Throw the 2 in jail and everyone’s a bit happier then
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BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson's 'bodies pile high' comments prompt criticism
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56890714
Check out the headline on the BBC with what's been reported he actually said. Hmmm
Edit: in the mobile version it's "bodies could pile high" which is totally different in tone and context and I'm not sure where that's come from.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56890714
Check out the headline on the BBC with what's been reported he actually said. Hmmm
Edit: in the mobile version it's "bodies could pile high" which is totally different in tone and context and I'm not sure where that's come from.
It's disgusting, and the sort of abuse you'd see the cops go after for if it was some random yob on the train or at a right wing protest.
Are we really debating who is worse: a Tory scumbag who got thrown under a bus or another Tory scumbag who threw him under said bus and may themselves now be under bus bound?
If you can't see that you are not looking.What
He definitely did not say that.
Why?
Because Michael Gove says so. So it must be true mustn't it....
Why?
Because Michael Gove says so. So it must be true mustn't it....
I expect that Cummings is not going to reveal anything that would prevent him from working in Government again. The press seem to have forgotten that he was originally Gove's special adviser, Govey is seeing his way into No10 and Cummings might just get back in a nice job after being the king maker.
Yes, I wouldn't disagree. To some extent every PM's career (no matter how strong they are at their zenith) ends in failure, its just a question of time.
Boris is set fair just now, Labour cannot lay a glove on him, at least outside the Westminster 'bubble', his 'foes' inside the Tory party have been weakened and Boris sails on-wards.He will be overturned, eventually, at the moment its more likely to be from inside the Tory Party than outside.
Official Enquiries and the like are only useful in bringing down a PM when the opposition is at least buoyed up by its own supporters, but Labour is in mortal danger, with its loss of the red wall and it might now even lose the Hartlepool seat, which the Tories have NEVER won before.
Incredible.
Wonder if Boris plays the lottery, if he doesn't he ought too!
Literally all of the right wing press has just turned on him. If that’s not a clear indication that his political capital is spent and they need to bring in the next tool for their next task I’m not sure what is.
The sad thing is not that he said "let the bodies pile up" it is that the bodies piled up because of his actions.
Indeed.
I have been a little surprised that it is the right wing type papers who are leading on this latest round of so called revaluations.
And as there are no real Labour type papers, that is at least encouraging.
Spot on. With all the daily updates on progress of the vaccine, many tend to forget about the truly awful number of infections and deaths.
And that is precisely why Boris is and will do absolutely anything to delay the necessary public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic.
His 'political capital' outside Westminster is high, see the polls.
I agree, the right wing press are 'piling in' because they are rubbing their hands expecting more exposures from Cumming, but its nothing to do with political capital its to do with a long running (insider) story that's 'got legs'. In any other situation it would be bad news for the PM, however somewhat like Blair before him Boris is becoming 'Mr Teflon'.
Boris has always been something of a Maverick, its almost expected he will say things that afterwards he retracts or denies, this is the 'full throttle' Boris, which many people seem to like. Of course his luck will run out eventually, but to me its unlikely at the moment because if there is a 'cabal' inside the Tories, fermenting discord, it's not big enough...yet, and Labour is all over the place.
I reckon Boris will be gone by the autumn.
I'm shite at remembering details, but I think in the past Gove has been overtly loyal to whoever he is backing, only putting the boot in when he judges the time is right. I bet on him to win the last leadership election (at good odds), I'll be bleeding annoyed if he makes it this time instead.
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Not if the Tories win in Hartlepool!
If that happens Boris will be carried shoulder high around Tory HQ dressed in a toga and with a laurel wreath on his head.
I thought Sunak was nailed on at one point but he seems to have been very quiet the last few months, budget aside.
He does seem to be a favourite with the press, but I'm not sure how he'll go down with the very elderly Tory membership when it comes to voting. Now is his best chance though, when he's been handing money out and before he has to start telling us how to pay for it.
I agree from within the Tory ranks Gove is the one who will step up and play the leader offside, but only when the conditions are right! Gove has stood on too many Tory toes, and has virtually 0 appeal with the public. However as you say he has been King-maker before and he plays the long...long game.
I don’t see Gove winning any leadership contest, I don’t think he’s liked by the membership so he wouldn’t get the vote.
Sunak will be the next PM, I’d be a lot on that.
This seems much more likely. Tory internal power struggles is all they care about.
Odds are on it being sunak... but if gove can make it to the final two (though priti patel will also be a contender for that spot as well)
But if he gets in the final two and cummings can suddenly find lots of stuff to suggest eat out to help out was a total mess of an idea that might be enough to persuade a lot of the octogenarian Conservative members to vote for the polite white chap.
Given that gove seems so focussed on becoming PM one day I imagine something similar to that is in his head
I thought the Torys always choose the candidate most likely to win the election ? That can't be Gove ? He looks like a proper lizard person.
He looks like Goebbels!
He IS a lizard person, but he might actually make Starmer look good.
The right wing press are also feeding the masses sycophantic revisionism like this, even using his own recklessness in catching it as some form of defence.
THE SUN SAYS
Boris Johnson’s every act since Covid struck suggests a PM who would do anything to avoid ‘bodies piled high’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14773772/boris-johnson-everything-but-callous-remark-reported/
Odds Slashed On Boris Exit This Year As Pressure Mounts On PM
Johnson 3/1 From 6/1 To Be Gone By 2022
Boris Johnson is set to come under even more pressure if the latest betting patterns are to be believed after he was gambled to be ousted from Downing Street as early as this year.
Criticism of the PM mounted on Tuesday as Labour accused him of lying about who paid for renovations of his Downing Street flat, while new allegations claim Johnson told aides in September that he would rather let coronavirus ‘rip’ than impose a second lockdown.
Now the chances of a Tory leadership election being triggered in the near future are getting shorter as BoyleSports cut the odds on him being replaced this year in half from 6/1 to 3/1. It’s also an even money shot from 2/1 that a new leader is in place by the time the Conservatives go into their next general election campaign.
Chancellor Rishi Sunak is the 2/1 favourite be the next Tory leader, but Michael Gove is a notable mover in the market after falling into 6/1 from 11/1 to replace Johnson despite backing his party leader this week.
Lawrence Lyons, spokesperson for BoyleSports said: “Boris Johnson has already denied some damaging leaks but as the week goes on the pressure only seems to be increasing. The odds on him being replaced are going in the opposite direction and after a significant spike in speculation we’ve had no choice but to cut him into 3/1 from 6/1 to be gone by the end of the year.”
ENDS
Year Boris Johnson Is Replaced As PM
3/1 2021
5/1 2022
1/2 2023 or later
Boris Johnson to be Tory leader at next general election
EVS No
5/6 Yes
Next Conservative Party Leader
2/1 Rishi Sunak
13/2 Michael Gove
15/2 Jeremy Hunt
9/1 Liz Truss
14/1 Dominic Raab
16/1 Sajid Javid
16/1 Priti Patel
22/1 Amber Rudd
22/1 Tom Tugendhat
25/1 bar
That list of possible replacements must be rather depressing.
Imagine Brain of Britain Truss as the fourth favourite.
I gave up after Jeremy Hunt.
Or, they're normalising apathy in the wake of tens of thousands of people dying unnecessarily.
Telegraph columnist, who will no doubt write an objective article on this.
I can see cummings leaking and briefing more and more over the next few weeks
The real challange will be can they force a resignation as im sure nobody fancies being seen with blood on their hands by mounting a formal leadership bid
Surprised Jacob isnt in the running - I think amongst the eligable voters he would do really well
Tugendhat. Had to check that was a real name.
Boris Johnson should be arrested
Can't wait to see how Johnson wriggles out of this one.
*Johnson wriggles out of it easily*
Oh.
Here's a picture of the skip he is living in from five years ago;
Unless Cameron and May ran around flinging shit on the walls since then, of course...
At today's PMQ, Starter has plenty of ammunition to nail Boris.
He absolutely must not allow Boris to claim that he is totally focused on the vaccination programme. That process is now fully established and Johnson is actually spending his time campaigning.
Starmer must not let Boris evade his questions and he must tie him down.
He's had plenty of ammunition since he became Labour leader. Been weak as piss. Might as well be a Tory.