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Kuenessberg doxxing a man she knows will now face the wrath of the twitter far right.




So what? Are Labour activists not allowed to complain to PM about the NHS?

Kuenessberg pro BJ agenda is getting out of control. Someone needs to reign her in before she loses all credibility.
 
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You're collapsing parties into a single dimension with your analogy, that of economic policies. Anyhow, a short history for those who don't know (not meaning you) of how Lib Dems got here...

- In 1981 the SDP (Social Democratic Party) split from Labour in pursuit of more centrist than left wing economic policies based on European (German mostly) models.
- In 1988 they joined forces with the Liberal Party (old party, since the 1850s) to form the Liberal Democrats
- In 1994 Tony Blair won the Labour leadership contest and launched the New Labour era, lasting until 2010

In the two-decade spanning period of Blair's reign, the "Social Democratic" vote slowly but surely returned to Labour. The remaining core of the Lib Dems, the ones not drawn to Labour, were in essence neoliberals. Believing in a small state, free market, internationalism and deregulation. Economic policy wise, they are not that different from the Tories. But obviously not the party of "law and order" and conservatism, since they are believers in more freedom for the citizens and internationalism.

So to answer your question, it wasn't Nick Clegg. It was a process that started with Blair and New Labour, which affected the Lib Dems, the result of which was Clegg. He was the product of this transition rather than the cause.

With Labour veering to the left under Corbyn there's scope for Lib Dems to become more like Social Democrats and less Neoliberals. But that process takes years and requires new candidates to come through the party ranks. It was a 20-year transition to get here and we're only 4 years into the vacated centrist ground.

EDIT: In an ideal world there would be a genuine Social Democratic party in the UK. Like there is in most European nations. But the FTPT system and the make up of the UK, with the existence of nation-specific parties (SNP, Plaid Cymru, DUP, Sinn Fein) barely allows for 3 national parties. Never mind 4.

Ok very interesting. I remember the original Gang of Four and always thought David Owen was a good bloke. Then we had John Cleese lecturing us on PR, Paddy Pantsdown but after I left the country didn't really follow them until reading about Clegg. This Swinson woman seems suspect to me.
 
So what? Are Labour activists not allowed to complain to PM about the NHS?

Kuenessberg pro BJ agenda is getting out of control. Someone needs to reign her in before she loses all credibility.


Turns out the journo is a Tory apologist.

Shit, Whipps Cross. Right round the corner from my Mum's house. Wish I was there so I could have done the same.
 
Kuenessberg doxxing a man she knows will now face the wrath of the twitter far right:




So what? Are Labour activists not allowed to complain to PM about the NHS?


Kuenessberg pro BJ agenda is getting out of control. Someone needs to reign her in before she loses all credibility.


I’m sorry but that’s actually shocking and she needs to be reprimanded for that.

That’s exactly what I would expect from Aaron Banks or Nigel Farage, not the political editor of the BBC.

He’s a private citizen who has every right to an opinion. He’s not a carefully placed shill, his daughter is getting treatment in the very ward Johnson decided to visit.

The idea she can “out him” and attempt invalidate his grievances is absolutely beyond the pale for a supposedly apolitical journalist whose salary comes from licence payers which I would bet confidently include this man.

It’s as if she is suggesting that the opinion of Labour members holds no weight and should be ignored with absolute contempt.
 
I’m sorry but that’s actually shocking and she needs to be reprimanded for that.

That’s exactly what I would expect from Aaron Banks or Nigel Farage, not the political editor of the BBC.

He’s a private citizen who has every right to an opinion. He’s not a carefully placed shill, his daughter is getting treatment in the very ward Johnson decided to visit.

The idea she can “out him” and attempt invalidate his grievances is absolutely beyond the pale for a supposedly apolitical journalist whose salary comes from licence payers which I would bet confidently include this man.

It’s as if she is suggesting that the opinion of Labour members holds no weight and should be ignored with absolute contempt.
I'm writing an official complaint to BBC on this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

Normally you dont need too many for some form of recognition or action be be taken. If all who sympathise on this thread send a complaint, will probably make a difference
 
I'm writing an official complaint to BBC on this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

Normally you dont need too many for some form of recognition or action be be taken. If all who sympathise on this thread send a complaint, will probably make a difference
They didn't even do anything with the BBC Trust found she'd breached accuracy rules. You've got no chance.
 
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"There's no press here!"
 
I used some of your excellent text from your post :D:drool:
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This was my favourite bit of my complaint:

Just this week the BBC has been reporting on the effects of online trolling and how damaging they can be to the individual. Either Kuenssberg knew very well that her announcing his account to her 1m+ followers would result in vicious dogpiling from right wing trolls or she is so out of touch with the modern world and political environment that she naively thought it would simply highlight who he was to the public with no further repercussions. If it's the former she is an absolute disgrace and should not be in her position. If it's the latter she is an absolute embarrassment and should not be in her position.
 
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This was my favourite bit of my complaint:

Just this week the BBC has been reporting on the effects of online trolling and how damaging they can be to the individual. Either Kuenssberg knew very well that her announcing his account to her 1m+ followers would result in vicious dogpiling from right wing trolls or she is so out of touch with the modern world and political environment that she naively thought it would simply highlight who he was to the public with no further repercussions. If it's the former she is an absolute disgrace and should not be in her position. If it's the latter she is an absolute embarrassment and should not be in her position.
Bosh! Hope they make her read every complaint, think she'll get quite a few!
 
Meanwhile...

JOHNSON: "Get Pexbo!"
KUENSSBERG: "Jawohl, mein Fuhrer!"
 
I can understand mentioning that he's a labour activist. But for the life of me I can't understand why she'd share his twitter handle. How fecking irresponsible is that? That's almost doxxing.
 
Conspiracy theorists out again.

Context:
Tweet 1:


Tweet 2:


ie, this thing happened, here's the person who did it, and here's what he says about it. You know, reporting.

I mean, that so bad? Really?
 
"If she smokes, she pokes"

Thats what was going through Johnson head in that photo.
 
Conspiracy theorists out again.

Context:
Tweet 1:


Tweet 2:


ie, this thing happened, here's the person who did it, and here's what he says about it. You know, reporting.

I mean, that so bad? Really?


I don't think there was a need to share his Twitter handle. Twitter being full of special angry people tends to lead to an inbox full of bile.
 
ie, this thing happened, here's the person who did it, and here's what he says about it. You know, reporting.

I mean, that so bad? Really?
Yeah just because you wank over her doesn't make this situation any better. Also she isn't even in the hospital but somewhere else watching it on the telly ?

This how the story should be reported

 
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I don't think there was a need to share his Twitter handle. Twitter being full of special angry people tends to lead to an inbox full of bile.

She's simply sharing a status he chose to put out. He made himself known to be that guy and put out his own tweet on the incident, she's done nothing wrong than to report it as part of her news.

I haven't been following the general political climate as closely as some on this thread so maybe there's something I'm missing. But I'd like to learn why this reporter from BBC is so avidly hated on here, or why she's deemed biased etc.
 
I've complained to the BBC about Kuenssberg too.

Never done it before and it probably won't mean anything but they need to know how many people think she's a disgrace.
 
My complaint to the BBC received this reply:

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She's simply sharing a status he chose to put out. He made himself known to be that guy and put out his own tweet on the incident, she's done nothing wrong than to report it as part of her news.

I haven't been following the general political climate as closely as some on this thread so maybe there's something I'm missing. But I'd like to learn why this reporter from BBC is so avidly hated on here, or why she's deemed biased etc.

For me it was unnecessary to share his Twitter handle. I don't think she deserves to be sacked over it but in today's climate it could cause some problems.

The BBC isn't biased at all though, it's a claim levied at it by people on all sides which for me suggests it is fair.

And I guess she's hated because she doesn't crucify the Tory's at every chance. All part of this petty politics culture that plagues the world.
 
For me it was unnecessary to share his Twitter handle. I don't think she deserves to be sacked over it but in today's climate it could cause some problems.

The BBC isn't biased at all though, it's a claim levied at it by people on all sides which for me suggests it is fair.

And I guess she's hated because she doesn't crucify the Tory's at every chance. All part of this petty politics culture that plagues the world.

Yeah. I'm really trying to understand politics and party views properly but whatever I read has an angle. I thought on paper Lib Dems are fine because they aren't ultra right or left. And then on the caf I find the general view is that Swindon is a pussy bitch and no one likes Lib Dems either.

Basically all parties suck and were fecked!
 
Yeah. I'm really trying to understand politics and party views properly but whatever I read has an angle. I thought on paper Lib Dems are fine because they aren't ultra right or left. And then on the caf I find the general view is that Swindon is a pussy bitch and no one likes Lib Dems either.

Basically all parties suck and were fecked!

I am a big believer that voting is important and we all should vote but as you say, the options are dreadful right now. I don't know how anyone can defend any of them to be perfectly honest.

For me, I focus on the issues local to me and vote accordingly.
 
For me it was unnecessary to share his Twitter handle. I don't think she deserves to be sacked over it but in today's climate it could cause some problems.

The BBC isn't biased at all though, it's a claim levied at it by people on all sides which for me suggests it is fair.

And I guess she's hated because she doesn't crucify the Tory's at every chance. All part of this petty politics culture that plagues the world.
The BBC in general may not be biased but Kuenssberg is blatantly biased towards BJ, it’s not even hidden nowadays.

You’re taking your stance because you are also pro BJ.