The state of Guardiola | Regrets Redmond incident
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Nathan Redmond hates all of you.
Problem is he didnt litterary say ”your manager plays wrong”, he said in the heat of the moment that he believes in Redmond and their (Southampton) ability to play football. It is a complentary backtracking way of making him aware of what happened last time when they won against City playing football.
Weird? Not really. I bet we can find stranger conversations like these every match week. Only difference this time was that it involved the league leaders manager whose actions and words was lied about in a newspaper who’d hired a nameless ”lipreader”.
That’s where your bias shows. You think José insulting Conte and managers is ”humorous” and calling it ”the funny side to the game” but slams Pep for being complimentary to opposition players.
I failed to see where he said ”Pellegrino plays you wrong”. Is the source to this acclaim based on a lipreader?
I am sure we all have been in conversations where our words isnt meant to be taken at face value but as a mean to getting to know each other a bit better. Which is how i read this overhyped situation between Pep and Redmond. He isnt telling them how to play but voicing his opinion in the heat of the moment that this sort of play is frustrating for him as an observator.
He has apologized afterwards by the way.
Eto comes out of that interview looking like a borderline sociopath, its sickening the way the audience and other guests indulge and applaud levels of arrogant self regard in celebrities that we'd find repulsive in a child let alone an adult who should no better than to think he's centre of the universe. That's the thing though. Fellas like Eto, Ibra and Pep see something in each other that they recognise in themselves, which casts doubt on Pep's character by implication.
Absolutely, Pep puts on an 'alpha male' act, and does not like his authority questioned. Eto'o and Ibra are exactly the same and they collided.
Zlatan said that he did not like how Barca players interacted with Pep, they were like children towards him, and that was not his personality.
When you look at the way Pep acts, its almost as if he wants to do whatever he wants, but if you return the favour he won't like it. It's like he lives in his own world.
I can't stand the wankfest around him, I hate it when the press and media are up his arse, It's annoying to be honest.
Poor Zlatan. He came to a team in which he couldnt do what he wanted, insulted his manager while running riot in the dressing room whilst still believe he could play.
It is all hypocritical - Man City would be time wasting if they were winning 1-0 in a final. If Mourinho had done this the papers wouldn't be sucking upto him they would be laying into him
Redmond hoping to get tapped up with those comments! Although he does say that Pep was aggressive and he's right to point out how poor the Sun's reporting is!
Ridiculous timing for by Pep after a last minute defeat for Redmond. It certainly shows a level of arrogance and instability. It's a shame Moyes is such a poor manager because watching Peps reaction to another pressurised game on the weekend would be even more hilarious.
Ridiculous timing for by Pep after a last minute defeat for Redmond. It certainly shows a level of arrogance and instability. It's a shame Moyes is such a poor manager because watching Peps reaction to another pressurised game on the weekend would be even more hilarious.
Going to be the last time I post in this thread because it's literally just the same stuff being recycled by different people now and it's getting boring.
1. You have no fecking idea what Pep was thinking. Making a claim like he was trying to remind Redmond of how Southampton beat them is laughable, especially considering the investments and improvements City have made since. No-one who just wants to say you can play better runs out onto the pitch as fast as he did, invading someone's personal space and basically gripping him just to remind them of the time they got beat by that individual.
2. What other conversations we find is completely irrelevant. No-one has said what he said was weird, go re-read my post. People said what he said was unnecessary and the way in which he said it was weird, not that the message itself was weird.
3. It's not bias at all. I can find things funny, doesn't mean I agree with them. Conte threw some shade and Jose threw some back, I found the response funny. Do I agree with it? No, iI think it's fecking petty from both. That being said, even if I did agree with it, it has no relevance to what Pep did. Redmond did nothing to initiate it, it wasn't funny or done in jest by Pep, it was just an odd series of events. I didn't slam Pep for complimenting other players either, I criticised him for undercutting another manager's tactics as if Southampton owes him something.
4. He said that Redmond should attack more because he can attack, knowing full well those instructions came from his manager (to be defensive). If that's not him saying Pellegrino isn't using you correctly, I really don't know what is. He literally said, you can attack more and should attack more. Don't need to be a fecking rocket scientist to fill in the dots.
5. The heat of the moment? He won the fecking game in the dying minutes and his first thought is to sprint onto the field and look like a lunatic in front of one of the opposition team's players? Ye i'm not buying that shite. If anything that further proves it had a disrespectful element to it. Why not wait for the tunnels? Why not go and you know, celebrate with your fecking players or fans like another manager would.
6. Frustrating for him? He needs to fecking grow a pair then. Teams who defend deep are frustrating for all top teams, that's the nature of the game.
7. He apologised, fair enough. Essentially proving he himself acknowledged he was out of line, yet people on here are still coming around to that fact.
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Not sure what this means.
#justice4ragmond
All I can say is that if the FA can punish Pep for aggressively complimenting a player but not Lukaku for kicking out at another player then something is fecked up.
Can't argue with that but when have FA decisions concerning retroactive bans ever made sense?
And at the same time, banning mourinho for kicking a bottle and not banning guardiola for aggressively telling an opponent how to play, on the pitch seconds after the whistle is odd. But consistency at the fa is a pipe dream. For the record I don't think he should get banned for what he did, but do think it's a further sign of just how highly he regards his own opinion.
One match touchline ban for the derby imo.
Yep perfect fixture for him to move on now. Would love to have seen him ratted by another well drilled side.
Have said before and will say again, can we assume that from here on out no matter the fixture that when city lead they will continue to just attack and never waste time or try disrupt play. At old Trafford for example. Or a cup semi against Chelsea. And if sane dives and wins a penalty to win a game will pep call out and tell him to miss or condemn the anti football post match? Of course not, he's a raging hypocrite who seems genuinely to think he should have the last word on all things football.
Didn't Jose get banned this season for taking a yard out of his technical area? Would be terribly inconsistent if we didn't see Pep punished.
Another slightly unrelated point, but I'm not sure why people get precious when managers criticize cowardly park the bus tactics. Imagine being a Southampton fan and watching your team set up to entirely foil the opposition.
Don't think he did
The whole thing stinks to high heaven of a ragspiracy. They are all out to get you!
It’s not like they do that every week. If the whistle had blown a few seconds earlier they’d have been celebrating earning 50% of all points won from City this season.
They nearly got a great result and are completely entitled to do employe those tactics. In fact, I'd go so far as saying it was the sensible thing to do.
At the same time, people can criticize negative football if they want. I wouldn't do so in Pep's place simply of the vast difference in resources, but everyone can have an opinion (even if I disagree).
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He was sent off because of it.
Southampton simply play within their means, their strategy is enforced upon them due to the players they possess, those of an extremely limited skillset. City on the otherhand have a great deal of freedom with their approach to games.
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If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle (or transgender aunt)
They lost within the confines of the game defined by the referee. Why is their near-success being heralded as an accomplishment?
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, and opinions about other people's opinions. Pep is well within his right to question why a PL team is allowed to get away with such a negative approach, despite the gap in resources. People are also able to criticize Pep for speaking as the manager of a oil fueled club.
Is that not a slip on Southampton's part? And does one require lots of money to play proactively against a top club, or once you're within a certain income bracket the only means of playing is extremely negative?
Yep, we're on the same page here.
Any league team that doesn't set out with the tactic to spoil are idiots, any other tactic will result in a loss.
Which is within the rules, albeit silly. Btw, the poster was asking if he got banned.
I mean, you always want to spoil what your opposition is doing, no one lets the other team waltz into their goal.
However, it's the assumption that the only way to set up against City or any other leading team is to entirely spoil, with no aspirations of implementing something on the pitch. I would get it if it's a league 2 side in the FA Cup hoping to take the tie to penalties, however these are PL clubs we're talking about.
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I know, I was confirming that you were correct.
I know but that's the sneaky part. They don't outright lie, they just put in enough there to suggest something and create chaos. It's as low as completely inventing something.
I thought Pep was insulting Redmond in a condescending way rather than outright abuse so Peps actual words should mean very little?
The FA and their busybody ways
The FA and their busybody ways
My apologies. It's crazy to think he could have been banned for that seeing that the FA "looked further into it".
Just checked, he didn't presumably because he was sent to the stands when the incident happened itself. So really Pep should be if anyone wants to moan about consistency.
I was just joking in my comment.
I think The Sun and their lip reader should feck off.Wasn'y Jose done for praising a ref before a game last year?
It's not being held as an accomplishment, it's being used as proof that it could have worked. City went into the game averaging 3.2 goals a game while conceding 0.6 goals a game. They've rolled over virtually every single side they have played so far by a large margin.
There's not a hope in hell that teams like Southampton or Huddersfield are going to beat them playing attacking, expansive football. They've got to do what they can to snatch whatever point they can and that means digging in and parking the bus. In both cases, the teams with a little rub of the green could have taken a very unexpected point away from the game. It took a crazy deflection to beat Huddersfield and 6 minutes of extra time to beat Southampton.
It's idealist nonsense that manager's like Klopp are guilty of to think you should treat your fans by bringing the game to City. The closest any teams have got to taking points from City is by digging in, giving as little away as possible and feeding on scraps.