The Spurs thread
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Massive opportunity for Spurs to get a CL spot. Should be an interesting fight between them, Liverpool and maybe Chelsea.
Not sure, seeing as we went for Son instead when WBA more or less blocked Berahino's departure last summer. If the asking price were to drop to well under 20m (since in January he'll only have 18 months left on his contract and still wants out) then maybe. But perhaps we'd be better off with a player who can take on something more like Kane's role if the latter gets injured ... but then it's not easy to find a good player who'd be willing to sit on the bench for most league games.
That's not what I said.
They're away in Azerbaijan on Thursday, then play at midday vs. Chelsea on Sunday. I would be peeved with that if I were a Spurs fan.
This is one of the funniest things I've read on here. And the dumbest too. Pochettino would jump at the chance to manage United.
Based on what exactly?
This is one of the funniest things I've read on here. And the dumbest too. Pochettino would jump at the chance to manage United.
Being Serious? Based on anyone in PL football with ambition and the knowledge that the club have everything in place to match that ambition better than any other club from biggest stadium to biggest transfer spend to biggest media exposure...
While all of those things are true, none of them proves that Pochettino would jump at the chance to manage United. Some managers prefer to finish the project they started, for example, and his project at Spurs is certainly looking good this year. Do you think Klopp would automatically go to United if he's offered the chance next summer (rivalry aside)? I don't think so.
Yeah God Pochettino is clearly a manager who likes to finish the projects he starts.
I think the slight flaw in your argument is that Pochettino has already jumped from his Southampton project for Spurs.
Spurs success will be down to fitness imo. Pressing is easier in the first half of the season than the second.
That said, it's an incredibly young group, doing incredibly well. Really enjoyable, so I hope they stick around near the top. But even if they don't fade heavily this year, I don't think you can do this kind of system 2 seasons in a row. Players get fatigued, mentally in particular.
That said, it's an incredibly young group, doing incredibly well. Really enjoyable, so I hope they stick around near the top. But even if they don't fade heavily this year, I don't think you can do this kind of system 2 seasons in a row. Players get fatigued, mentally in particular.
Perhaps not but he would choose United over Liverpool if both came up at the same time I'd but my life's earnings on that. He's at Liverpool now without the pressure to be involved in a title charge. That must be nice.
Not necessarily, he had reached his ceiling at Southampton (and all of his best players left) whereas that's definitely not the case at Spurs. I'm not saying he wouldn't take the United job if it was offered to him, but saying he would jump at the chance to manage United without any evidence is equally as bold as saying he'd rather stay at Spurs for a few more years.
And the slight flaw in your response is that S'hampton don't offer CL football, whilst Spurs would in the hypothetical situation under discussion.
I say again, if Spurs qualify for the CL then I'm quite sure that Poch would choose - in preference to a job offer from United - to stay with the same group of developing young players and see how far he can take them.
Some posters on here spout off as if pretty much all other clubs are poverty-stricken minnows. These posters are deluded in their belief that all players and managers are desperate to come to Manchester. Meanwhile, back in the real world ...
Again I told you this the other day that Spurs look good to qualify for the Cl this season but the manager talk is about summer of 2017 when LVG's contract runs out. There is nothing to suggest right now that Spurs would be in the Cl again considering that Chelsea will have had a chance to get back in and even Liverpool would have had a full season under Klopp. Again in your bullshit about how the world doesn't revolve around Manchester United you end up underestimating the club and anyway it's not just about United I would say the same for the City or Chelsea job. In your hypothetical world Spurs are a huge club but that isn't the case in the real world.
It's a bit silly to say that Pochettino would stay on purely because he gets to further 'develop a young squad', as the only real difference in this perspective between the Southampton Pochettino left and this hypothetical top four Spurs would be Champions League football.
It's not that this isn't a plus, it's that saying this in conjunction with a 'young squad' when Potch already left Southampton, and thinking that this overrides the extra money, resources, and prestige a bigger club would bring is a bit bizarre. We're all only guessing at what he would do, but saying he has form for jumping ship is pretty fair (Southampton were apparently furious he left and were loathe to deal with Levy in player transfers afterwards) and the reasons given so far for Spurs bucking this trend are pretty flimsy.
Spurs won't get CL this season. I'd bet my piggy bank on it. I wouldn't mind them making it (although GlastonSpur is making any sort of affection for Spurs very hard), but I actually think Chelsea will recover and get 4th.
Let's be honest here, this is your best chance to snatch top 4. Sunday is a genuinely big game for Spurs, lose and they let Chelsea back into it, win and you'll be waving them bye bye.
Interesting to see if Spurs can stop being..... spurs and take advantage of the situation they find themselves in.
I highly doubt that.
Did he wait to finish the project he started at Southampton?
See post #134.
This is such a pointless discussion. "He'd choose my club over yours". Arguing like children. Fact is none of us have an insight into the mind of Pochettino, so the notion that you're "quite sure" he would stay or that he would jump at the chance are equally ridiculous. If the opportunity came, I wouldn't expect him to readily dismiss it as it's obviously an attractive proposition and possibly a once in a lifetime chance. But I also wouldn't expect him to instantly abandon his current situation as he's got something good going with a young and talented side. That's about as far as I dare to venture.
Not really true. If Spurs lose, Chelsea will still, with goal difference, be effectively 8 points behind Spurs.
It's hardly bullshit when it happens to be true: despite your delusions of grandeur the world does not revolve around Manchester United. Nor is it hypothetical to regard Spurs as a big club in their own right: it's simply a fact borne out by a combination of history, global fan base and comparative income levels. It's also a fact borne out by the fabulous 61k stadium now under construction.
Because the premier league is competitive, United, Arsenal, City and Chelsea are in a strong position financially that means a team like Chelsea or United can miss out on top four yet come back much stronger the next season. They also seem to be sensible when it comes to transfers, unlike Liverpool's business, which has been horrible and turned them into a midtable club, with midtable players and midtable fans.
He is limited by what he can at Spurs so I find it hard to believe he would say no to succeeding Louis van Gaal if the club offered him the position considering he'd be challenging on all fronts with United.
"midtable fans"? Really?
"midtable fans"? Really?
That was far too generous.
You're clearly bottom of the league in that respect.
Poor Pochettino, having to suffer the humility of signing for the club with the 4th lowest average squad age. No wonder he'd reject us to stay at Spurs.
Yeah because he'd rather challenge for champions league qualification than challenge for the title and the actual champions league trophy…
And I didn't say all managers are desperate to come to United, otherwise I'd sooner have Pep but I acknowledge it's never easy therefore you need to look at more realistic options so you look at clubs that nobody cares about like Spurs to see if they have a manager ready for the step up.
And the reference to half decent title challenge wasn't for next season, I was saying this season Pochettino should finish fourth if he is a top manager, and he could (potentially) make a half decent title challenge because United, Arsenal or City do not look dominant therefore the points to win the league might not be as high as usual. Next season though you'd expect those teams and Chelsea to strengthen and at least one of those teams will probably look as dominant as Chelsea did last season, if that happens the best Pochettino can hope for is fourth.
Even in the hypothetical scenario he manages to secure fourth next season, I don't see how he can win the league with Spurs and so I find it hard to believe he'd decline United so he can challenge for fourth with Spurs.
"midtable fans"? Really?
At Juanfield they were silent, I thought it was poor, especially since they have this weird obsession with belief.
With goal difference, if Chelsea make up that 7 point gap, that goal difference will close as well.
I think you made the same goal difference point last year when comparing us to Southampton.
It would be such a Spurs thing to do to miss out on top 4 in a season like this.
such a stupid error.
Joint 2nd highest scorers
Least goals conceded
They're not too bad are they?
Least goals conceded
They're not too bad are they?
Our top 4 hopes depend on Spurs dropping points which doesnt look very likey at the moment.
Pochettino effect
It would be like them to miss out despite their current position but I think they'll be playing Champions League football next year. Credit where it's due to Pochettino and the time he's spent getting the squad where he wants it. I'd say they might be able to go one better if Kane stays fit but I can't see this Spurs squad winning the league as it stands.