Giggsyking
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I repeat again, Galloway doesn't give a toss about anyone but himself.
So the Tories aren't tough enough. As I said.
Their version of tough sees too many people for Kendall in receipt of benefits, therefore they're not being tough enough.
So like every other politician?
So just like the last 3 PMs.Is every other politician believing in deep state conspiracies??
So just like the last 3 PMs.
Is every other politician believing in deep state conspiracies??
You literally said if every other politician believes in conspiracy theories, well yeah, how about the PMs themselves. Not only the current one, but also the one before, that if we want to exclude the other PM Tony fecking Blair with his "Saddam is building an atomic bomb" in 2002 which was the biggest foreign policy lie in modern history.Well if Galloway has the same beliefs as them it says it all.
You literally said is there every other politician believes in conspiracy theories, well yeah, how about the PMs themselves. Not only the current one, but also the one before, that if we want to exclude the other PM Tony fecking Blair with his "Saddam is building an atomic bomb" in 2002 which was the biggest foreign policy lie in modern history.
Words fail...again.
Home Office refuses Afghan youth orchestra visas days before first gig
Portugal-based musicians on tour have played Breaking the Silence across Europe after Taliban seized music institute in Kabul
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...sas-for-tour-of-england-days-before-first-gig
You literally said is there every other politician believes in conspiracy theories, well yeah, how about the PMs themselves. Not only the current one, but also the one before, that if we want to exclude the other PM Tony fecking Blair with his "Saddam is building an atomic bomb" in 2002 which was the biggest foreign policy lie in modern history.
The meltdown in government and the media is hilarious. FFS, pull yourselves together you donkeys.
Universal Credit is reduced by the amount equal to that received in carers allowance.My partner works for DWP processing PIP claims and thinks an enormous majority of people are gaming/manipulating the system. She also sees a ton of ‘fraud’ daily - EG people claiming PIP because they can’t do XYZ, but also in receipt of carers allowance to do XYZ for someone else in the house, who also claims PIP and carers allowance for someone else, and so on.
I think people are ultimately driven to behave in certain ways and I believe in a comprehensive benefits system but the current set up is open to a lot of manipulation.
My partner works for DWP processing PIP claims and thinks an enormous majority of people are gaming/manipulating the system. She also sees a ton of ‘fraud’ daily - EG people claiming PIP because they can’t do XYZ, but also in receipt of carers allowance to do XYZ for someone else in the house, who also claims PIP and carers allowance for someone else, and so on.
I think people are ultimately driven to behave in certain ways and I believe in a comprehensive benefits system but the current set up is open to a lot of manipulation.
The government also collects £30bn to £35bn a year less in tax than it should do.UC and legacy benefits are projected to cost the taxpayer £80.9bn in 2023/24 (about £1150 per person in the UK if shared out equally).
During COVID the government wrote off £10bn in unusable PPE and lost £16bn due to fraud and error in their shitty loan scheme alone. Truss' 44 days as PM cost us £30bn. Fossil fuel projects received £80bn in government subsidies between 2015 and 2023.
So do you think that the amount that fraud costs universal credit is at all comparable to the amount that government incompetence and corruption costs? I'm even only considering wasteful and corrupt spending right now, not the cost of e.g. refusing to deal with the tax evasion and avoidance of the mega rich as well. And do you think that the sorts of people claiming more than they're entitled to on benefits are more or less likely to spend that money in the UK than the sorts of people who sell dodgy PPE or invest in fossil fuel projects?
Well that's me convinced they are all shirkers.My partner works for DWP processing PIP claims and thinks an enormous majority of people are gaming/manipulating the system. She also sees a ton of ‘fraud’ daily - EG people claiming PIP because they can’t do XYZ, but also in receipt of carers allowance to do XYZ for someone else in the house, who also claims PIP and carers allowance for someone else, and so on.
I think people are ultimately driven to behave in certain ways and I believe in a comprehensive benefits system but the current set up is open to a lot of manipulation.
UC and legacy benefits are projected to cost the taxpayer £80.9bn in 2023/24 (about £1150 per person in the UK if shared out equally).
During COVID the government wrote off £10bn in unusable PPE and lost £16bn due to fraud and error in their shitty loan scheme alone. Truss' 44 days as PM cost us £30bn. Fossil fuel projects received £80bn in government subsidies between 2015 and 2023.
So do you think that the amount that fraud costs universal credit is at all comparable to the amount that government incompetence and corruption costs? I'm even only considering wasteful and corrupt spending right now, not the cost of e.g. refusing to deal with the tax evasion and avoidance of the mega rich as well. And do you think that the sorts of people claiming more than they're entitled to on benefits are more or less likely to spend that money in the UK than the sorts of people who sell dodgy PPE or invest in fossil fuel projects?
I think fraud is a strong word for what I was meaning to describe but yes, it pales in significance compared to everything else you’ve raised which would be a priority fix for me.
It’s anecdotal, she handles 4 a day so a tiny fraction of the 6 month backlog of claims currently sat there waiting to be picked up, though I understand it’s the consensus amongst the case handlers that most claims (not awards) are people trying it on. Whether that’s word for word notes from a GPs supporting evidence or glaring contradictions in their claim such as the carers allowance issue.
My mum and one of my sisters are PIP claimants. Can my mum walk the length of a bus? Yes. Is her COPD otherwise and often near completely debilitating? Yes, and she’s medically retired from the NHS. Should she get PIP? Apparently not by the letter of the law, but she does because a case handler looked favourably upon her. That’s not the kind of manipulation I’m talking about, but I need people to understand where I’m coming from. I don’t think all claimants are lying scroungers and PIP is one facet in a big complex picture. Without PIP my mum would be up a creek without a paddle, my sister too.
Sorry to hear this. Is your mum able to claim PIP? She may well be able to claim under special rules. The old form used to be the DS1500.Conversely, my Mum with stage 4 lung cancer is not entitled to ESA because she underpaid her NIC by £60 in 1 tax year. She has made over 35 years of NIC contributions and would be entitled to a full state pension if she survived to retirement age, which she won't. We have a lot more pressing issues to deal with rather than punching down on the most vulnerable.
He was booed at every corner in Rochdale, why would they vote for someone who was complicit with his leader in staying silent or worse supporting the massacres in Gaza.
I mean its essentially a protest vote. I don't think the people of Rochdale expect the outcome of their town's byelection to change the narrative in Gaza, but rather to send a message of discontent towards Keir Starmer and the current iteration of the Labour party, and perhaps a warning of how Starmer shouldn't take their vote for granted. I think Labour's candidate would have quite likely lost even if the whole anti-semitism scandal and consequent disowning of him by the party hadn't occurred. Weeks prior to that he was being booed pretty much every-time he was out canvassing.I don't know, obviously if what you say is correct then giving Starmer/Labour a 'bloody-nose', was not the intention.
So, what was?
Surely the people who voted for GG didn't think that voting for him would change a thing in Gaza? It might change things in Rochdale, but that is down the road a bit and given GG's record its not likely to be good news anytime soon, especially it would seem with both major party Leaders now looking for his scalp; he will become something of a pariah in the commons.
For the people of Rochdale, 'shooting oneself in the foot' is an image that comes to mind.
Sorry to hear this. Is your mum able to claim PIP? She may well be able to claim under special rules. The old form used to be the DS1500.
I mean its essentially a protest vote. I don't think the people of Rochdale expect the outcome of their town's byelection to change the narrative in Gaza, but rather to send a message of discontent towards Keir Starmer and the current iteration of the Labour party, and perhaps a warning of how Starmer shouldn't take their vote for granted. I think Labour's candidate would have quite likely lost even if the whole anti-semitism scandal and consequent disowning of him by the party hadn't occurred. Weeks prior to that he was being booed pretty much every-time he was out canvassing.
So, it is 'virtue signalling' to Labour then?
So, why did Labour choose that candidate in the first place if he was so disliked?
Perhaps this will help Starmer get a grip on the candidate selection processes in places like Rochdale, before the GE...a shot across his bows, in that sense then?
I suspect many people just voted with their hearts rather than their heads, but let's hope for Rochdale's sake, the long term damage done via GG's election is minimal. The town has enough problems already without uniting the wrath of both major party leaders against its newly elected MP.
Especially since GG is not someone to 'walk quietly and carry a big stick" is he?
How about blaming the political elite and parties instead of blaming the voters. This is what democracy is all about. Those votes should not be taking for granted and should be earned.
Ummm...yes?Is every other politician believing in deep state conspiracies??
Just like what I said, they take people's vote for granted. You either vote for us or blame yourself, how about you fecking work for the vote.
I mean its essentially a protest vote. I don't think the people of Rochdale expect the outcome of their town's byelection to change the narrative in Gaza, but rather to send a message of discontent towards Keir Starmer and the current iteration of the Labour party, and perhaps a warning of how Starmer shouldn't take their vote for granted. I think Labour's candidate would have quite likely lost even if the whole anti-semitism scandal and consequent disowning of him by the party hadn't occurred. Weeks prior to that he was being booed pretty much every-time he was out canvassing.