Except get his team to the World Cup top of their group with the second highest amount of goals scored.
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Except get his team to the World Cup top of their group with the second highest amount of goals scored.
I think maybe we wanted Giggs to have his day in the sun before announcing immediately he's been 'replaced' (not really, I know but go with it) before he steps out of the tunnel this afternoon.
Yep. Klopp isn't staying at Dortmund because he has to. He's staying because he wants to.
We'd do well to keep this under wraps if we have agreed a deal. I'd like to see Giggs and his staff given a fair go without the players knowing they're on their way out.
Indeed. But he does manager the Netherlands, in fairness. It'd be kind impressive if it was Poland or something
Yep. Hiddink too was out of club football for a few years when he took over Chelsea on a temporary basis and did very well, very quickly. It's not rocket science, unless you totally disconnect yourself from everything that's happening outside the work of your national team.
Yeah, but I think Paz asked about titles mainly, and seeing as there hasn't been a tournament during his time with the Netherlands, there are no honours as such to tout.
At any rate it's clear that van Gaal isn't some "make do bloke", as some seem to think. It's ridiculous to think that Klopp would just jump ship on Dortmund right here and now, because United come calling - he seems to enjoy life there very much, at least for the next few years. It's also ridiculous to think that United will somehow be able to sign an "in it for 25 years"-manager right off the bat.
Have been with him in Munich!
The only one new would be Kluivert. But his usual assistant for the last years Jonker will be at Arsenal next season.
Is he the anti-Moyes?
For what it's worth, in that FIFA interview thats been posted numerous times LVG talks about how much he misses the day to day nature of club football. Gave the impression that he was itching to take a club job after the World Cup and he gets a lot of enjoyment from being on the training pitch and involved with the players on a daily basis.
And that bloke happens to be one of the most successful trainers of all time, with a brilliant philosophy.
Butt doesn't normally work with the first team so he might just go back to his old job with the youngsters.
Indeed. But he does manager the Netherlands, in fairness. It'd be kind impressive if it was Poland or something
He has got an impressive track record, he knows what it takes to win trophies at big clubs. Plus I think his brand of football and philosophy would be a breath of fresh air for us. He's laid impressive groundwork at both Barcelona and Bayern through giving youth a chance and imposing a style of play that dominates opponents.
I agree to an extent that as manager of Holland it's 95-99% certain he'd get them to the World Cup but he's done it in an impressive fashion nonetheless. Be interesting to see how they do in the finals.
Who cares.
We will if it disrupts our team like it always does with his hissyfits.
I would love to witness him having a hissyfit with LVG. They could sell tickets for it.
The Netherlands probably will have problems. He made a total rebuild with Robben, van Persie and Strootman as the main man. Strootman is out for the World Cup. The rest is a lot unproven young ones. And they are in a difficult group with Spain. The expectations this year are not that big. If they get out of the group stage it is seen already as a success.
Van Gaal is basically the only established manager you could get by now, isn't he?
Beggars can't be choosers.
Beggars can't be choosers.
It does get a bit much when people now invent imagined scenarios to outline how much a bastard Rooney is in our assumption of his reaction to these hypothetical situations?
What was that Harry Enfield character?
"If Rooney came in here now and shat on the floor and demanded I ate it while throwing reel after reel of unmarked fivers in my face, whistling the tune of deutschland deutschland über alles to compound my humiliation, I shall say; Oi, Rooney NOOOOO!!!"
What was that Harry Enfield character?
"If Rooney came in here now and shat on the floor and demanded I ate it while throwing reel after reel of unmarked fivers in my face, whistling the tune of deutschland deutschland über alles to compound my humiliation, I shall say; Oi, Rooney NOOOOO!!!"
He also missed it in an impressive fashion in 2002, losing out to Portugal and Ireland (not an embarresement in any way, of course, those were good sides). That's probably the one thing we'll have to get used to - any manager we appoint, now and in the future, will have behind him a career of hits and misses. Nobody's perfect and the days when we had Fergie and we knew eventually things will be fine are over.
Far too much smoke about this. It's happening.
Exactly every career will have ups and downs. The only alternative is to appoint people with limited experience, I fee Klopp and Simeone fall into that category.
I'm a bit worried actually. I really hope he doesn't take Kluivert as assistant, he might be good as an Assistant for a national team, but this is something else and I really do not think he has the mentality to be the right man.
Another thing is the players we are to bring in, we had set the bar high and was chasing great and smart players. Hope we can add some of them and not just add some promising dutch talent etc.
Another thing is the players we are to bring in, we had set the bar high and was chasing great and smart players. Hope we can add some of them and not just add some promising dutch talent etc.
In my opinion I think hiring Klopp or Simeone would be more of a gamble. I know the majority want Klopp because of his charisma and footballing ethos but van Gaal is more experienced plus he's proved himself in other leagues.
The Self Righteous Brothers, they were funny.
Astonishing that people think this guy is second best.
He is a managerial legend leading Bayern to back to back championships and the double, Barcelona to the championship and cup, Ajax to multiple championships and the champions league.
His philosophys is to play attacking football and believes his teams must entertain. He is Jose Mourinhos protégé and had him as an assistant at Barcelona.
He would improve our team 10 fold and demand respect and attention of the players. He would turn our youngsters into world class players and household names. The likes of Wilson, Lingard, Varela and zaha will be chomping at the bit.
The only concern is we loose touch with the class of 92 however I really really hope he implements them somehow and history shows in his philosophy to do that.
To me this guy guarantees a few things:
-Attacking attractive football
-Power in the dressing room
-International and European experience
-Rebuilding based on youth.
-Confidence and prowess in the press.
He is a managerial legend leading Bayern to back to back championships and the double, Barcelona to the championship and cup, Ajax to multiple championships and the champions league.
His philosophys is to play attacking football and believes his teams must entertain. He is Jose Mourinhos protégé and had him as an assistant at Barcelona.
He would improve our team 10 fold and demand respect and attention of the players. He would turn our youngsters into world class players and household names. The likes of Wilson, Lingard, Varela and zaha will be chomping at the bit.
The only concern is we loose touch with the class of 92 however I really really hope he implements them somehow and history shows in his philosophy to do that.
To me this guy guarantees a few things:
-Attacking attractive football
-Power in the dressing room
-International and European experience
-Rebuilding based on youth.
-Confidence and prowess in the press.
He ticks every box for us. His press conferences will be magic. All the press will be turning up. Jose won't like it.
I think this would be the right thing to do.
Manager: LvG
Assistant Manager: Kluivert
First-Team coach: Ryan Giggs
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Assistant Manager: Kluivert
First-Team coach: Ryan Giggs
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Just saw that The Mirror (reports coming out of Holland) are reporting that Van Gaal has agreed to be our manager but hasn't signed yet. Great news if it's true.
Van Gaal is basically the only established manager you could get by now, isn't he?
Beggars can't be choosers.
Basically, though I still think he's an outstanding appointment. It should hardly be a surprise that Klopp, Jose, Carlo and Pep weren't available given three are in their first year at big clubs and Klopp just signed an extension.
I suppose Conte counts as established but I'd much rather LVG over him.
Delighted if true.
There would be greater risks to Klopp but the dividends in case of success would also be greater. Doesn't matter, he's not interested.
I thought this part was funny:
Dutch paper De Telegraaf said on Saturday: "The national coach late last night reached a deal with the top British club.
"The man who's the absolute number one to replace axed coach David Moyes will immediately take up the job when the Dutch Eleven is knocked out of the World Cup in Brazil."
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Doesnt show much confidence in Holland doing well at the WC..
Dutch paper De Telegraaf said on Saturday: "The national coach late last night reached a deal with the top British club.
"The man who's the absolute number one to replace axed coach David Moyes will immediately take up the job when the Dutch Eleven is knocked out of the World Cup in Brazil."
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Doesnt show much confidence in Holland doing well at the WC..
Rene's gotta play a part & 1st team coaching with Giggsy would be ideal..
Your right, the Dutch are indeed not very confident after being handed the group of death. Pretty much like us they know they have a good team but also recognise they are in transition to a younger team and thus don't have any high expectations of the WC.like us they know they will be eliminated eventually the question is whether it's in the group stages or will they go further than expected and get a lucky semi sending off.I thought this part was funny:
Dutch paper De Telegraaf said on Saturday: "The national coach late last night reached a deal with the top British club.
"The man who's the absolute number one to replace axed coach David Moyes will immediately take up the job when the Dutch Eleven is knocked out of the World Cup in Brazil."
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Doesnt show much confidence in Holland doing well at the WC..
He ticks every box for us. His press conferences will be magic. All the press will be turning up. Jose won't like it.
Jose does not have problems with van Gaal. As much as I know they often phone with each other...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/live-louis-van-gaal-agrees-3459705
Van Gaal confirmed, say the Mirror (and everyone else)
..., except Sky)
.... and the Guardian
Van Gaal confirmed, say the Mirror (and everyone else)
..., except Sky)
.... and the Guardian
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So he can't start work until after the WC....
That is a big damper
That is a big damper
Atleast if we appoint him now he can have a say in signings. Plus potential signings would see that he is our new manager.
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