Tell Chelsea to throw two players in along with £30. I would take Mata and Luiz(just to piss Barca off). No players, no Rooney.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Just think how sweet it will be if you sell us Rooney and still beat us to the league title with a local guy like Welbeck or a fan favourite like Hernandez stepping up and banging in the goals.
In other words, don't be scared, you are Manchester United, sell him to us.
In other words, don't be scared, you are Manchester United, sell him to us.
See, the Chelsea fan has more balls than some of you...........bunch of pussies.
I think we can manage without him OK, the worrying aspect is how much he will strengthen you.
I seriously hope this guy stays now even more. With the bad news about Fab - we need to keep these star names. fecking change your mind Wayne mate.
Who gives a flying feck about 'star names'?
I'm actually in total agreement - I've said before (in this thread I think) that I want him gone, and I don't want a direct replacement, as it's hard enough for the two you mention anyway.
(Not that either is looking likely but) if we could get a Ronaldo or Fabregas, who would both add to our attack in different ways, and as long as we strenghten the midfield, then I'm more than happy to go into the season with RVP, Hernandez, Welbeck and Henriquez up front. We'll probably only play one striker anyway!
But... you've got to pay proper money for him. no way we're getting raped by the fat scouser and your Russian crook. £40m minimum for me, and we're robbing ourselves at that... £50m if you've got any sense of decency.
Sorry, I mean our star/best players. Getting rid of Rooney is simply weakening us - big time. He may not of had his greatest season with us last year, but he was still a vital cog for us. Two goals against City epitomizes that.
It's going to be who blinks first. It all depends how tough Moyes is. Sir Alex would seriously dig his heals in. Does Moyes have the guts to stand up to Rooney and Co.?
Or Gary Neville knows what he's talking about unlike many on this thread.
Guts isn't one thing I'd be worried about Moyes lacking.
Do you believe that is how the club still view him? How Sir Alex did during the summer of 2012?
Is not part of the reason for why are United find itself in this position that Rooney no longer wishes to be that sort of player?
Further that in specific games it was Welbeck who got given that very job.
Apparently he requested to train with the reserves. Surely he's off now?
If that is the case, then it does seem the players and him have distanced themselves from each other. Would be no turning back from there.
God damn it Wayne.
God damn it Wayne.
I was referring to the point that we shouldn't sell him to Chelsea unless we get an exorbitant offer, which considering their first 2 offers is very unlikely.
Yeah it's only one of those 2 things. It certainly can't be anything else.
It's a shame, not least because he was (apparently) a very popular member of the squad. As in 2010, though, it seems that Rooney & co will use any weapon to achieve the "victory".
Can do so for the next 2 years if he likes
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Doesn't sound as divisive as some are making out.
Doesn't sound as divisive as some are making out.
Chelsea will probably add a bit on top of his current wage deal but I doubt it will be a big increase, I would actually believe him if he said he wants to join Chelsea to play as their no1 striker.
Sure why not? what wrong with that? makes perfect sense to me.
"After knowing him a long time I can assure you he is not bothered about getting a pay rise.
"He's bothered about playing football. He wants to be the main man and wants to be playing in all the big games."
They will make a big offer but it will come towards the end of the window.
Sounds reasonable from Owen, except when you remember what Rooney did in 2010 to get his increase. O shea was quoted as saying Rooney walked into the dressing room and said he'd "done what he had to do" to get it.
Because it's nonsense. Rooney has already shown himself to be greedy in the past and there's no reason why he won't be this time. The whole lack of playing time thing, which is exaggerated anyway, is merely an excuse. Plus, he has to earn the right to be the 'main man' anyway and last season Van Persie was much better than him.
If you bid £35m and he signs a transfer request then I'd be happy for you to have him. I'm not convinced he'd strengthen your lot as much as some people here fear. I wouldn't be surprised if his main influence was to contribute to the annual Chelsea players revolt.
Earn the right? I would have thought he has after being one of our best players for almost ten years. But for most RVP is a guaranteed starter, I still think of him as an Arsenal player most of the time.
But past performances don't automatically guarantee you a starting place at the top level. No matter how good you are, if you have a average-poor season then you're always going to struggle to get games more than you would have before. RVP may have only been here for one year, but if he's performing better then he deserves a place in the team ahead of Rooney, unless we're going with both of them. Players don't get picked on how long they've been at the club. And I think his previous spat where he held the club to ransom for a better wages takes away a lot of what people seem to be saying he has earned in regards to a place.
Well if I had to choose between Rooney and RVP I know I would choose Rooney (Unlike Moyes). Or I would at least give them an equal chance of proving themselves.
That's not a surprise given that I distinctly remember you being strongly opposed to the RvP transfer in the first place.
Rooney is the more complete player in the sense that he's accomplished as both an attacking midfielder and out and out striker, but apart from that Van Persie is the better player and has been for the past few seasons.
Of course Rooney doesn't care about getting a payrise. Because he already got it. I'm sure he'll be doing all he can to remain on the same wage, or thereabouts. I doubt many clubs, if any, are going to pay him more than what he's on, but I have a feeling United will pay him less if he was to be offered a new contract.
Only because I thought we were well stocked in strikers and needed a midfielder instead.
Even though he's already on obscene wages it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to force more out of the club.
Sure, but I get the feeling that you've let that prejudice from back then carry on with you.
Neville says he can't for the life of him see United selling to Chelsea. That's about as reassuring as we can get right now.
He's a proper knob head.
We should not sell him to Chelsea at whatever cost - and only let him train properly if he gets a SAF tattoo
We should not sell him to Chelsea at whatever cost - and only let him train properly if he gets a SAF tattoo
Maybe.
Michael Owen makes some good points. Of course Rooney wants to play in the big games. The problem is his form over the last 12-18 months hasn't warranted it.
After the way the world ridiculed Arsenal for selling us RVP, I can't see Rooney being sold to Chelsea.
Without signing any big names, I don't think Moyes needs any more of the generic football world against him.
I'm sure if Madrid came calling, we'd sell him. But with seemingly only Chelsea involved, he's got to stay?
Without signing any big names, I don't think Moyes needs any more of the generic football world against him.
I'm sure if Madrid came calling, we'd sell him. But with seemingly only Chelsea involved, he's got to stay?
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