Ruud10
A Bit Wordy
All we know is that Chelsea made an absurdly lowball bid for Rooney. We can speculate anything we want, but that's all we know.
Don't know what gives you that idea. We presumably know if he wants to leave, a transfer request wont effect anything, the club want to keep him and certainly don't want to sell to Chelsea, and ultimately that's all that matters.
We've done so many times before see Ruud, Ronaldo, Evra etc.Holding on to an unhappy player is not an option for any club. You need to read between the lines. Every player has he's price and of coarse United will not want to sell him to Chelsea but can you honestly see them holding on to a player who wants to leave? United will want the best price for him so naturally they will say that they want to keep him. I honestly can't see a way back for him at United especially as he can't get into the squad for the Community Shield but he will be available for England, it's a total farce.
Michael Owen on Rooney in the DT today: "Wayne wants to play all the time. We all love football but he's on a different level. - - - - I dont think he can bear the thought of not being the main man and not playing all the time. He wants to be loved, the first name on the team sheet."
That's the crux of it all really and it all started when he was dropped for the Real Madrid game. He didn't stop to think WHY he had been dropped, he immediately phoned Coleen and she tweeted her disgust even before we kicked off. He's been seething ever since and Jose M has stirred it up further since getting the Chelsea job.
In fact I wouldn't put it past Jose M deliberately unsettling an opponent's player and having no real intention of signing him. Hence the ridiculously low offer.
Odds on Rooney doing an interview whilst on England duty and denying he's been injured?
would not mind if we sold him to the Gunners. They are a proper club.
I doubt Arsenal can afford his wages.
RVP said he wants Rooney to stay and that he was one of the reasons why he joined United.
I think he will end up staying, I would imagine the skag doesn't want to go abroad given the new baby and settled where they are, and given he played away with whores I would say he owes some, so he trying for a move in the PL to suit her, but there is no fecking way we will sell to a PL club, like heinze and the dippers, no way, and the dippers weren't even a threat. We hold all the aces here.
Either way he has an absolutely scumbag for an agent!
still say a fired up committed rooney is better than anything we can sign. He's proved it time and time again. I for one wish he would just knuckle down, stay and be a part of this new era.
What has he done over the past year to suggest that he deserves a new contract, let alone seeking for one? He must be ultra thick if he thinks the club is going to give him an improved one
What has he done over the past year to suggest that he deserves a new contract, let alone seeking for one? He must be ultra thick if he thinks the club is going to give him an improved one
We have a class forward and as we only play with one up top, I think we are ok in that department. What we would need to replace him would be an attacking player that can assist, score, link up etc. Whether that is on the wing, attacking midfield or up front doesn't matter IMO.
I don't think we need a striker. RvP, Hernandez and Welbeck will suffice. We need a player who will score 10/15 goals and provide similar number of assists. A player of the calibre of Mata would be perfect.
I take your point, but don't you think we'll be going back to the position we were in before RvP, when we were over reliant on Rooney? Sure, Welbeck and Hernandez can do a job, but are they of the calibre to carry us for a 3 month spell if RvP gets injured? If we sell Rooney, I'd only feel confident if we were able to sign a ready made number 9/10 - it's a shame Lewandowski's had his head turned by Bayern as he's perfect and I'm sure we'd happily be shot of Rooney if we could get him.
I get what you are saying, but you have to wonder whether we can fit another world class CF into our line-up? I for one am starting to get the feeling that signings were made (RvP and Kagawa) to prepare for life after Rooney? This season I really would love to see Kagawa played in that number 10 role to see if he can recapture the form his shown at Dortmund and would hate it if he is pushed out wide to accommodate another striker. This is just my opinion of course, but I honestly feel that Fergie had Rooney's cards marked after his last stunt! At the time Fergie wasn't able to take a stand against Rooney's little tantrum and had to bow down! However, subsequent signings have certainly made us stronger and are now able to take a stand against Rooney's outbursts.
So with that in mind I believe a top class winger would be enough if Rooney went. Dare I say Ronaldo?![]()
I certainly think Fergie was planning for less dependance on Rooney with the RvP and Kagawa purchases. The most pitiful part of the Rooney saga is how quickly he has seemingly given up following the introduction of competition for his spot - the sense of entitlement is staggering.
I still am not seeing genuine hard rock cafe evidence that he's all that upset. Plus this negotiations etc etc and correspondance with the club just doesn't paint that picture at all.
The biggest draw card that he currently holds is that he can play anywhere across the front 4 and even deeper. RVP personally I don't really see as the general player that is versatile. Kagawa can be but from a deeper area. It's still totally gold to have an 'ethos' player with 10 years of experience who can play all across the front 4. An injury crisis has happened to us before in defence and it may even happen further forward.
Certain sections of the media already have Rooney at Chelsea.
Ain't going to happen.
I agree with all that, which is why I think we should look to mend the broken bridges.
Quoted.