At the moment, the focus of Van Gaal is all about Man United. A little respect to their WC campaign should be maintained to be honest. Although this is a friendly, it's still a preparation. After this game, it will be more appropriate when the formal announcement will lead to every media outlet on the planet to want to get some quotes from the man who's going to take charge of one of the biggest football clubs on the planet.
United linked with van Gaal in the meeja
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Even MUTV are taking a part in trolling us during what's turned out to be a saga.
Edwin the Pain makes him sound like a village idiot who annoys everyone. Robin of Persia however...
Or...
Edwin: THE PAIN!!
What did MUTV say, anybody?
Nothing really, they are adverting the match just as a contest between RVP and Tony V. Bit of a coincidence though. That they chose to show this game, are they going to show any Belgium friendlies or England friendlies etc?
The public should be told that when 3-4-5 reporters twitt something within a minute of each other, they've been briefed by the club.
Oh yeah, not on the sky+ app for some reason
What's the connection to Holland though, the Crusades?
God I bet that was riveting
Cotterill trying to create a bit of to and fro with Van Gaal. They'll either become mates or Cotterill will be found in a dumpster somewhere.
No Crusade was launched to Persia. If this etymology is right it could be RVP has adventurers in his family's past, or he has ancestors who migrated from Persia way, way back, or his family sold Persian goods in their mercantile past, or they were given the nickname cos someone decided way back that they looked Persian. Could be anything really...
Persie in french means the earth's secret flower. But it's swedish.
Where do you get your info from about surnames? Maybe you're right, but I'm Dutch too and I would say Perzië is the correct translation and spelling for Persia, also known as Iran. It looks like Persie, but I wouldn't know for sure if there's a connection, could be a totally different word. And I would translate 'Van der' as 'from the', so your translations make me curious.
Also Pascal Kamperman was mentioned in this thread earlier, the 'leading Dutch journalist' who thinks Van Persie will be made captain next year is not a leading journalist at all. He is a presenter at Foxsports (Dutch Skysports) and also commentator at random, mostly low profile football matches. So I wouldn't know why he specifically would have inside info, or why his opinion is being used to create a headline.
Edit: what I found about the 'Van der Sar' family name: Edwins forefathers were named 'Sars' also spelled 'Saers' which is an abbreviation for Sanders/Sanders sons. But Saers/Sars got mistaken for a town instead of a family name, so that's why they put 'Van der', meaning 'From the' in front of it. So his name translated is Edwin From The Sanderssons ['from the' is normally used for area's but not in this case].
Van Persie might be Persian. But there's also very good chance there is a French connection, as already has been mentioned, to French region Normandy called Persiācum in Roman times. English surname form the Normandy territorial name composed of the Roman personal name Persiusof unknown meaning and the local suffix -ācum led to the sure name Percy.
source: http://www.meertens.knaw.nl/nfb/det...&info=analyse en verklaring&operator=ew&taal=
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1. Signing Van Gaal is like signing Messi for me. Its a dream coming true.
2. RvP will 100% be captain and Rooney has no chance at all. He has a big article about why and who he makes captain of the team prior to choosing RvP for The Netherlands. can't find it atm, but it basically rules out Rooney.
2. RvP will 100% be captain and Rooney has no chance at all. He has a big article about why and who he makes captain of the team prior to choosing RvP for The Netherlands. can't find it atm, but it basically rules out Rooney.
United drop Van Gall hint
\http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...news/manchester-united-drop-louis-van-7132339
\http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...news/manchester-united-drop-louis-van-7132339
Darn, I really was hoping his name meant Edwin the Pain. Really hope Robin of Persia turns out to be true.
so he wants Evra to stay....
Isn't Persia spelled as Perzie in Dutch? I'm pretty sure Persie means something else entirely. I could be wrong, though.
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On the basis of his performances, no he isn't in my book. End of story.
I haven't made up anything.
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To Amsterdam, to give Aloysius Paulus Maria Van Gaal a nudge. The wait has become longer than his name...#mufc
6:15 a.m. Sat, May 17
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To Amsterdam, to give Aloysius Paulus Maria Van Gaal a nudge. The wait has become longer than his name...#mufc
6:15 a.m. Sat, May 17
What's that supposed to mean? He's going to interview Van Gaal?
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink has to be one of the best.
Or they just quickly jump on the bandwagon started by the first to be able to boast they knew it first...
I think it mean's they are all taking turns to badger him, rather than 1 person getting banned completely
Just saw that interview from yesterday outside the training camp, Sky's Gary Cotterill is completely shit scared of him.
OK, each to their own, but you're certainly in a minority. Here are his positions in the POTM rankings (which accumulate the MOTM rankings):
April: 4th
March: 1st
Feb: Not listed
Jan: Injured
December: 2nd
November: 1st
October: 2nd
September: 1st
There's no question in most people's books that he's had a good season. And in terms of the "way" he plays, I can't see how you can argue that he's captain material. If left to his own devices, he is all over the pitch, trying to make stuff happen.
RVP is a great striker, but he's not nearly as involved in the match as Rooney. Even if he is a better player, you don't just make your best player captain, you pick the one who leads most on the pitch.
Fowler thinks Van Gaal is too old for United for some reason.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/lou...manchester-united-robbie-fowler-30280249.html
http://www.independent.ie/sport/lou...manchester-united-robbie-fowler-30280249.html
I honestly don't think so. Maybe the really bad ones, but I even wouldn't put the United reports the Daily Mail and the Mirror have in that group. You wouldn't just repeat what someone just twitted as fact without getting the info yourself.
Also for those that haven't read, he thinks we should have appointed Giggs
He's running scared.
He is the best. Miss the man. He will be a show at United. IF one asks "Why not Giggs, the next Guardiola" it will be funny.
Great to have him back in a media landscape I can understand.
Great to have him back in a media landscape I can understand.
Football pundits are so bloody dim
He's saying little not said on here.
Always amused how people believe the "he knows the club" factor matters, as if we're hiring babysitter who knows where the towels are kept rather than a football manager. I think it all boils down to how little stock English fans put into the importance of coaching or a manager. It's the same mentality that sees youth teams being coached by whoever it is happens to have the fan to transport the kids around.
Says it all.
Exactly, he's one of the World's top managers, of course he'd rather we had Giggs. He probably also thought Moyes should have been given more time to ensure they had a good run at the top 4 next season.
For some resson, I read this as "United drop Van Gaal" when this appears on my FB feed. For a split seond i almost had a heart attack. Phew. lol
while not an advocate of Giggsy getting getting ear main job, I think you and some on here are ignoring what Giggsy knows exactly in football, coaching and management, other thknowing where the towels are and where the manger's room is.
Let me explain my view, Giggsy has been at United for 26 yers under one manager, who who is truly the special one earning us 13 League titles in 20 years. There is no one football manager like him, and Giggs has been managed by this great man (Ole was the one who took notes as a player and he knew he's going into management. One has to really watch Ole's interview how he attribute his own management and coaching knowledge and skill to what he learned from Fergie over the years whilst a player. Ole's success in his job as a manager was for all to see taking Molder to glory for the first time in their 100 year history.)
Giggsy is not Ole, and he had not coached the United youth/reserved team like Ole, and Norwegian team is not exactly the PL Granted. But for Chris sake, Giggsy is the most decorated player we have and he's seen what Fergie did and how he handled players. If he is not a stupid person, he already had gained some experience albeit just as a player, to pave the way for his future endeavour. He would certainly be able to assist a new manager who has no experience in the English PL and in the British scene and if we want instant success, Giggs can play a good part.
Give him a chance. He will be particularly useful when the WC will occupy Van Gaal for the coming six weeks if Holland is progressing. Giggs can impliment a lot in the background what Van Gaal wants for the next season during this period as well. It's all good.
But if you're still not convinced, never mind, we can agree to differ.
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...all the ABUs were gutted when Moyes was sacked....they will be even more gutted with van Gaal's appointment.
....just wait til he lines up the players he is bringing in
With all due respect, his decorations for footballing reasons are completely irrelevant and I doubt very much that Van Gaal cares about how Fergie handled the players. World class managers don't usually go in asking how other managers did things so that they can do it the same. Their own arrogant/blind belief in themselves ways of doing things is what separates them and makes them great.
Van Gaal is more than capable of learning on the go how to make Uniteds way fit his ethos and his ideas.
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