Vodafone

To clarify, Vodafone do NOT have to pay United a penny as there is a mutual opt out clause each season.

THis on face value appears good news, but I seriously dont think it will make any long term difference as another sponsor will be found. Albeit at a lower income level to the one Vodafone have had.

Coca Cola will be a no go, as that would obviously alienate Pepsi who are the official drinks sponsor, and to put all your eggs into one basket would be suicide from the clubs point of view.

I actually suspect that Glazer may try and opt for a large american company such as Ford, who already know about Man United through their European markets, or as someone even suggested ( even jokingly its worth considering) Macdonalds.

One thing that will be considered will be a dual shirt/stadium sponsorship. I dont think they will go for an all out name change of OT, but I think its possible that the Glazers will try and negotiate sponsorship of say the North Stand. If that is succesful they will then extend it to other areas.

My first reaction was "fecking great" but after reading what has been said, I think that United and Vodafone are both looking for bigger fish and they have both decided to end the deal early. Nothing too drastic in this I am afraid

Mind you I could be wrong and Vodafone have seen the light and given Glazer the big "feck OFF". But somehow I doubt it.
 
fredthered said:
To clarify, Vodafone do NOT have to pay United a penny as there is a mutual opt out clause each season.
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They're paying us £7m in compensation.
 
Spoony said:
They're paying us £7m in compensation.
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I stand corrected. I know that NIke do have that option available, and I am pretty sure Vodafone had the same clauses added in the last negotiations.

Mind you £7 million is still not going to make much difference at all.
 
fredthered said:
I stand corrected. I know that NIke do have that option available, and I am pretty sure Vodafone had the same clauses added in the last negotiations.

Mind you £7 million is still not going to make much difference at all.
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Then again, £7m compo and a new commercial partner on the way......I see what they've done there.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Although they will know that all those families and people who buy a new shirt every season will go out an replace every kit now to keep up to date, and they won't have any complaints about that.
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i think you are right there.
i also think it will be a major american brand who they choose.
this was probably on the cards when they first tried to buy the club, part of the long term financial plans...
like they said (glazers) "debt means different things to different people".
 
MrMarcello said:
Perfect sponsor.

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I live in Mississauga! Never thought to see it on the Caf :lol:
 
Do you really think that McDonald's can come with an offer? :lol: They don't need any adverts and logo on our shirt.

It will be a company that need to promote their products, McDonald's, Microsoft etc. don't need it. Stop the panic.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
Although they will know that all those families and people who buy a new shirt every season will go out an replace every kit now to keep up to date, and they won't have any complaints about that.
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Wont affect the Glazers or United as all the shirt revenue goes to Nike, as part of their sponsorship deal.

THey pay United a fee and they get all the kit merchandise sales, so everyone on this planet could buy a new United shirt and it wouldnt help Glazer as he would see nothing more than what Nike pay United.
 
Sarni said:
It will be a company that need to promote their products, McDonald's, Microsoft etc. don't need it. Stop the panic.
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If that is the case, why doesn't McD's and Microsoft stop all promoting then?
 
Sarni said:
Do you really think that McDonald's can come with an offer? :lol: They don't need any adverts and logo on our shirt.

It will be a company that need to promote their products, McDonald's, Microsoft etc. don't need it.
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Corporate firms dont just sponsor to sell products, they do it to raise awareness and to promote their brand as something similar to the one they are sponsoring. So Microsoft might sponsor United, to promote the fact they are the largest in their field, in the same way United are.

Realistically how many people actually buy a shirt and look and think "feck me its a nice shirt, I am going to buy the Nike Trainers to go with it".

It doesnt work quite like that.
 
Fred is spot on. They want you to think. "United"...."Vodafone!".....

If you want to buy a car you think Merc, BMW, Ford, Audi...United...
 
fredthered said:
I stand corrected. I know that NIke do have that option available, and I am pretty sure Vodafone had the same clauses added in the last negotiations.

Mind you £7 million is still not going to make much difference at all.
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Well they gave us £9m a year. So it's not bad. And I see no reason why they can't get a similar sponsorship deal.
 
It's image forming. If Microsoft tie themselves in with United, they are hoping that some of United's image and reputation will rub off on their brand, and people will think better of it.
 
Keane16 said:
It's image forming. If Microsoft tie themselves in with United, they are hoping that some of United's image and reputation will rub off on their brand, and people will think better of it.
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Heard today that Microsoft may move to Manchester. Head office for the UK perhaps Europe. Whatever it is it's going to be major.
 
fredthered said:
Corporate firms dont just sponsor to sell products, they do it to raise awareness and to promote their brand as something similar to the one they are sponsoring. So Microsoft might sponsor United, to promote the fact they are the largest in their field, in the same way United are.
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I have to admint that you may be right about Microsoft.

Still can't see McDonald's promoting on our shirts, they don't need it. You'll never think "ooh, McDonald's, I saw their logo on United shirt', I'm sure about that.

However, I'm still rather sure that our next sponsor will be rather a company that needs to promote brand, not connect it with United the way you guessed.
 
Sarni said:
I have to admint that you may be right about Microsoft.

Still can't see McDonald's promoting on our shirts, they don't need it. You'll never think "ooh, McDonald's, I saw their logo on United shirt', I'm sure about that.
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We'd have to sign Patrick Berger......
 
We have to get sponsers for the shirts, it would cost United money not too. I mean we'd have to replace all the white seats which spell out Vodafone and draw out the logo in the stadium. That would bankrupt the club.....

I'm not bothered about who we get, though I would really like the club to try and make it a company with Manchester connections. Sharp had it's head offices in Newton Heath when they signed the first deal, so it had a local connection. Something like that wouldn't be to bad, but of course any new sponser will have gotten into bed with the Glazers and thus would anyone local really want that??

This could be the start of something ya know.
 
GroundSide said:
It's got to be, Spoony....i'd even buy a shirt if it had Greggs on the front. They might be able to sort out a decent pie and pastie so I can have a scran at half time...
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I recommend the extra large Cornish Pastie. Nice and greasy!
 
GroundSide said:
It's got to be, Spoony....i'd even buy a shirt if it had Greggs on the front. They might be able to sort out a decent pie and pastie so I can have a scran at half time...
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I'm well hungry now. Need some scran.

Which other local business' could sponsor us?
 
Tribec said:
We have to get sponsers for the shirts, it would cost United money not too. I mean we'd have to replace all the white seats which spell out Vodafone and draw out the logo in the stadium. That would bankrupt the club.....

I'm not bothered about who we get, though I would really like the club to try and make it a company with Manchester connections. Sharp had it's head offices in Newton Heath when they signed the first deal, so it had a local connection. Something like that wouldn't be to bad, but of course any new sponser will have gotten into bed with the Glazers and thus would anyone local really want that??

This could be the start of something ya know.
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Vodafone were local, too.
 
Anyone but McDonald's, I would hate to see fred the red's face when he's told he's been sacked for these guys.


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When I first heard the news, I was shocked - it was reported as though this was a sign of our demise as a club.

In reality, it is no such thing. The fact that vodafone will continue to be one of our Platinum partners attests to this. As does the fact that they will be sponsoring the Champions League which would create a conflict of interests.

I see no reason why we cannot attract a sponsor willing to pay the kind of money Chelsea received. Although they are the team on the up, they are still a small club.

For the right company, our club has much more to offer through association because of our history.
 
One other thought crossed my mind. I think there is a ice hockey team in the NHL that is sponsored by a Major League Baseball Team - I think this deal is the first of its kind.

I also remember someone saying back in the summer that Glazer could not use the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as insurance / collateral (whatever the right word is!) against the United debts.

Could a way around this be to have the Bucs sponsor us as a club? Would he then be able to move funds between the clubs?

No idea if this would comply with any legal laws but there have been many posters in the past with a far firmer grasp of the law than I do, so would be curious to hear from them!
 
TheRedFlag said:
Had you mean Yaps?
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I ment to say Nike not Umbro.

Basicly when the contracts are signed, there are loads of clauses.

One of them which Nike and Vodafone have are that should something happen within the club such as a take over, they are allowed to relook at the position of the club and decide whether it is beneficial for themselves to stay as sponsors, and if they want out, then so be it without having to cough up a penny.

The rumour that Vodafone were reconsidering was out ages ago when Glazer threatened to take over, it was only a matter of time after he had that they would leave, and now they have.

However where one sheep goes, the rest will follow, Nike will be next.

I'm not a doom or gloom merchant, but unfortunatly the take over will cause things like this, and Vodafone won't want to be associated with a club with a huge debt and where fans are causing issues over take overs and so forth.
 
yaps said:
I ment to say Nike not Umbro.

Basicly when the contracts are signed, there are loads of clauses.

One of them which Nike and Vodafone have are that should something happen within the club such as a take over, they are allowed to relook at the position of the club and decide whether it is beneficial for themselves to stay as sponsors, and if they want out, then so be it without having to cough up a penny.

The rumour that Vodafone were reconsidering was out ages ago when Glazer threatened to take over, it was only a matter of time after he had that they would leave, and now they have.

However where one sheep goes, the rest will follow, Nike will be next.

I'm not a doom or gloom merchant, but unfortunatly the take over will cause things like this, and Vodafone won't want to be associated with a club with a huge debt and where fans are causing issues over take overs and so forth.
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You sure sound like a doom and gloom merchant to me.

To say that vodafone won't want to be asociated with United is rubbish - from what I understand they will remian one of our business partners.

This has more to do with them sponsoring the Champions League than it does any loss of form on the the teams part.

I also don't believe Nike will be going anywhere. You have to remember that they have far more invested than simply making the kit.
 
GroundSide said:
It's got to be, Spoony....i'd even buy a shirt if it had Greggs on the front. They might be able to sort out a decent pie and pastie so I can have a scran at half time...
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Youve had it with that one the sponsor Ashton or their ground they even have a Greggs shop in the ground
 
swooshboy said:
To say that vodafone won't want to be asociated with United is rubbish
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Then why leave...

Business partners aka providing the odd mobile here and there.
 
swooshboy said:
I also don't believe Nike will be going anywhere. You have to remember that they have far more invested than simply making the kit.
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I've heard they get all the profit from the megastore. I wonder if it's true. That'd be a million quid every matchday.
 
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