US Politics

RoyH1 said:
My belief is that its the blue states that will one day say pheck it, we're out of here. And the breakup will not be into a red vs blue, but 5 or 6 blocks. I can totally see Texas going alone.
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Said this for years, that this country will divide itself into five or six blocks of former states. It will be messy & fluid.
 
Pexbo said:
If the blue states initiate it, you’ll have civil war, terrorism and guerrilla warfare in a very short period of time as many of the red states slip into abject poverty without the blue state funded federal handouts.
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Scariest thing for me would a fundamentalist Christian theocracy with nuclear weapons and aircraft carriers.
 
nimic said:
The Republicans are evil, but the Democrats have had decades to make sure it's passed into law (like every other first-world country, and many of the others). This is just the logical consequence of the supremely fecked American system of governance. First past the post + winner takes all, the electoral college, judicial supremacy, filibuster, and everything else.

It barely functions as a country anymore.
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Wouldn’t making it a law be even more dangerous. As in, the next time Republicans control both chambers and the presidency, not only they can unmake the law, but make abortion illegal by passing a new law (which would be close to impossible as long as the filibuster is there)? So it probably made sense for it to be protected by the Supreme Court. But not anymore now that lunatics control it.

Dems are in a shitty position, especially with Mancin and Sinema there. Best bet would have been to put another 2 liberal justices in court and change the verdict again (partially to make a mockery of the system) but a) I don’t think Mancin and Sinema would accept that and b) GOP will do the same next time they control presidency and senate, probably as early as 2025.
 
I just hope that the Democrats can eventually gain a couple more senators so they can finally expel Sinema and Manchin out of the party. Those 2 clowns have done more than enough damage already, those two-faced goblins.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
I just hope that the Democrats can eventually gain a couple more senators so they can finally expel Sinema and Manchin out of the party. Those 2 clowns have done more than enough damage already, those two-faced goblins.
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Manchin still votes much more with Dems than the Republicans, and he is arguably the only Democrat who can win West Virginia. So even if he does not vote for most extreme Democrat measures (which there is nothing to suggest that the Dems are planning to do anyway), he is still a net positive for them.

Sinema on the other hand would be nice to get replaced. As Kelly showed, a Dem can win Arizona (who also voted Biden).
 
shamans said:
Some issues matter more than "majority wants it".

if 49% are fighting for their lives vs a 51% majority that are "meh" about an issue, how is it fair?
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I am not saying it is fair, or perfect, or even particularly good. Just that far better than any other system our species ever devised.
 
Revan said:
Wouldn’t making it a law be even more dangerous. As in, the next time Republicans control both chambers and the presidency, not only they can unmake the law, but make abortion illegal by passing a new law (which would be close to impossible as long as the filibuster is there)? So it probably made sense for it to be protected by the Supreme Court. But not anymore now that lunatics control it.
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Sure, but that's just democracy. The purpose of Congress has to be to pass legislation. Otherwise you're just passing the problem on to an even lower number of people, and as you point out it's not like that avenue is looking too hot for abortion rights right now.
 
nimic said:
Sure, but that's just democracy. The purpose of Congress has to be to pass legislation. Otherwise you're just passing the problem on to an even lower number of people, and as you point out it's not like that avenue is looking too hot for abortion rights right now.
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Yup, I tend to agree with this. Supreme Court writing laws instead of legislators doing so is pretty crazy.
 
Revan said:
Manchin still votes much more with Dems than the Republicans, and he is arguably the only Democrat who can win West Virginia. So even if he does not vote for most extreme Democrat measures (which there is nothing to suggest that the Dems are planning to do anyway), he is still a net positive for them.

Sinema on the other hand would be nice to get replaced. As Kelly showed, a Dem can win Arizona (who also voted Biden).
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Agreed. I'm annoyed when people equate the two. WV is Trump heartland so Manchin has no choice but Sinema is choosing to be a prick.
 
Tyrion said:
Agreed. I'm annoyed when people equate the two. WV is Trump heartland so Manchin has no choice but Sinema is choosing to be a prick.
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They are no different from each other. Both money-grabbing grifters
 
Abortion news is pissing me off :mad:

If Joe had balls, he'd nominate a couple of extra SCJs to tip the scales. This is why you vote as left you can. You cant pretend nothing happened, you'll lose in the long run. You need extremes to unfeck things the GOP feck up whenever they're in power.
 
VanDeBank said:
Abortion news is pissing me off :mad:

If Joe had balls, he'd nominate a couple of extra SCJs to tip the scales. This is why you vote as left you can. You cant pretend nothing happened, you'll lose in the long run. You need extremes to unfeck things the GOP feck up whenever they're in power.
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But if he does that then the Republicans can just do the same when they take over and it becomes a race to who knows what.
 
RoyH1 said:
But if he does that then the Republicans can just do the same when they take over and it becomes a race to who knows what.
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Remember when they blocked a SCJ nomination 'till after the presidential election?
They already don't play with whatever unwritten rules are set.

I'd rather not have impoverished women needing to drive a 1000 miles to get an abortion.
If it hold only while the Dems are in charge, fine, I take that quality of live improvement for that short period of time.
 
RedDevilQuebecois said:
Did he just snort cocaine?
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Footage, alleged to be of Don Jnr, shortly before that clip was filmed.

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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/haiti/article260808987.html

The undercover work of former U.S. government informants suspected of plotting to kill Haiti’s president has compelled Miami federal prosecutors to seal off evidence about their past activities in the interest of U.S. national security, saying the information is classified and cannot be turned over to the defense in the widening investigation.

The decision means that the U.S. criminal case, which has run parallel to a faltering probe in Haiti, could become even more secretive in the United States and leave a trail of unanswered questions about how a group of Colombian commandos, a former FBI informant connected to a Miami-area security firm and two ex-Drug Enforcement Administration informants all came to be accused of participating in the deadly assault.
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Unlike the Russians floundering with Zelensky, the US still knows how to get stuff done.
 
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