Wayne Rooney to remain captain

Towards the end of his United career, Bryan Robson remained as captain while being a bit part player.
 
I don't have any problem with Rooney remaining club's captain. I had problems with him becoming a guaranteed starter under LVG, and from Mourinho's quotes, there is nothing that suggest that.

He remains captain, and if he performs he plays, if not, goes to bench. Like it should be.
 
I never understood one thing. Why was LvG so fond of Rooney? It would always remain a mystery to me. So much so that he got RvP, Chica all out of the club so that Rooney had no competition for his place as no. 9? And Rooney still shat on all that belief of LvG. With LvG shown the exit door (justifiably) by ruthless suits, Rooney is still here. What about his promise of 20 goals (a modest target, considering his wages)? Why is no one in the media taking him to task for that?

1. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lve-problem-Wayne-Rooney-s-best-position.html

2. http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-says-manchester-united-are-chasing-a-striker
 
Wayne Rooney has compared José Mourinho to Sir Alex Ferguson, with Manchester United’s captain relishing working under the Portuguese as he did when the Scot managed the club.

Rooney said he joined United from Everton in summer 2004 because Ferguson was in charge and he won all but one of his major honours while playing for him. He believes Mourinho can have a similar impact on his career.

“I came to Manchester United because I wanted to work under Alex Ferguson and then in the latter years [with] what Mourinho has done in football, in Spain and Italy and England, he is a manager who you want to play under,” the 30-year-old said. “He is one of the best around and to learn from what he brings it’s going to be exciting for me to try and learn under a manager such as himself.”

United are in Shanghai on their pre-season tour, where they lost the opening game 4-1 to Borussia Dortmund on Friday night. Rooney said: “I’ve been working under the manager for the last few days and the sessions have been very good. It is exciting, he is one of the best managers in world football and he has a clear idea of what he wants. I’m just looking forward to playing for him now.”

Mourinho is clear that Rooney will play as the No10 this season after operating in midfield under Louis van Gaal last term. “It’s almost like a free role and I am excited to play it,” Rooney said. “He said to me about playing No10. That is something I’ve now got to work on and get myself in the right position to score goals. I have scored goals all through my career and I have no doubt in my goalscoring ability. Hopefully I can do that this season.

“I like to be involved in the game and I am now playing for José who, straight away, has no fears about players coming deep if they want to. It’s a different way of playing, a different manager, different ideas and if I can bring my game and qualities to this team, then I know I can create chances and score goals.”

Rooney admitted that when Van Gaal was in charge goals were harder to score. “As the striker in the last couple of seasons, it has been difficult with not creating many chances,” said the Liverpudlian, whose 245 strikes place him four behind Sir Bobby Charlton’s record tally for United. “It will be the same as the England record. It will be a huge honour to become record scorer at this club. I have no doubt that it will happen this season. It will be a huge moment for me.”

Despite the plan being not to play on the tour Rooney signalled he may be involved against Manchester City in Beijing on Monday. “I feel good so I want to get out back playing and I am sure I will play some part on Monday,” he said.

On 3 August Rooney has his testimonial at Old Trafford against Everton. “I am delighted to have been at this club for such a long time and I am really pleased the club have granted me a testimonial which will raise a lot of money for children’s charities so I am in a privileged position to do that,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/22/wayne-rooney-jose-mourinho-alex-ferguson
 
SteveJ said:
Wayne Rooney has compared José Mourinho to Sir Alex Ferguson, with Manchester United’s captain relishing working under the Portuguese as he did when the Scot managed the club.

Rooney said he joined United from Everton in summer 2004 because Ferguson was in charge and he won all but one of his major honours while playing for him. He believes Mourinho can have a similar impact on his career.

“I came to Manchester United because I wanted to work under Alex Ferguson and then in the latter years [with] what Mourinho has done in football, in Spain and Italy and England, he is a manager who you want to play under,” the 30-year-old said. “He is one of the best around and to learn from what he brings it’s going to be exciting for me to try and learn under a manager such as himself.”

United are in Shanghai on their pre-season tour, where they lost the opening game 4-1 to Borussia Dortmund on Friday night. Rooney said: “I’ve been working under the manager for the last few days and the sessions have been very good. It is exciting, he is one of the best managers in world football and he has a clear idea of what he wants. I’m just looking forward to playing for him now.”

Mourinho is clear that Rooney will play as the No10 this season after operating in midfield under Louis van Gaal last term. “It’s almost like a free role and I am excited to play it,” Rooney said. “He said to me about playing No10. That is something I’ve now got to work on and get myself in the right position to score goals. I have scored goals all through my career and I have no doubt in my goalscoring ability. Hopefully I can do that this season.

“I like to be involved in the game and I am now playing for José who, straight away, has no fears about players coming deep if they want to. It’s a different way of playing, a different manager, different ideas and if I can bring my game and qualities to this team, then I know I can create chances and score goals.”

Rooney admitted that when Van Gaal was in charge goals were harder to score. “As the striker in the last couple of seasons, it has been difficult with not creating many chances,” said the Liverpudlian, whose 245 strikes place him four behind Sir Bobby Charlton’s record tally for United. “It will be the same as the England record. It will be a huge honour to become record scorer at this club. I have no doubt that it will happen this season. It will be a huge moment for me.”

Despite the plan being not to play on the tour Rooney signalled he may be involved against Manchester City in Beijing on Monday. “I feel good so I want to get out back playing and I am sure I will play some part on Monday,” he said.

On 3 August Rooney has his testimonial at Old Trafford against Everton. “I am delighted to have been at this club for such a long time and I am really pleased the club have granted me a testimonial which will raise a lot of money for children’s charities so I am in a privileged position to do that,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/22/
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Someone give him a straw. Never seen so much sucking up!
 
The start of the end of Jose. I just hope Jose changes his mind after seeing Rooney play in the coming season and ships him off in Jan.
 
As Rooney has said, he faces a fight for his place. I think Mourinho will drop him if he's not performing especially now with the additions of Mkhitaryan and Ibrahimovic.
 
There's no real alternatives to him as captain. Doesn't mean he's always gonna play. If Mourinho starts him regularly I'm taking up coaching as the entire field is a scam.
 
Ole'sbodyguard said:
What's Rooney, as club captain, supposed to say to the media about the new manager?
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"he's erm... Umm he's alright I suppose. He erm did shite last season with Chelsea but I'm erm on er too much money to care"
 
Didn't Mourinho always want Rooney specifically to play in the #10 role at Chelsea? I remember the intense rumours of Chelsea wanting him and specifically Mourinho who was very fond of him.

Rooney is extremely lucky that he has a manager that already adores him before he's played for us and who thinks he can get the best out of him.

Any other manager and it would be bye bye.

Hopefully, and I mean hopefully, Mourinho can work his magic and turn Rooney back to what he was. A dog that used to chase the ball like it was at its last day of playing, not the Rooney that try's to be something it's not but the real one that we used to know and love.

Unfortunately, I think it might be too late.
 
Why, oh why, do managers think they understand football better than a bunch of idiots on the internet? Oh, yeah. Because they do. And they all rate Rooney.
 
goin4glory said:
There's no real alternatives to him as captain. Doesn't mean he's always gonna play. If Mourinho starts him regularly I'm taking up coaching as the entire field is a scam.
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Mourinho played Ivanovic very regularly last season prior to his firing, although Ivanovic was clearly isht. All coaches have their favourites, I mean ALL of them. It always baffled me last season when some people went crazy over LvG having his favourites. Coaches are humans after all and humans usually tend to exhibit some form of conscious or unconscious favouritism. Everyone knows Jose has always liked Rooney so I won't hold my breathe about Rooney being dropped due to performances. But it's a team sport anyway, so if the rest of the team plays well and we're winning games, Rooney playing regularly or not won't really matter that much.
 
All I hope is that any favouritism shown towards Rooney doesn't piss off Martial or Rashford. If either of those are sat on the bench watching tumescent performances like we've become accustomed to from Rooney then Mourinho is dicing with managerial death. Rooney is effectively finished bar the odd performance once in a while, these two have the potential to terrify the best defences in Europe.
 
Everyone is convinced he's finished. Just remember he was playing in a system for 2 years where the team wasn't allowed to shoot and people expected him to score bucket loads or get benched.

Have a look at Vardy for Leicester. Scoring goals for fun for 2 years in a fast counter attacking system. In Englands slow possession based sideways football he barely gets a kick. Same has applied to Rooney under LVG.

There's a reason why professional managers keep backing Wayne Rooney and that's because they see up close that he offers a lot to the team. More than most fans clearly see.

There's also an obsession amongst fans to just dismiss the importance of players as soon as they hit 30. Why? Rooney has been slow for 5 years yet he has continued to score goals and break records.

I'm glad he's our captain and I think he could have a good season under Jose.
 
Rooney tempers any overflow of enthusiasm for the season, him playing a free role is just ridiculous.
 
Mourinho probably wants to give Rooney another chance to come good and wants his confidence and attitude to be good. I can't imagine him being happy or very motivated if Mourinho stripped him of his captaincy without giving him a chance.
 
Stannerz said:
He fought for that 300k per week contract?
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I'm sure threatening to leave at least once had something to do with it, it was responsible for part of the climb to that eventual figure. Though, it was a bit of luck that Moyes became manager.
 
Jonno said:
Everyone is convinced he's finished. Just remember he was playing in a system for 2 years where the team wasn't allowed to shoot and people expected him to score bucket loads or get benched.

Have a look at Vardy for Leicester. Scoring goals for fun for 2 years in a fast counter attacking system. In Englands slow possession based sideways football he barely gets a kick. Same has applied to Rooney under LVG.

There's a reason why professional managers keep backing Wayne Rooney and that's because they see up close that he offers a lot to the team. More than most fans clearly see.

There's also an obsession amongst fans to just dismiss the importance of players as soon as they hit 30. Why? Rooney has been slow for 5 years yet he has continued to score goals and break records.

I'm glad he's our captain and I think he could have a good season under Jose.
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Barely gets a kick? He has 4 goals in 11caps half of which are subs.
 
Natener said:
Barely gets a kick? He has 4 goals in 11caps half of which are subs.
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I'm talking specifically about the system in the euros where Roy decided to slow England right down. The game he started he was completely anonymous.

I'm looking forward to watching Rooney in a more forward thinking urgent Man United system.
 
Jose lost his shit at real Madrid when someone started leaking dressing room gossip to the press on a regular basis. So if Rooney has been the person behind our leaks, sooner we hit a rough patch, sooner the leaks will start. I hope he's prepared for it.
 
Reminds me of the waning days of Roy Keane. But I think the impact of Wayne's demise is bigger than Roy.

Roy was moved back to protect the back four but Wayne's lack of pace really slows down our attack.

I would be interested in a foot race between Ibra and Wayne despite the 5 year age gap.
 
Would be really funny if Jose uses blind, valencia, rooney, mata and even elbow guy often like LVG.

So if that happens, that means CAF is crap at understanding football or Jose is a shit manager?
 
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Am I understanding him correctly?:confused: All the things some of us complain about, is he saying he's got Jose's permission to do them???
What's he mean a 'free role'? To get in other players' way? I thought I read here that Ibra likes to drop deep at times? If so, won't he and Rooney get in each other's way? So his understanding from Jose is that he can do whatever he wants on the pitch?

Also, saw that he's subtly blaming LVG for any lack of goals on his part. :rolleyes: After the man trusted him, and partly lost his job due to the stupid faith he showed in Rooney. Bloody ungrateful.

I can't wait to see what happens when he starts blaming Jose for his shit performances this season - should be a fun dressing room:rolleyes:
 
Fanatic 00237 said:
Mourinho played Ivanovic very regularly last season prior to his firing, although Ivanovic was clearly isht. All coaches have their favourites, I mean ALL of them. It always baffled me last season when some people went crazy over LvG having his favourites. Coaches are humans after all and humans usually tend to exhibit some form of conscious or unconscious favouritism. Everyone knows Jose has always liked Rooney so I won't hold my breathe about Rooney being dropped due to performances. But it's a team sport anyway, so if the rest of the team plays well and we're winning games, Rooney playing regularly or not won't really matter that much.
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Not sure there was a great list of alternatives to Ivanovic available though. Mourinho has already ruled out Rooney in any CM position which means he's competing with Ibra/Rashford for striker and Mata/Miki and possible Herrera at 10.
 
032Devil said:
Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho has confirmed that Wayne Rooney will continue to be the club's captain this season.

Mourinho has leapt to the defence of the 30-year-old, insisting that he will be a "very important player" for his side during the upcoming campaign.
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Those quotes sound almost identical to LVG's, when he arrived. I am worried.
Anyway, hopefully, as the season progresses (unlike LVG before him), Jose will realise that Rooney needs to be extricated from the team, if the team are to do well.
 
clarkydaz said:
what happened in the summer with England anyway that wasn't a surprise to him? All the media were gushing about him pulling the strings. Then he collapsed against Iceland by himself
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MUFC fans who had watched Rooney all season, knew this would happen.
Just like night follows day, Rooney failing at the Euros was expected.
And I also believe he will fail this season at MUFC. I hope that if this happens, Jose benches him or gets him out in January.
For England, Hodgson felt that in attack, the likes of Kane (who was dire), Sturridge, Sterling were all ahead of Rooney in the pecking order.
I only hope that Jose also arrives quickly at a similar conclusion.
 
Raees said:
Whether he likes it or not.. how he handles the inevitable under performance of Rooney will determine if he is a success here or not.
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Indeed. LVG put all his eggs in Rooney's basket. When Rooney inevitably failed, we did not score enough goals and LVG got sacked.
I hope that Jose doesn't fall into a similar trap.
 
Dante said:
Why, oh why, do managers think they understand football better than a bunch of idiots on the internet? Oh, yeah. Because they do. And they all rate Rooney.
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And then they fail.
And get sacked.

Rooney has been trusted by LVG and Hodgson. Their fate? See above.
 
I just want to say to all the posters that claimed I was wrong...

I fecking told you so, I said Mourinho rated Rooney, I said it was unlikley he was going to get rid or make him a fringe player. I said people are having the wrong response to Mourinhos first presser were he said Rooney is no midfielder for him, it just means he wants him higher on the pitch, not on the bench like many were thinking.

The Rooney hurdle is a big one to take for the manager, either you believe in him and trust in his ability or you don't and get rid. It seems Mourinho falls in the first category, Moyes, LVG and Hodgson (but that is for the nat team) fall in the same category aswell. Lets hope Mourinho won't end up the same way, but I said it to people, don't fecking assume Mourinho will ditch Rooney, I said don't be so fecking happy because he said he isn't a midfield player and I'am fecking right.

We can only hope and pray to the gods Mourinho has the balss like Fergie had that if he doesn't take his chances that he will be sold. That is the best we can hope for. But Rooney starts as captain, will be the first name on the team sheet, it will likley be as a 9.5 behind Zlatan just like when he was playing with RVP and we will have to deal with that. Feck I hate it that I'am always right about these things...
 
sunama said:
Those quotes sound almost identical to LVG's, when he arrived. I am worried.
Anyway, hopefully, as the season progresses (unlike LVG before him), Jose will realise that Rooney needs to be extricated from the team, if the team are to do well.
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It's copy and paste mate. Cue in the same for Allardyce and Zlatan!
 
Dante said:
Why, oh why, do managers think they understand football better than a bunch of idiots on the internet? Oh, yeah. Because they do. And they all rate Rooney.
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If he does, Jose joins the great line of world class managers to put their trust in Rooney's declining ability...Moyes, LVG, & Hodgson. Those 3 wouldn't get 5 likes between them for their football philosophies on here.

To be far to Jose, he had no choice but to keep Rooney captain......it doesn't mean he intends to play him regularly.
He can't sell him ( nobody wants him) so he may as well talk up his ego to get some use out of him ( Europa cup/League cup hopefully)
 
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