I don't, mate. I was just being a little obtuse in my reasoning is all. Hiring managers who were successes elsewhere doesn't automatically make them sure-things here, that's all.
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I don't, mate. I was just being a little obtuse in my reasoning is all. Hiring managers who were successes elsewhere doesn't automatically make them sure-things here, that's all.
Pep...
That was my gut reaction. The more I think about it, and the more I look at alternatives.... AND if he brings De Boer.... I may take back my initial reaction.
With him bringing his vast experience and De Boer the energy.... I could be swayed
why do you think he will bring De Boer?
He values three in the midfield, a holding player, a box-to-box, and a playmaker. We'll probably need three new midfield signings. 
I haven't noticed you at all, I'm sorry.
This is an utterly bizarre comment. It matters because it's a testament - the work he's doing and the philosophy he's preaching is a successful one. How on earth are you even questioning its value? It's not like he has stayed in one country his entire career living off being bank rolled by sugar daddy clubs either, or the fact that he hasn't tutored other successful managers with his methods.
Are you actually being serious here or have I missed a white text somewhere?
Ah ok then. Yeah, don't see that happening. Not this soon anyway. After he has done all he can with Bayern then maybe he'll try the EPL.
For those of you wondering about Rooneys position, here is what Van Gaal had to say in the interview I posted:
Tons more of interest in there! I considered making a thread since it's the most insight we have into how he plays/wants to play, but with 2 Van Gaal threads already I wasn't sure.
Tons more of interest in there! I considered making a thread since it's the most insight we have into how he plays/wants to play, but with 2 Van Gaal threads already I wasn't sure.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/301719.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
A post from ESPN suggesting United want to talk to VG. Sounds like echo chamber gossip that article, but I guess this is the place for the link.
A post from ESPN suggesting United want to talk to VG. Sounds like echo chamber gossip that article, but I guess this is the place for the link.
Maybe he kept reminding Hoeness to fill in his tax returns.
He values three in the midfield, a holding player, a box-to-box, and a playmaker. We'll probably need three new midfield signings.
indeed
Sneijder at last.
Care to elaborate?
Assuming van Gaal is appointed United's manager it will be interesting to see how he deals with Rooney. RvP is obviously is his darling.
He preferred formation is usually 4-3-3.
He preferred formation is usually 4-3-3.
He values three in the midfield, a holding player, a box-to-box, and a playmaker. We'll probably need three new midfield signings.
Fine by me.
Strootman, Maher and Clasie.
"Pass the Dutchie to the left-hand side..."
Think he's more flexible than that.
"My way is a footballing philosophy more than a system. A system depends on the players – I've played 4-3-3 with Ajax, 2-3-2-3 with Barcelona and 4-4-2 with AZ – but a philosophy is for life.
What are some of his best signings and players he's developed?
Total football.
Alaba, Badstuber, and Müller with Bayern.
Manchester United like continuity. We like a long term manager who will bring success AND build for the future. Bayern and Barca aim to do that too but dont put all their in the manager to do it. Different beasts
He's a true great and will do well for us, I'm pretty sure of that. He'll enjoy it here and will improve a lot of our players I imagine.
I'm not criticising, I'm just highlighting the preposterous assumption on Lance's part (he was "delighted" we may now have a manager who's won something before) that it's automatically accepted we'll be successful again in the future. Why a United fan is proud that van Gaal's Barcelona/Ajax etc. won something is slightly confusing, but I digress.
Of course it helps, yes, but it's not a guarantee.
If all managerial appointments were made solely on managers that have won things, Rodgers wouldn't have got the Liverpool gig, for example.
Something need's to happen to the Rooney situation anyway. He's not been the same player for a long time.
Plus Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol in Barca.
And signings?
He's been quite good this season?
sounds good that.
I'm unsure regarding signings, according to some posters he is quite similar to Ferguson in the transfer market, an anti-muppet.
Difficult to attribute signings to Van Gaal as he's always worked with sporting directors. Can you say Robben and Rivaldo were his signings? He's a manager who tends to work with what he's got and try and get the best out of the talented youngsters coming through the club.
Of course it helps, yes, but it's not a guarantee.
If all managerial appointments were made solely on managers that have won things, Rodgers wouldn't have got the Liverpool gig, for example.
Nothing is a guarantee, but surely it's less risk if the manager has won previously?
He's won the top devision in their respective nations with 4 different clubs, won 1 champions league and got to a final with another.
He promotes youth and total football. It's easy to get excited.. the concern is that he's incredibly arrogant and said to be divisive but short term success he's pretty much managed to achieve at every opportunity he's had (bar that short second Barca spell).
Great short term option, leads us into the area of other top managers contracts being out. Potentially in 2-3 years we will have the pick from Guardiola, Jose and Klopp who are all specialists in taking over sides that have an excellent discipline and philosophy.
I certainly will be keeping tabs on Holland during the WC now.
I certainly will be keeping tabs on Holland during the WC now.
I find the whole Van Gaal/De Boer thing to be quite exciting.
Yep I think he's been good overall and in patches our best player. But still think he's not being playing at 100%(not deliberately,just he's seem more playing in patches.)
The last two years have been manger's trying to fit Rooney & RVP into the same team and really it doesn't work. Not saying one of them has to go but I think it might need a bit of a shake up.
Holy shit. He is holding an ipad in that picture. Give him a contract now.
ugly fecker though isn't he......what cartoon character is he like?
He did not have an influence prior to his first year at Bayern. We got Robben to Munich because of him.
Prior to his second year Kroos came back from Leverkusen. And Gustavo came from Hoffenheim in winter.
I'm sorry but you're letting what happened with Sir Alex cloud your judgement. It was a very rare occurrence and unlikely to be repeated. We'l be lucky if we have managerial reigns for 5yrs or more, just the way things are.
I see, where you in Manchester United's situation would you appoint van Gaal?
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