Not really. You can play with two 8s in a 4231. Anyways let's leave this thread now anyway. Tag me in Herreras thread if you want to carry this on.
Transfer Tweets - Summer 2017 | Keep it on topic
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Not really. You can play with two 8s in a 4231. Anyways let's leave this thread now anyway. Tag me in Herreras thread if you want to carry this on.
£7.5m pounds without the add ons. I could almost sell my house and buy me a Januzaj. We may never get those add ons too.
Easy decision for JM.
Where the feck do you live!
Rojo isnt due back for a while and Shaw is injured and unpredictable with his form. That leaves us needing to play Blind at LB for the start of the season in. Darmian would be cover for both full backs. I doubt we will sell both Jones and Smalling without replacing them. Maybe we sell one but not two. Especially with our injury record and who knows how Lindelof will take to the league.
Neither should be sold until Rojo makes a full recovery. We can sell one of them in January if Lindelof looks good.
You are most like right that we won't sell both, but. -
Young can cover for Valencia, he has been decent there. I think Darmian will start as our LB next season.
We can afford to discard both imo, trim the squad down to the perfect size and give Tuanzebe some opportunities.
But okay, it doesn't hurt to keep one of them, preferably Smalling as he is the most fit between him and Jones. Smalling will probably go though, as reported by the journos.
Agree with you.
Nightmare scenario is Lindelof takes a long time to adjust or flops completely, and Rojo comes back at a lower level to last seasons excellent form.
Too much risk there for us to sell either right now (especially as both of them are also quite injury prone).
Does Dier count as home grown? If he is then he is making more sense to me. English and can play in defence.
About LB, I so much want to see Mitchell tried there at least as a back up.
Nope not homegrown, which makes it even more hard to stomach his price. Both Lukaku and Pogba are though.
Not sure how you got your stats but I was more focused on the league. He played 24 times as a CM and 12 time s as a DM according to whoscored.com. Interestingly, his only goal and 7 assists came when he played CM. Herrera is far better going forward than defending. It will be a mistake to fix him in a DM position.
If, as you claim, he played more as a DM, that has to be one of the important reasons we struggled to score goals.
Rojo isn't fit and is coming back from a serious injury. We should be keeping one rather than selling both.
He plays for England how can he not be homegrown? Not saying you're wrong but this is baffling.
Played in Portugal for Sporting until he was 20.
Homegrown not about nationality but how long you've spent being trained in England before a certain age, 18 I think but not certain on age cut off.
We're definitely getting him then. Even when he's playing for us inter will still deny he's leaving
Michy Batshuayi
Need offical proof on this, not some jurno!
Exactly,
how can someone born in england playing for england holding an english passport not be english? And yes it is that simple. He may have served his time in Portugal but surely he'd fall into the bracket of being both. Where if he chose to play for Portugal he'd be considered homegrown for them but as british he is naturalised.
This is why we need Brexit. Bloody EU telling us that good British players can't qualify as homegrown just because they moved to another country at a young age...
White text?
I dont think that needs one tbh.
Its fairly evident its a joke. Its not even EU that put the homegrown rules.
I might be wrong about this but isn't it EU rules that prohibit the league from discriminating on the basis of nationality, which is part of the reason the homegrown rules work the way they do?
Because he's not home grown. He wasn't brought up in the English football system. Which is what homegrown status is. Simple. His nationality doesn't matter, it doesn't matter for any footballer, just whether they were formed in the English system.
I really am not sure.
But my point was the quoted post was a joke though, even without the white text.
You can check official premier league squads, Eric Dier is not considered as home grown player.
I think you have no clue what homegrown means. You are talking about nationality and being eligible to play for the national team of England which he is because he has the english nationality.
Homegrown status means:
A Home Grown player will be defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
Eric Dier despite being of english nationality does not qualify as homegrown because he came through the youth ranks of Sporting and has not been registered for 36 months with a club affiliated to the english football system prior to his 21st birthday. So not homegrown.
But players like Pogba, Lukaku, Fabregas despite not being of english nationality were brought up in the academies of United, Chelsea and Arsenal from a young age and they do meet the criteria for being homegrown. They however do not meet the criteria to play for the english national team as they do not qualify to get the english nationality.
So nationality and being homegrown or not they are 2 different things that are not related at all.
What the article from Le 10 says is this:
This is the smoking gun source? No quotes but certain indescreet info that City came back with a gross 18 million per month offer but rejected, sounds credible
First bit of good news in awhile from the board, end the pursuit of Bellerin and focus on a better option like Semedo - only took 2 months
Seems wholly pointless to sell either one of them in January. This window or next summer or bust.
They'll have Rudiger. Cahill, Luiz, Azpilicueta & 4 thousand youth prospects......they'll be fine I suspect
Good, hope this get this moving faster so we can see whether Matic is a viable transfer or not
£39.8m. So pathetically desperate for it to be known they paid under £40m. If United signed him they'd lump in all of the add-ons and his entire wage and the price of his Grandmother's antique clock and announce "United have agreed a £71m fee for Bakayo..."
When we sign a player the add-ons are part of the headline fee. When Chelsea sign one it's the actual fee plus mere mention of unspecified add-ons in brackets.
When we sign a player the add-ons are part of the headline fee. When Chelsea sign one it's the actual fee plus mere mention of unspecified add-ons in brackets.
Was going to say this, the reporting of add-ons seems very selective from journos. Strange