Ever met any newspaper journalists? Shithouses to a man. They smell blood now and have a sense that it's safe for them to have a pop. A pack of dogs they are.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Ever met any newspaper journalists? Shithouses to a man. They smell blood now and have a sense that it's safe for them to have a pop. A pack of dogs they are.
I actually think that would be a nigh on impossible fee. Clubs outside of Europe tend not to pay fees - and if they do, they are nominal - for 'star' players (see Robbie Keane, Gerrard, Kaka, Anelka, Drogba, Giovinco, Beckham).
Then you look to the clubs in Europe - very few are going to pay such a relatively high fee solely on the basis of marketing potential because, let's face it, they won't be getting any return in terms of on-field performances. And which club could afford that, realistically, for an over-the-hill player who will demand massive wages? PSG - I don't see them having any inclination towards buying Rooney, simply because he's not good enough for their 'project'. After that, you've got some of the Turkish clubs - again, I can't see them willing to put in €20m and at least €6m in wages.
Basically, Rooney is our conspicuous lemon, and no manner of car salesman tactics will be able to shift him in a cost-effective way. The only viable way of moving him on is to subsidise his wages at another club.
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Imagine watching us this season and thinking that instead of "Rooney has let Van Gaal down".
Imagine watching us this season and thinking that instead of "Rooney has let Van Gaal down".
How's Rooney supposed to motivate himself (on £300k a week) without someone better than him keeping him on his toes.
He's only the club captain, he can't be expected to be mature enough to push himself.
Regarding Ogden, his networking skills far outweigh his journalistic integrity.
My comments are in response to Ogden saying LVG has let Rooney down. If there is anyone that has been let down here, it's LVG. Ogden's comments are madness.
I feel like I've let down Rooney with my last post. #justice4wazza
Ogden is stupid. We should have signed Kane or Lewandowski? As if their clubs will give them to us on a plate. The only thing he's right about is at we've backed the wrong horse. Rooney isn't a fading player. Compared to what we need, he's faded already.
You look how Martial's wife posted pictures of their baby in United gear. Martial might not be a United fan but he knows it is what fans will be delighted to see. Rooney always shows his kids in Everton stuff. He is not and never will be a red. Whoever his PR people are they are idiots.
Just found out he's now with the Independent.
Hardly, I have always said this guy has the best PR and agent in the business. How this guy can be United and England Captain and be on 300k a week given his shower of shite performances for club and country for the last 3 years is amazing. Also most of the press around him up until a few weeks ago have been uber positive, almost as if anyone who said anything negative would be assassinated.
Noel Gallagher was right about him you can't change a Scouser. It has always been obvious, he doesn't have any affection for he club. He's wanted to leave twice. We don't owe him any loyalty.
"United would have been transformed with a Robert Lewandowski or a Harry Kane in their ranks, but instead they backed a fading force who will not even be in Wolfsburg when it truly matters tonight."
Ogden is right here. He is making some superficial excuses for Rooney's performances but his actual message is that Rooney is declining and LVG has made a huge mistake by backing him.
Ogden is right here. He is making some superficial excuses for Rooney's performances but his actual message is that Rooney is declining and LVG has made a huge mistake by backing him.
As in we'll start hearing reports that Rooney is confused and angry and all that bollocks. Like the last time a manager dared to drop him for playing like shit. His pals in the media doing his dirty work, that sort of thing.
I think him going to Everton last night is more than just a bloke going to watch a team he supports. There'll be all sorts of petty shite going on now until the Summer,
He is finished though yeah.
But he says LVG has let him down by backing him. If we signed any of those players, Rooney would have been on the bench permanently.
Spot the odd one out
Giovinco? He's still a 'star' player in terms of the MLS, and is currently tearing it up there.
LvG has let United down by not signing a big name striker, yes, but Rooney has also let LvG down by now repaying the faith shown in him.
That is probably the other way round. Pretty sure he probably asked Woody for one, United didn't deliver. We were linked with Benzema, Lewa, Kane and Muller
Ed has let United down. I'll get it right yet.
That article is the usual list of excuses for Rooney's form, propped up with the (reluctant) criticism that can no longer be avoided now that reality has set in.
I will say this. Rooney has been poor and we should have never went into the season with him as our main striker.
Saying that I have no doubt if we had bothered to invest in a quality wide player for the RW and played a more expansive style, he still would be shite but he would have scored more goals this season.
We still don't score goals when he doesn't play anyway because the team plays shite football with or without him. Slightly better without him though
Saying that I have no doubt if we had bothered to invest in a quality wide player for the RW and played a more expansive style, he still would be shite but he would have scored more goals this season.
We still don't score goals when he doesn't play anyway because the team plays shite football with or without him. Slightly better without him though
He's wary of coming across as being too harsh on Rooney and therefore makes some stupid excuses. Rooney is still England's captain after all.
We hear that about anyone who is about to be shipped out don't we? RVP, Chicharito, Falcao, ADM, Nani etc etc Always the same bleating deserved or not. As for the press they're turning on him and ex team mates are now admitting he's done. He has nothing to be confused about (I think he knows the game is up) and the decision to end his career with us will I think be proven the correct one as he continues to decline elsewhere.
He'll be gone and forgotten remarkably quickly for someone who has scored so many goals for us.
Robbie Keane
Robbie Keane has been better than any of those players since moving over there. Never top top class but a severely underrated player by many.
Not like Noel "Renaissance Man" Gallagher to stereotype. Seems you can't change a Bertie with a chip on their shoulder either.
Rooney's loyalty has always been to himself and there's nothing particularly wrong with that. He kissed a United badge in front of the Everton fans and would happily kiss theirs in front of ours if given the chance.
Like I said earlier this is no love affair and when he's gone there'll be no great anguish on our part despite his achievements.
Using Shearer and Sheringham as examples is a bit disingenuous, too.
Okay, yes, statistically Shearer's scoring rate did drop off, but he still had a better record than most when he became ancient (every day post-30 apparently). Sheringham played until he was about 48 so obviously his post-30 rate will be considerably lower than that pre-30.
Also neglects to mention that Drogba had his best season ever for Chelsea at the age of 32.
Okay, yes, statistically Shearer's scoring rate did drop off, but he still had a better record than most when he became ancient (every day post-30 apparently). Sheringham played until he was about 48 so obviously his post-30 rate will be considerably lower than that pre-30.
Also neglects to mention that Drogba had his best season ever for Chelsea at the age of 32.
Ireland's all-time top scorer with 67 goals. Consistently proficient in the PL. Possibly the best MLS player since he went there.
He's still a relative star in that league.
Absolutely. It feels a lot like when we let Falcao go, I was never for a second worried that he'd go and prove us wrong. He was clearly finished.
Relative is the key word
This is the first time Rooney has ever been seen/gone to an Everton match since playing for us right?
This could be something very innocent, or he is making a public statement. It really does feel like it's going to end soon and badly though.
This could be something very innocent, or he is making a public statement. It really does feel like it's going to end soon and badly though.
How did you come to that conclusion?
LVG has let Rooney down by making him captain, playing him every game regardless of form/fitness, publicly defending him to the death and saying he is his best ever captain? i thought the Garth Crooks piece couldnt be topped, bloody hell
It will be an absolute travesty if he ever breaks the goal scoring record.
How any United fan can want Rooney to overtake Sir Bobby as our all time greatest goalscorer is just beyond me. Sir Bobby represents everything that this great club is about, he is the perfect icon for the club. Rooney taking over that mantle would make me sick to my stomach.
How any United fan can want Rooney to overtake Sir Bobby as our all time greatest goalscorer is just beyond me. Sir Bobby represents everything that this great club is about, he is the perfect icon for the club. Rooney taking over that mantle would make me sick to my stomach.
To be fair, as much as I agree, I wouldn't be half as bad if he was playing well when he broke it.
It's more frustrating to think he might end up crossing the line purely from penalties, 3 yard headers and deflections off his arse (all while playing shite for 89 minutes).
Yeah, Rooney scoring goals and helping the team would be really frustrating.
Not what was said at all.
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