Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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It was one fecking game! he hasn't stopped playing him all season, has he?
What's the contract situation like, 2 and a half years or 3? Even though time is always the same, Rooney's contract always seems to hit that 2 year mark which is the limit for worldies under 32/33.
I'm on the side who firmly believes he's got everything he demanded in 2010 and don't believe for one minute that he'll be leaving unless its a near-record breaking deal.
Players know the starting line up before they get on the coach as far as I know, itv showed the images of him looking happy and up for it in the tunnel as they left the coach. These fabricated stories with Roy Keane's ridiculous comments have failed to worry any United fan with an ounce of sense. Now if you're an idiot, believe it...he's leaving.
I'm on the side who firmly believes he's got everything he demanded in 2010 and don't believe for one minute that he'll be leaving unless its a near-record breaking deal.
Players know the starting line up before they get on the coach as far as I know, itv showed the images of him looking happy and up for it in the tunnel as they left the coach. These fabricated stories with Roy Keane's ridiculous comments have failed to worry any United fan with an ounce of sense. Now if you're an idiot, believe it...he's leaving.
It was one fecking game! he hasn't stopped playing him all season, has he?
What? Why?
The theory is that he was so 'distraught' on Tuesday night because it was his last chance, on account of having decided to quit at the end of the season. It's not the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, but I actually think Tuesday guarantees he won't be going anywhere in the near future.
What bollocks. Soon the media will be claiming hes on £700k a week and that we will sell him for £2m.
The media have consistently increased his wages over the 2 years from around 150k to 300k. They just love to throw random figures out there.
Nowhere near similar. They havent fallen out, fergie has not kicked a boot at his head.
He chose rooney not to play 1 game from the startwhere is the big deal here i dont understand.
Again, according to Miguel Delaney, they did have a fall out at the start of the season when Rooney came back unfit. I guess the Beckham similiarity is obvious because he left him out of a game against Madrid too. How did he handle RVN before he let him go? I can't really remember to be honest.
Unless he hadn't decided he wanted him gone until this season? Let's face it, when Rooney had the contract dispute he really was indispensable to the team. He is much less so now, particularly if we signed a replacement in the summer.
He was dropped for pretty much the entire run-in, starting with the League Cup final. It sucked, by Saha was in great form and, unlike Rooney, Ruud had clearly pissed Fergie off.
Yea it wasnt that long ago since 200k a week was a controversial, unconfirmed number the media threw about, and now they have decided hes managed to up his wage to 300k a week somehow.
And the sale prices being thrown around
20-25m for Rooney, while Bale is apparantly in for a "summer swoop" of at least £60m.That these rumours are taken seriously is laughable
Ian Holloway is spot on once again. The media are pathetic.
What? Why?
What? Why?
What? Why?
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Good effort but you're no Striker10.
He was just really eager to know why.
Yea it wasnt that long ago since 200k a week was a controversial, unconfirmed number the media threw about, and now they have decided hes managed to up his wage to 300k a week somehow.
And the sale prices being thrown around
That these rumours are taken seriously is laughable
£20 million is a ridiculous figure now, if his contract gets to within 10/6 months of running out with no intrest in resigning though.....we'd have to at least consider it.
No. That specific paper talked about selling him this summer for 20m when he'd have 24 months left on his contract.
I'd have thought RVP would have been a good benchmark for Rooney's value, 25 mil in a contract-running-out scenario seems right.
I know and as I said its not anywhere near enough.
Theres a difference, when we are buying the price invariably goes up. And if its a choice between 20 million or letting him walk for free its not too low.
If he does want to go, which I severely doubt, then it would be a hilarious turn of events. Two years ago he accuses us of not having enough ambition when buying players, so we buy the best striker in the league and he gets upset because he can play. Be careful what you wish for Wayne.
Again, according to Miguel Delaney (who I keep referencing because he was accurate when talking about our transfers last summer) we're actually looking for 35-40m this summer. He reckons we'll have a hard time finding a buyer for that price though.
I have no idea what's going to happen with Rooney at the end of this season. Way back when I thought we were crazy to sell Stam, then sell Forlan (he had been hitting good form before the transfer) and then sell Ruud. So crazy things do happen in this business.
But I've watched the game again and fukk me if it wasn't a mistake not to start Rooney, or at least bring him on instantly after the Turkish kunt ref made hi call. Rooney was in white hot form (two assists and a screamer goal over teh weekend), has gobs of CL experience, defends like a madman, and has been known to create and score a few goals here and there.
But I've watched the game again and fukk me if it wasn't a mistake not to start Rooney, or at least bring him on instantly after the Turkish kunt ref made hi call. Rooney was in white hot form (two assists and a screamer goal over teh weekend), has gobs of CL experience, defends like a madman, and has been known to create and score a few goals here and there.
I can see what Fergie was thinking, we needed quick players on the counter attack, and more importantly, players who can dribble at speed and beat players one on one. He picked the right players for this, i.e. Welbeck, Nani and to a lesser extent Giggs.
Rooney might be a lot of things, but he's not the greatest dribbler at speed, and was highly unlikely to go past players the way Nani was doing. Against Real we needed pure pace, tight dribbling and ability to break quickly, Rooney just didn't fit the bill.
I'd still have played him though, because of his big game ability.
Rooney might be a lot of things, but he's not the greatest dribbler at speed, and was highly unlikely to go past players the way Nani was doing. Against Real we needed pure pace, tight dribbling and ability to break quickly, Rooney just didn't fit the bill.
I'd still have played him though, because of his big game ability.
Rooney's clearly seen all this in the papers. If I was him I'd go straight on to Twitter and rubbish them. Not saying him not doing so means something, but still annoying that he's not using what could be a great tool to shut the press up.
He did it the last time and maybe he'll do it again. Or he just doesn't care about nonsense stories now.
Probably that shitc**t of an agent trying to work out how to arse rape the club for a few sheckles more over this.
Maybe it's because SAF instructed everyone not to talk to the media? All Rios tweeted since the game was something about the fans on the night being the best he's ever heard and nothing else.
Fridays press conference is going to be interesting...
sorry I've been keeping ther head down since Tuesday
what is actually going on or is this all just talksport skyle nonsense and making a story out of a tactical decision
what is actually going on or is this all just talksport skyle nonsense and making a story out of a tactical decision
I'll admit to having not seen the Norwich match, but so many people during the game and afterwards actually talked about how lousy Rooney was for long periods. I know he hit a screamer when the game was already decided and previously set up a couple of goals, but if he had one of those games where he loses the ball tons of times, then I can see why Fergie decided it wasn't what he needed for Real.
It's possible. The interesting thing about the papers all coming out with their crap right now, is how similar their crap is. So someone has obviously been feeding them something.
Rooneys performance against Norwich was fine
don't undertand how anyone could say that
don't undertand how anyone could say that
Having read the caf for years, this is genuinely one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen. Why is everyone buying this complete bullshit? Rooney isn't in a period of bad form, and relations between him and the club are excellent. The only reason anyone's even considered the possibility of him leaving is one game on the bench, for reasons which are obviously tactical.
Bringing up things which happened years ago and which are clearly in the past for all concerned (apart from weird fans who like to think Fergie is like the Godfather) doesn't mean that anything other than that one benching has happened to suggest this. And as the GIF above shows, Rooney clearly hadn't fallen out with Fergie over it or anything. So why are those rubbishing it as space-filler for some second-rate sports websites the ones being treated as if they're not living in the real world?!
The whole 'if you cross Fergie, you leave eventually' thing is laughable, up there with the 'if Fergie says a player is injured, we're selling them and it's a part of some master plan too ingenious for us even to comprehend it' lunacy.
Bringing up things which happened years ago and which are clearly in the past for all concerned (apart from weird fans who like to think Fergie is like the Godfather) doesn't mean that anything other than that one benching has happened to suggest this. And as the GIF above shows, Rooney clearly hadn't fallen out with Fergie over it or anything. So why are those rubbishing it as space-filler for some second-rate sports websites the ones being treated as if they're not living in the real world?!
The whole 'if you cross Fergie, you leave eventually' thing is laughable, up there with the 'if Fergie says a player is injured, we're selling them and it's a part of some master plan too ingenious for us even to comprehend it' lunacy.
It was more than fine, it was outstanding. He ran the entire game and got two assists and a goal. He's in superb form at the moment.
It's all bollocks. They'll print anything about Rooney.
And that is the point, that it was a "big game". We always we knew it would take at least two goals to win the game. How many last third creators did we have on the pitch in the first half? Nani for sure. That's about it.
True, it almost worked. And give Fergie credit for trying something risky, benching your best player (or second best, if you're thinking RvP is our best player) and benching a player whose form was exactly where you'd want it going into a big game like this.
A shame, though, as we now have to deal with a situation where one of our top players now has to wonder whether he's the next Ruud or Beckham, a dead man walking. We posters have no idea and for all we know Alex and Wayne may have played a round of golf in Qatar yesterday. Let's just pray that the extent of the damage by not playing Rooney until very late is that we got dumped out of the CL.
Is he? I don't remember his previous performances - like QPR as a sub, Bernabeu, Everton - as being anything special.
"Superb form" is exactly right. I need to get over this, but the more I think about the decision to drop Rooney the more I realize it was an absurd decision.
Give credit to the XI who fought brilliantly, had the lead before the red and almost squeezed out an improbable win but for outstanding keeping by Lopez, but dropping Rooney, who was in superb form, did nothing to improve our chances of beating Real.
Oh well, shit happens.
If we're lucky and play it smart, we'll be able to cut our losses asap and get Bale for Rooney+£20m
The media haven't really messed with his wages figure....since he signed, it's been "worth up to 250k" which is with incentives and marketing stuff. He's on the same as RVP if just taking into account straight up guaranteed weekly wage, which is widely reported to be 180k.
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