Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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It can't just be an ego thing at VP coming in. After all he wanted top players to come in! And we've a new manager now anyway, so it's a fresh slate.

Well, there is of course the possibility that he is a hypocrite, or that it was just a tack they adopted to garner support during the 2010 controversy.
 
To be fair Sultan, I think if Rooney hadn't had any issues with the club now or before, there wouldn't be any talk of him being sold. If we do sell him, it won't be because of his ability on the pitch, he's still a brilliant player. I want him to go though anyway if he doesn't want to be at the club, which looks the case.

It's due to his form he was being left out or substituted. Sir Alex said very eloquently said Rooney in form would not be dropped or substituted. Of course he's still a very good player. However, he's not indispensable, and on very high wages. I genuinely think the club want to sell.
 
It has probably been said a hundred times before in this thread but I'm really not fussed if he hangs around any more. If he doesn't want to be here I'd rather us get a nice sum of money for him and get his astronomical wages off of our hands than keep him here against his will. We have a very good plan B for him in Kagawa (who in my opinion will shine if given regular opportunities) and we could use the money to strengthen in other areas. He appears to have this mindset that he's big enough to hold the club to ransom and personally I don't want a personality like that at the club. If he wants to stay and apply himself, fantastic because he's a very good player - but don't keep him around if not.
 
Is it a sin to ask for a transfer from Man Utd? Who else has done it in recent times?

He's done it twice, its not a sin but he's never going to be committed to us even though United have been committed to him. So deserved abuse and get rid

Evra? I'm sure I read on here that he asked to leave at some point.

Would be gone instead of playing 90% of our matches
 
Is it a sin to ask for a transfer from Man Utd? Who else has done it in recent times?

I think joining a domestic rival will anger a lot supporters, Arsenal must have felt the same when RVP decided he would stay in England instead of leaving for somewhere like Spain.
 
He asked to leave after the 2010 world cup and Fergie persueded him to stay. He's admitted it himself.

Did he say he asked to leave or spoke to the manager about leaving? He was obviously worried following the France debacle with him as captain
 
Did he say he asked to leave or spoke to the manager about leaving? He was obviously worried following the France debacle with him as captain

"After the World Cup, I'd told him that I wanted to go". Apparently Inter and Real were sniffing around him.
 
Is it a sin to ask for a transfer from Man Utd? Who else has done it in recent times?

If it was a sin we'd be hypocrites wanting to sign other teams players who have asked for transfers. Transfers are big part of football these days. Some people act like jilted lovers if one of theirs dare ask for a transfer.
 
I don't believe either of the injuries. He wants a transfer but doesn't want to hand in an official one so he can get the loyalty bonus. He'll probably use the "I was forced out" card, but we're not that stupid. We have the advantage, let him sweat, make Chelsea bid something ridiculous like 45m pounds a few minutes before the deadline after Rooney hands in a transfer request.
 
Yep thats another the scummy little shit. I think Kanchelskis also did although that was due to all sorts of dealings he had himself with the Russian Mafia or something like that.
 
I feel like transfer requests are seriously rare for big players. What are some recent ones? Actual formal requests?

Normally the club relents and it doesn't come to that, but in this case...I'm not sure.

What is surprising is that Rooney still hasn't said a thing. That kind of silence is almost admirable.

Wonder what the rest of the squad thinks of him.
 
If it was a sin we'd be hypocrites wanting to sign other teams players who have asked for transfers. Transfers are big part of football these days. Some people act like jilted lovers if one of theirs dare ask for a transfer.

Dozens of player leave of their own accord, or at least partly so. From the O'Sheas and P Nevilles to the Beckhams and Ronaldos. Most of them just don't manage to come across as scuzzy little gits all the way through, or in their lives in general in fact.
 
Express, Mirror & Star going with the 'senior United stars revolt over Rooney distraction' story.
 
Like Moyes said, he played on Saturday. Maybe, just maybe, he actually did get injured.
 
"After the World Cup, I'd told him that I wanted to go". Apparently Inter and Real were sniffing around him.

Evra informed Ferguson of his decision, but was happy to sit down with his manager and discuss the situation.
Those talks ended with Evra opting to stay in England, and he believes the right call was made eventually.

"Sometimes you have to make a choice in your life and there was an approach from two big clubs, Inter Milan and Real Madrid, and I just had a chat about it with the boss," said Evra.

"After the World Cup, I'd told him that I wanted to go, but when I went to his house we talked a lot and in the end he didn't have to persuade me to stay because my heart wanted to stay."

I think its pretty obvious that he was worried about things after the world cup and thats why he was looking for a new challenge.

A bit different to being "adamant" about leaving a couple of years ago, coming out in the press and questioning the club and staying for a large contract. I wasn't struck on Rooney after that - in fact I posted that it wouldnt be the end of it because it was resolved in a fishy way, out of the blue. Then he's asking to leave again a few years later and its no surprise to me.
 
Senior players/dressing room apparently fed up of him (according to BT Sports review of papers with a couple journalists). Seems like him staying may cause issues
 
What is he supposed to have done to his shoulder exactly? If it was a dislocation i think we'd know about it, bruising to his shoulder is keeping him from the pre-season tour?
 
Express, Mirror & Star going with the 'senior United stars revolt over Rooney distraction' story.
Senior players/dressing room apparently fed up of him (according to BT Sports review of papers with a couple journalists). Seems like him staying may cause issues

Senior players...one or more of Giggs, Evra, Rio, Vidic and Carrick is the inference there presumably.
 
It's a United ruse to ease the sale of Rooney to the Kardashians Chelsea.
 
Think about it; he didn't get to play with the other boys in Australia and Japan - I too would fake a shoulder injury if I had to travel to frickin Sweden! It has nothing to do with wanting to leave the club. It has everything to do with Sweden!
 
Mirror Sport understands, though, that tensions are running high within the United squad, with senior players such as Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Patrice Evra expressing their anger at the way the situation has developed.

And it seems all parties believed it was wise not to ask Rooney to take part in Tuesday’s match, given the convenience of a minor injury, when there is so much unrest between him and the rest of the players.

Sources close to the Old Trafford club have explained there is an increasing antagonism towards the England striker, with senior players “unhappy” at his stance, which they see as a blatant attempt to strengthen his own position without any regard for the unsettling effect it is having on the team.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wayne-rooney-transfer-manchester-united-2129122


An impression is also being given that Rooney’s relationship with some of the senior players in the United dressing room – Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Patrice Evra – is becoming strained, amid those players’ concerns that their pleas with him to stay at United have been ignored. The sense of a dressing-room rift serves Rooney well in his attempts to prove that his position at the club is untenable. He can shape his own position as one in which he has fans and team-mates against him, with Ferguson, now an ogre in the player’s mind, as a spectre in the background. All good grounds to leave.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-as-david-moyes-considers-stance-8747450.html


One of the usual suspects and one broadsheet, they've got their ducks in a row as regards the players involved.
 
Convenient for both parties, in a way.
 
One of the usual suspects and one broadsheet, they've got their ducks in a row as regards the players involved.

Key thing to me is what the Indy says: Rooney's 'camp' happy that the senior players are turning on him cos it gives Rooney more grounds to claim his position is untenable. So cynical. They're literally looking for any reason at all to force the transfer aren't they?
 
It was Ruud10's post and I'm pretty sure he wasn't saying that Rooney was the greatest English player of all time, just the best of the current batch.

Yes, the current batch only. My apologies to those who might have thought otherwise.
 
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