Top 4 race 2016/17

If you are Arsenal & can't make top four, you should ensure you don't make the Europa league. If out of Europe next season you might actually do well in the league.
It may not be a popular opinion but I agree with you. If United don't make CL this season, I think it's made worse that we are in the Europa League. Not im not dissing the EL but I think it would definitely have its benefits for next season (Example being Chelsea this season)
 
If you are Arsenal & can't make top four, you should ensure you don't make the Europa league. If out of Europe next season you might actually do well in the league.
Would their fans prefer to get 4th and have a similar season to the past 10 or go and win the Europa League? They'd be favourites for it, along with the other English team that qualified.
 
You just know that'll be the day they pull a great win out the bag and Wenger gets his extension. Although saying that...if there's any reason where the trend will finally be bucked, it's this one.
I think Spurs will be far too good for them. I think that could be another humiliating defeat for Wenger.
 
I think Spurs will be far too good for them. I think that could be another humiliating defeat for Wenger.
Spurs are yet to enter the bottling process and due a major letdown though, it's still too early but I think Arsenal have a good chance there
 
Not sure Spurs will bottle this year, they look great.
Agreed. Pochettino has a very well balanced side and it's hard to see them slowing down any time.

I think they'll end up second and win the FA Cup.
 
Did people actually think Arsenal had a chance before tonight? Said weeks back they're out of it.
 
If the top 4 changes from here then either United's run of form has been silly good through tough fixtures, or City/Liverpool were woeful through "easier" fixtures.
 
I was so optimistic untill wba game. Now i don't believe in it any more. It is not about points it is schedule.
Spurs, arsenal, city and chelsea with euro league games are too much to deal. And we need 9,10 points from those matches. One away win changes nothing.

If jose is smart then i hope and i think that will be the case, we will play with mixed team in league, resting key players for europa league.
Worst case scenario is to play with zlatan, pogba , herrera, valencia in those PL matches and draw or lose.
 
If you are Arsenal & can't make top four, you should ensure you don't make the Europa league. If out of Europe next season you might actually do well in the league.
We already won the League Cup so we have Europa League football no matter what.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.
 
I believe so due to the fa cup and league cup winners already qualifying. That's a seriously early start in the season for whoever ends up there.
Thanks mate. I hope we give at least a go in the F.A. Cup so we don't have to start the Europa League in june/july.
 
I believe so due to the fa cup and league cup winners already qualifying. That's a seriously early start in the season for whoever ends up there.

Good. The over-paid wastrels at Arsenal could do with being yanked off the beaches this summer and put straight into a sweaty boot camp.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.
Have some faith. We're only good away.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.

The way I see it, too. United would need an almighty Liverpool collapse for anything to change. We're simply not good (or positive) enough to win enough of the tough matches we've got ahead. Europa or bust.
 
Have some faith. We're only good away.
We've not been good at beating the other top teams except Spurs at home. Winning these games against the top 4 now would be a gigantic achievement, which if we were pushing for the title I'd have faith we could do and the players could deliver, however in the situation we find ourselves in not winning the EL would be a giant failure and it's clearly where our focus should be.

Looking at the teams left in the EL, the only way I can see us losing is if we tire ourselves too much from the league. We have a much, much better team than anyone else who is left and there's no excuses for not doing so.
 
It may not be a popular opinion but I agree with you. If United don't make CL this season, I think it's made worse that we are in the Europa League. Not im not dissing the EL but I think it would definitely have its benefits for next season (Example being Chelsea this season)

How to avoid qualifying for the EL? Finish 7th? I really think that is next to impossible.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.

I'm more confident about those than any home game.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.
Exactly what i was about to post...Word for word.
 
I'm not so sure. In his thousandth game they were talking about him leaving and we beat them 6-0. He seems bulletproof.

Been a bit of a turn of the tide this season though...that year he still had top four to fall back on. Not now.
 
Guess Spurs fans will be hoping we can win tomorrow.

4 points with six games to go would be squeaky bum time for Chelsea.
 
Guess Spurs fans will be hoping we can win tomorrow.

4 points with six games to go would be squeaky bum time for Chelsea.

I'll be cheering for you guys as much as I can, although even if you won they would be heavy favourites, but would be fun to watch them sweat a little for the trophy at least.
 
I'll be cheering for you guys as much as I can, although even if you won they would be heavy favourites, but would be fun to watch them sweat a little for the trophy at least.

Pressure can do funny things, we had an 8 point lead with 6 games to go.
 
Top 4 is basically dead, we're not beating Arsenal, Spurs, Man City away and Chelsea at home.

It's Europa or nothing now, commit fully and just win it, the teams left compared to previous years mean there are no excuses.

I agree.
 
Guess Spurs fans will be hoping we can win tomorrow.

4 points with six games to go would be squeaky bum time for Chelsea.

It will be, but Spurs will have two games against top six still remaining and I believe four away games, including places like Palace and Leicester.
 
Pressure can do funny things, we had an 8 point lead with 6 games to go.

Psychologically it could be huge, and you never know. But with their fixture list compared to ours we would need to be near perfect, even if they drop a game or two - tough task.
 
Spurs would be top if it werent for the Champions League earlier on in the season.
 
I can see Southampton drawing with City today and then us losing to Chelsea.