...but there are countless examples of Saudi princess, Qatari Amirs and Sheikhs, and Israeli donors, and more donating to American politicians or their circle through a third-party.
This is gonna be Trump's biggest win since the election....just as the enthusiasm among his "base" was massively declining, he took several Political losses...the "Resistance" through their chicken-heads and by putting all their eggs into this Russiagate basket for two years will give Trump a huge boost which could turn out decisive in shifting the momentum just as the election cycle approaches. Because Trump's momentum and energy was way down...Having said that, as of today, I still don't think it'll be enough for him, but lots of things can change until the election time, most important of all perhaps is who the Dem nominee will end up being.
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How is this even allowed to be possible ? Mueller : Trump colluded with Russia .
AG: Delete that sentence.
If something like this is allowed , then why even start this investigation. Something doesn't add up.
First I doubt Mueller will use the word "collude" either way because collusion is not a legal crime. Its why Trump has been saying it the whole time because no matter what he did he can't legally be guilty of "collusion" because collusion doesn't exist as a crime.
Second its the way these things work because the Democrats got so upset over the Special Counsel investigating Clinton that the rules got changed. Technically Mueller is not an independent investigator. He's still seated inside Department of Justice so the AG is technically his boss which is different than Ken Star in the 1990s.
Ok I am aware of his position, but he is still somewhat independent at what he can investigate. Which at least I thought meant that his report can go unredacted.
No. That's one of the big differences since Clinton let the Office of the Independent Counsel Act expire. Mueller is not technically an independent counsel.
Let's get ready for letdownnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!
Ugh.
Completely irrelevant, but seeing as the report is about to be the same: I saw Michael Cohen walking around midtown at lunchtime on Wednesday. That is all.
Completely irrelevant, but seeing as the report is about to be the same: I saw Michael Cohen walking around midtown at lunchtime on Wednesday. That is all.
Yep. Just got a notification from the WaPo.
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And just 1 hour later Trumpty removes sanctions from North Korea!
So....now we forget this and focus on SDNY do we. Ah well...fun while it lasted.
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I wonder how quickly Trump called Barr to ask that a no collusion statement be issued immediately.
That will have been written in May 2017.
Mueller subtly hints at Trump's fascist tendencies:
Quit objectifying the report!