The real funny thing is this, Man Utd, Chelsea and City have had a pretty abysmal season this year, for different reasons, based on recent premier league history. Arsenal have been Arsenal, and Spurs, with arguably the best side they have had for a while have not been able to take advantage of a no show from the usual premier league winners and have been beaten to the league by a side that were heavily backed for relegation.
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The real funny thing is this, Man Utd, Chelsea and City have had a pretty abysmal season this year, for different reasons, based on recent premier league history. Arsenal have been Arsenal, and Spurs, with arguably the best side they have had for a while have not been able to take advantage of a no show from the usual premier league winners and have been beaten to the league by a side that were heavily backed for relegation.
Of course Spurs have improved over the last few years,but that can also be largely be contributed to how poor they were in the period before then.
Chelsea on the other hand have been a consistent title challengers. Infact Chelsea have won as many trophies last season as Spurs have in the last 10 years.
Then you try and spin finishing 4th above Chelsea in 2012 as some sort of success. They finished 6th but became the only side from London to win the UCL. That meant that they were playing Champions league the next season,and Spurs relegated to the Europa league instead. Chelsea also won the Fa cup that season. Spurs won nothing. I'd like to believe that one of those two teams had a better season ,and many rational people would argue that it's the team that ended the season with two trophies.
Top 4 isn't the only measure of a team . In that 6 year period,what's the trophy count between Chelsea and Spurs?
Replace Spur by Arsenal who has been finishing in top 4 for decades, then use the same method to compare Arsenal to Chelsea, Citeh, United... With that cherry picking method, Arsenal is the best English team in the recent years. There is always next year for them to win the league. Wonder why Arsenal fans are acting like they are relegating when they have been this good comparing to Citeh, Chelsea, United... for this long? Spoiled?! While in reality they haven't won the league for a little over a decade
Advice for travel fans: Never drink tap water when being in North London.
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Replace Spur by Arsenal who has been finishing in top 4 for decades, then comparing Arsenal to Chelsea, Citeh, United... with that cherry picking method = Arsenal is the best English team. There is always be next year for them to win the league. While in reality they haven't won the league for a little over a decade
Advice for travel fans: Never drink tap water when being in North London.
I think you should try tap water, because whatever it is you're drinking is frying your brain.
So if I infer from that story that Pochettino doesn't think spurs is a big team, would I be wrong?
Oh dear
No you'd be right, that's obviously what's he's saying when asked by the Paris based radio station if he would like to one day manage his former club PSG.
What else could he possibly mean by his answer other than Spurs aren't a big team.
Sure, dream away, there's just no need to sound so cocky when you've got 69 points in 35 games.
Fill your boots and quote away the cocky stuff?
Every Glaston post?
Well, within 15 months Kane will leave (assuming that he continues being this good), and very likely Poch will leave too when the top clubs will call him (Real, PSG etc).
And then, it will be very difficult to see Spurs competing for the second place (in fact, it is very difficult to see that happening next season), which means that they will go back to their 2008-2014 form of occasionally getting the fourth place, or in other words, being a completely irrelevant and unknown club outside of England.
If Spurs were a big club, their fans wouldn't be so crazy about a <2PpG average in the league, they wouldn't be so happy about losing the title to Leicester with a draw against WBA and big clubs usually don't give up on competitions like Spurs did this season.
And a big club woulnd't have its manager say stuff like some day i wanna coach a big club.
And a big club woulnd't have its manager say stuff like some day i wanna coach a big club.
I love this big club stuff, neatly as funny as the misquoting.
i don't think we are too worried, well I know we aren't as the 14 of us got together for a beer and discussed it and we decided it wasn't worth panicking just yet.
No need to be worry, it is inevitable, so no worth the worrying.
There will come a time when Spurs fans will eventually come to terms with current trends and accept them:
* Out of last 1 seasons including this one it appears likely that Leicester will have finished above Spurs in all of them. If you consider the previous 3 season, Leicester have finished in higher league position than Spurs in 2 out of 3 (albeit one of them was in Championship)
* Prior to this season United made top 4 in all of the previous 1 seasons while Spurs have not appeared in the competition since they made top 4 in 2011, five seasons ago
* During the last 10 years Tottenham have won fewer English major trophies (PL or FA Cup) than Wigan and Portsmouth
* Chelsea finished above Tottenham in 2 of the last 3 seasons including this one and 3 in 3 if you exclude his season
* Arsenal have finished above Tottenham in 2 of the last 3 seasons including this one and 20 in 20 excluding 15-16
* Out of last 1 game versus Liverpool Tottenham did not win any
It's all about the trends baby... You may ignore them as you wish and ignore reality but the sad truth for Spurs residents is seen above.
* Out of last 1 seasons including this one it appears likely that Leicester will have finished above Spurs in all of them. If you consider the previous 3 season, Leicester have finished in higher league position than Spurs in 2 out of 3 (albeit one of them was in Championship)
* Prior to this season United made top 4 in all of the previous 1 seasons while Spurs have not appeared in the competition since they made top 4 in 2011, five seasons ago
* During the last 10 years Tottenham have won fewer English major trophies (PL or FA Cup) than Wigan and Portsmouth
* Chelsea finished above Tottenham in 2 of the last 3 seasons including this one and 3 in 3 if you exclude his season
* Arsenal have finished above Tottenham in 2 of the last 3 seasons including this one and 20 in 20 excluding 15-16
* Out of last 1 game versus Liverpool Tottenham did not win any
It's all about the trends baby... You may ignore them as you wish and ignore reality but the sad truth for Spurs residents is seen above.
Koscielny, Alderweireld, Kompany, Huth and Reid.
That's like saying if my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle.
Neither is good enough or at the same level as Godin.
Kompany at his absolute peak can get to that level, but now? Far from it.
You can even make that the last 7 games in which we've outscored them 19-5
Cold, hard, irrefutable trends. The end is nigh, Tottenham.
For someone who watches that much football, this post is batshit crazy.
Spurs fans do tend to overrate their players so it's not surprising.
Not as crazy as thinking that Godín is some sort of hybrid between Baresi and Beckenbauer.
Poor use of the word neither.
He's way better than the likes of Huth, Reid and Koscielny though. Only Kompany comes close from your list, Alderweireld needs to prove he can perform on this level for several seasons in a row, just like Godin has been doing for the last four or five years.
He isn't that, but it could be argued very easily that he has been the best CB in the world in the last 3 years.
On the other hand, try your luck to argue that any of those 5 players you mentioned has been a top 5 CB (or even top 10 for that matter).
Well, at least you have two fine defenders in Sakho and Lovren.
Kompany would have come close in 2010-2012, but since then he has been somewhere between shit and average.
If Alder plays this good for another 2 seasons, then he would still be not near as good as Godin. Maybe near as good as Gimenez assuming that he doesn't improve (IMO, he will be the best in the world in 2-3 years).
Alright I stand corrected - none of them are good enough or at the same level as Godin.
Huth and Reid would slot in effortlessly in a Simeone side. Identical play styles. Old fashioned defenders.
They will. On the bench.
If Godín was replaced with either.
Simeone must be stupidest manager ever, who let Alderweireld go to Spur while he basically would have got 2 Godin.
Feck small club mentality Athletico for getting big dog Spur bullied them for player. Sack Simeone sell Griezman.
Feck small club mentality Athletico for getting big dog Spur bullied them for player. Sack Simeone sell Griezman.
Don't try kiss up to the older members, newb.
Great comeback although it, erm, doesn't have anything to do with the discussion at all.Kompany has been derailed by injuries and of course he's had too many brainfarts recently but he's still as good as any CB out there on his day, imo. Was a rock for City yesterday for example. I agree that he hasn't been able to replicate his 2010-2012 form though, unfortunately.
Look who don't know the rule.
Last time I checked, I registered before you. Have the same likes. So posting bs in quantity is qualified as senior poster on here? Any mods can clarify?
When were you promoted though? How long were you playing for The U21s?
That's the same Alderweireld who couldn't get in the Atletico team because . . . . . he wasn't as good as Godin?
As good as Godin? fecking hell.
Just last week with 97 posts. I started playing with U12s around a month ago. I am good playing with kid you know. Was too busy with adult when I registered so couldn't post.
Need clarification for the questions in my last questions. Mind answering?
How do you know it wasn't because of Miranda?