Westminster Politics

they dont have a choice.

Their choice comes from not rejoining his government in which case it can't continue. In truth any party decision will be followed, he isn't going to ignore a party decision and just pretend he hasn't been shoved out.
 
who's left to take over?

Can sunak and javid come back?
 
So he has until the autumn to feck up the country even more. Great.
He'll invoke order 66 at his press conference. Raab will then immediately become the murderbot we all know he is, and the Russians will start landing around an hour later.....
 
Continuing until Autumn means one of two things, or even both:

1. He’s clearing up his mess and covering for or clearing the illegalities.
2. He’s not planning to leave at all and is just buying himself time to win them back over.
 
Continuing until Autumn means one of two things, or even both:

1. He’s clearing up his mess and covering for or clearing the illegalities.
2. He’s not planning to leave at all and is just buying himself time to win them back over.

Definitely 2. Classic Boris move.

Also.

 
Continuing until Autumn means one of two things, or even both:

1. He’s clearing up his mess and covering for or clearing the illegalities.
2. He’s not planning to leave at all and is just buying himself time to win them back over.
He's definitely up to summat. There's no way the tubby little prick is just gonna walk away.
 
He’s not planning on going anywhere. He’ll be pulling every string he can in the next few weeks.
 
Government has to run, it has to work so until there is a new leader they have to work with him.
What do they do until a new leader is appointed ? Refuse to work with him and basically the country has no government.
I don't agree with it and don't fully understand it, unless you know better.

Mate you don't actually think any of these cnuts do anything do you? They're all backed up by the civil service and everything will carry on fine with or without any ministers or 'leader'. Îf anything it will run better.
 
Government has to run, it has to work so until there is a new leader they have to work with him.
What do they do until a new leader is appointed ? Refuse to work with him and basically the country has no government.
I don't agree with it and don't fully understand it, unless you know better.
Firstly, there is a deputy PM, they are there for precisely such an occasion as this. He could resign today, Raab is immediately temporary PM and a new government installed, likely with many posts re-appointed as is, and it could all be done within a day or two.

Seondly, Boris can say "I resign effective October 1st" and the Tory MPs can say "Nope, no-one will accept any government positions under you, we will now go to the 1922 committee, change the rules and trigger a VoNC, at which point you're out early next week".

Thirdly, a decent sized group of MPs could make it clear they will not vote for anyone during the leadership elections who consents to this temporary retainment of power.

Imagine the damage to the Conservatives: dozens of MPs including government officials and secretaries of state have come out and publically stated Boris has failed to meet the standards of a PM and of being a serial liar. How can any temporary government have any authority or credibility in such a situation? How can he represent the UK internationally under such circumstances? Every single debate and PMQs they will get eviscerated because they are being lead by such a person. Nothing the government states between now and that date would be credible.

What would be concerning is if he does make this statement because it would almost certainly have been cleared with key sections of the party, he wouldn't come out and say this if he didn't know it would be accepted.
 
Mate you don't actually think any of these cnuts do anything do you? They're all backed up by the civil service and everything will carry on fine with or without any ministers or 'leader'. Îf anything it will run better.

Ministers set the policies and legislation, Civil Servants implement the policies and legislation. Without a functioning Government you cannot implement any policies or legislation and therefore the country will come to a standstill as it is now.
 
He really can't, but he wants more time in office to a) run the shredder and b) set up his next gig. It's all about Boris and always will be.

I think he's called it this way because it buys him as much time as possible as PM. I also don't believe he'll necessarily walk away quietly when Autumn rolls around.
 
Ministers set the policies and legislation, Civil Servants implement the policies and legislation. Without a functioning Government you cannot implement any policies or legislation and therefore the country will come to a standstill as it is now.
This government already does feck all, it's not going to change much. If legislation has already passed then it will continue to be implemented by the civil service regardless of the government
 
He should come out for his next public appearance bald and pretend he's always been bald

That will start to win people over
 
Ministers set the policies and legislation, Civil Servants implement the policies and legislation. Without a functioning Government you cannot implement any policies or legislation and therefore the country will come to a standstill as it is now.
That was my thoughts, but like I said I dont fully know.
In my mind and I maybe wrong, is it similar to the US not approving the budget and parts of government closing down
 
This government already does feck all, it's not going to change much. If legislation has already passed then it will continue to be implemented by the civil service regardless of the government

There is a number of day to day discussions on new legislation and policies. A number of things occur in the background. It's not as simple as just carrying on. New requests to the Treasury for example cannot be approved.
 
That was my thoughts, but like I said I dont fully know.
In my mind and I maybe wrong, is it similar to the US not approving the budget and parts of government closing down
Not really, in the US without an approved budget the federal governement can't spend a dollar so things really do shut down. In the UK the day to day work of government could continue for a bit. Its when things like spending needs approving by a department's minster and policy decisions need making/renewing that things will start to get messy.
 
He really can't, but he wants more time in office to a) run the shredder and b) set up his next gig. It's all about Boris and always will be.

No.10 right now...

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So presumably one the dist has settled he can quietly rescind his resignation?

Honestly, I've never know anything like this.
 
Last few pages have made for fascinating reading. Question: do your ministries not have career staff who can man them in case MPs step down?

The Civil Service staff remain in post, but ultimate sign off and running of these departments come from assigned Ministers to each.

The agenda of each Department is driven by government policy, which again is Minister lead/communicated.
 
Is there a chance of Rees-Mogg becoming Prime Minister?

As much as I feel sympathy for the decent half of Britain, that would be fecking hilarious.