Westminster Politics


Yep that’s going to make the county a nicer place to live. The majority of people get an extra £17 in their monthly pay packet and public services are cut by billions. Who needs working roads, health service, education, police, libraries, etc etc?
 
Yep that’s going to make the county a nicer place to live. The majority of people get an extra £17 in their monthly pay packet and public services are cut by billions. Who needs working roads, health service, education, police, libraries, etc etc?

Just a final push to wreck and privatise on the way out. Sadly this country is the perfect place to pilot extreme capitalism as it has been and always will be, full of serfs.
 
Mental. So they're blaming the recession on people not spending as much, after people changed their spending habits due to the cost of living crisis they allowed to happen, and they spent the entirety of last year telling us we can't be paid more because it will make inflation worse.

The only bright side to all of this is it's proof the Tories can't be trusted with even the economy.
 
I live in Rochdale and the by-election here is a total bloody mess. The two candidates I'd naturally consider to vote for (Greens and Labour) have both withdrawn and I'm completely unsure what to do now. My real fear is a very small turnout with votes split across the number of small local candidates, meaning Galloway gets in. I know the seat will go Labour again at the General Election, but the intermediate time could be awful. I'm already avoiding the town centre to miss politicians.
 
Yep that’s going to make the county a nicer place to live. The majority of people get an extra £17 in their monthly pay packet and public services are cut by billions. Who needs working roads, health service, education, police, libraries, etc etc?

Double that £17 by cancelling Netflix and you’ll be in a 5 bed mansion in no time.
 
Entering another recession before getting out of the last one

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God I’m getting a panic attack just imagining how GB news would review this film.
Title: "Children of Wokeness: A Dystopian Nightmare of Liberal Hysteria"

In this dystopian delusion, "Children of Men" paints a bleak picture of a world without children, conveniently blaming it on a mysterious infertility crisis. But what's truly infertile is its woke narrative, pushing leftist agendas down our throats like bitter medicine.

The film's protagonist, Theo, played by Clive Owen, is a shell of a man, just like the film itself, lacking any depth or nuance. Instead of embracing traditional values, Theo is a spineless pawn, dancing to the tune of the leftist propaganda machine.

Director Alfonso Cuarón attempts to dazzle with his cinematography, but it's all smoke and mirrors to distract from the film's true purpose: brainwashing the masses into accepting the liberal agenda. From heavy-handed immigration allegories to thinly veiled anti-capitalist rhetoric, "Children of Men" is a leftist fever dream.

And let's not forget the film's portrayal of women, reducing them to mere vessels for political messaging rather than fully realized characters. It's as if the filmmakers believe women are incapable of agency without the guiding hand of progressivism.

Ultimately, "Children of Men" is nothing more than a cautionary tale of what happens when the woke mob takes control. It's time to wake up and reject this leftist nonsense masquerading as entertainment.
 
Mental. So they're blaming the recession on people not spending as much, after people changed their spending habits due to the cost of living crisis they allowed to happen, and they spent the entirety of last year telling us we can't be paid more because it will make inflation worse.

The only bright side to all of this is it's proof the Tories can't be trusted with even the economy.
That last bit is key.

If there's any positives we can take from these torturous, calamitous 14 years is that it's finally put to bed this notion of the Tories being the party of the economy and responsible spending. That was the only crutch they had going for them every election. Add to that their failed pledges on crime and immigration.

With a generation of voters who've now been shafted by them, I hope it keeps them out of power indefinitely or at the very least for a generation.
 
With a generation of voters who've now been shafted by them, I hope it keeps them out of power indefinitely or at the very least for a generation.

Look at what happened to the Lib Dem’s off of one failed coalition. The tories have done far more to disillusion and disenfranchise a much wider section of the voter base. There are a lot of people now (and I include myself in this) who can confidently say they will never vote Tory after this.

I don’t see how their party recovers from here other than increasingly leverage right wing media propaganda, and hoping for a war (and being able to successfully pitch themselves as the strong tough leaders needed in wartime)
 
Tories lose Kingswood to Labour in a 16% swing. Turnout 37%. Reform took over 10% of the vote, Lib Dems lost their deposit:



Gossip also suggests Labour have beaten the Tories in Wellingborough
 
Tories took an absolute pasting in Wellingborough, losing nearly 40% of their vote. Labour wins handsomely. Lib Dems and Greens lost their deposit, Reform did fairly well again. Turnout was 38%:



Edit: Sir John Curtice reckons it's the "biggest ever drop in Tory support in a post-war by-election...second biggest post-war swing Tory>Labour (28.5%)"
 
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Congratulations to all parties for inspiring 63% of voters to stay at home.
 
It’s today mate! I’m off to vote in a little while, make sure you don’t forget!

Thank you and yes we have both voted for the successful labour candidate who has won Kingswood from the Tories.
 
Honestly. Seeing that pr1ck JRM trying to justify why these latest 2 Tory by-election defeats were 'not as bad as they could have been'.
The country is in a mess.
It is in a recession.
Nothing works properly.
Trying to get a GP appointment is getting more and more difficult.
The Tories have now lost 9 by-elections in a row.
And JRM thinks it could have been worse...
 
Honestly. Seeing that pr1ck JRM trying to justify why these latest 2 Tory by-election defeats were 'not as bad as they could have been'.
The country is in a mess.
It is in a recession.
Nothing works properly.
Trying to get a GP appointment is getting more and more difficult.
The Tories have now lost 9 by-elections in a row.
And JRM thinks it could have been worse...

Nothing will please me more than that Cnut losing his seat in a general election.
 
Honestly. Seeing that pr1ck JRM trying to justify why these latest 2 Tory by-election defeats were 'not as bad as they could have been'.
The country is in a mess.
It is in a recession.
Nothing works properly.
Trying to get a GP appointment is getting more and more difficult.
The Tories have now lost 9 by-elections in a row.
And JRM thinks it could have been worse...
He attended the by election as a representative for GB News and not the Tories. Says it all
 
As a non-Brit I need to ask this. What can trigger an election if a government doesn't call one by dissolving Parlament? Can Sunak and his Eton boys just squat on Nr 10 until the 5 years are up? Is there nothing the opposition can do to trigger one? More than anything I'm curious as to how much longer Britons have to endure this state of affairs.
 
As a non-Brit I need to ask this. What can trigger an election if a government doesn't call one by dissolving Parlament? Can Sunak and his Eton boys just squat on Nr 10 until the 5 years are up? Is there nothing the opposition can do to trigger one? More than anything I'm curious as to how much longer Britons have to endure this state of affairs.

Yes, they can squat until the 5 years are up. Only the Government has the legal power to call an election.

If they lose a vote of confidence (almost impossible) they still have no legal duty to call an election.
 
Yes, they can squat until the 5 years are up. Only the Government has the legal power to call an election.

If they lose a vote of confidence (almost impossible) they still have no legal duty to call an election.
That's pretty sad. So basically, unless there's huge protests with outbreaks of civil unrest, you're stuck with the Tories until they want to lose their jobs, right?
 
That's pretty sad. So basically, unless there's huge protests with outbreaks of civil unrest, you're stuck with the Tories until they want to lose their jobs, right?
Yes and given their majority they can give all their mates knighthoods, tax cuts, jobs on the board of the BBC etc before they go.
 
A government is elected for a certain time span. If the opposition had the power to call a new election whenever they wanted it would be hard to govern in a meaningful way ( seems like it is hard in the uk anyway...)
 
A government is elected for a certain time span. If the opposition had the power to call a new election whenever they wanted it would be hard to govern in a meaningful way ( seems like it is hard in the uk anyway...)

Yeah but the problem is it’s not a fixed date; if they want to call a snap election because the polls, by some miracle, suggests they might win they can. And then we end up stuck with them until they decide it’s in their interest to call another one (within five years)
 
Yeah but the problem is it’s not a fixed date; if they want to call a snap election because the polls, by some miracle, suggests they might win they can. And then we end up stuck with them until they decide it’s in their interest to call another one (within five years)
I guess you can argue that an democratic elected government have a mandate to govern, for 5 years in this case, or until the next election. But I don't know, where I live a government is elected for 4 years, with a set date for the next election.
 
A government is elected for a certain time span. If the opposition had the power to call a new election whenever they wanted it would be hard to govern in a meaningful way ( seems like it is hard in the uk anyway...)
Oh I absolutely agree with that on principle. It's more about how much mismanagement and bad governance you can have before some instance/law steps in and tries to bring about meaningful change. In some countries the head of state can step in and call for a new government to be formed.
 
The FPTP system is what straddles UK politics and is self perpetuating.

A Tory government with a large majority of 80+ seats is coming to an end and is likely to be replaced by a Labour Government with a similar large majority. The hope is Labour will do a better job for the majority of the populace, but there is no guarantee.

'Events' (outside the governments control) as Harold Macmillan explained can be instrumental in ruining everything; as Suez did for Eden, Iraq for Blair (although he got 3 terms), Financial Crisis did for Brown, Brexit for Cameron and May, Covid for Boris; Liz Truss (for herself really) Money Markets; Small Boats for Sunak.

When Starmer takes over there are no shortage of internal issues, like cost of living, housing, NHS waiting lists/dentistry etc., but there are enormous external 'events,' Wars, those continuing (or further likely to break out) in eastern Europe, Middle-East, etc. mass migration on a hitherto unimaginable level, and of course dealing with climate change.

Why do we persist with a FPTP system? Because there is a 'gut' feeling, than when the country is facing crisis, or when sh** lands from a great height and we didn't see it coming (you can ask why again some other time), the government has to be able to act quickly and it is only with an overall majority (gained by FPTP) can this happen.

Where does this 'gut' feeling come from... law making based for centuries, mainly on precedent.
 
I guess you can argue that an democratic elected government have a mandate to govern, for 5 years in this case, or until the next election. But I don't know, where I live a government is elected for 4 years, with a set date for the next election.

Certainly.

The issue here however is that there's a conveyor belt of ever changing Tory PM's, with different agendas and representing different factions of the party. They aren't governing on the mandate from 2019. They are clinging on and squeezing every last penny they can before they're booted out.