I've changed my mind. I'll be as kiddy as a motherfcker if we beat City now. I might even get Moyes' face tattood on my nuts.
Who here hopes United get spanked tonight?
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It pains me to say this, but now the season is pretty much over for us, I would actually take a spanking from Everton if it meant he would be getting the sack the following morning.
Terrible thing to say about the team I love I know
Terrible thing to say about the team I love I know
Nothing wrong with saying that. We have nothing to lose for the rest of this season but we have one thing to win: Moyes getting sacked.It pains me to say this, but now the season is pretty much over for us, I would actually take a spanking from Everton if it meant he would be getting the sack the following morning.
Terrible thing to say about the team I love I know
I'd take five 0-5's, gladly, if that means he gets the boot.
It pains me to say this, but now the season is pretty much over for us, I would actually take a spanking from Everton if it meant he would be getting the sack the following morning.
Terrible thing to say about the team I love I know
I would too, if it meant for 100% that he would get sacked and I think many others would agree . Long term gain for short term pain. Otherwise we can just expect spankings from all the other big sides continuously whilst we play defensive hoofball for however many years we have him.
I would be surprised if the results of the next few matches have any bearing on the manager's future at the club. The club should already have plans in place for the summer transfer window, and key to that is whether Moyes will be retained for next seasen. If Moyes is to be sacked in the next few weeks, I think those in charge will have already made the decision.
What @Angelinho said. Another spanking at this stage is just piling misery on top of misery, with no benefit to it at all. Its a horrible prospect.
It just wouldn't make any sense not to just sack him right away if we'd already made up our minds. But I agree, I doubt the last few games can swing it either way and the fact he's still here means he'll be here next season. Which is so depressing. If we had lost to Olympiakos, that might have been the last straw but because we managed to pull through and got a few wins against a few poor teams, the board probably thinks all will be fine next season. Hopefully they'll accept by December that things will never be fine under Moyes, and we'll only waste six more months. That means we've endured more than half of it already. I guess that's something.
It pains me to say this, but now the season is pretty much over for us, I would actually take a spanking from Everton if it meant he would be getting the sack the following morning.
Terrible thing to say about the team I love I know
This is completely fecked up.
That's what this season has brought us to.
There's no point anymore. He's here to stay.
The UCL exit and subsequent non qualification for next season was the last chance of perhaps the club making a change. The fact that he seems to have come away unscathed means he will be here next season.
As it stands, he'd have to piss on Saf's statue, sleep with Jimmy Lumsdens wife and call the Glazers cnuts in public to get the sack this season.
We are just better off accepting that he will be here for the foreseeable future (its hard I know) and hoping for the best.
The UCL exit and subsequent non qualification for next season was the last chance of perhaps the club making a change. The fact that he seems to have come away unscathed means he will be here next season.
As it stands, he'd have to piss on Saf's statue, sleep with Jimmy Lumsdens wife and call the Glazers cnuts in public to get the sack this season.
We are just better off accepting that he will be here for the foreseeable future (its hard I know) and hoping for the best.
I believe I'm thinking about the future and well-being of the club actually. I'm not at all ashamed to say it. It's fair if people, for whatever reason, still believe that Moyes is the right manager. But anyone who secretly believes that he is not and still pretends otherwise and sings his name at games are betraying both themselves and the club. I firmly believe that this club is only going downhill as long as Moyes is here so why would I hope for anything other than what gets him fired so I can start feeling positive about our future again? It's not like I felt this way when the season started.
Hate too see you if we go a few years in the wilderness then.
Dunno, if Everton were to beat us as convincingly as they beat Arsenal then I think it could be the final straw. For the fans and the board.
Jepp, then a lot of fans would fade away I think, many on here as well. It's not what this season has brought us to, as he said. It's what this season has revealed about our fans.
We've heard that way too many times this season and nothings happened. We've sunk to all kind of lows, if he was going to be sacked it would be done by now
The "moral high ground" is such a sad place.
Have you ever heard about "tanking" in the NBA? I bet @Drifter has being an American. It's the same principle really. No need to act all that dramatic about it. (or pretend to act that way to score some e-points)
Having said that, he's not getting the sack either way, so it's pointless anyway.
Give me a break, I had 20 over years in the wilderness, I've done my time, I've seen us relegated when I was a little boy, how so you think that felt buddy? We've moved on from that in the past 20 odd years only for this fecking shithouse manger to smash it all to pieces in the space of a few months.
What has this season revealed exactly? That fans of one of the four biggest clubs in the world are underwhelmed by the performance of an unproven manager who has taken us down to 7th and would like to see the mistake rectified as soon as possible? I'll still support United if we go through hard times but I have no idea why we think it is appropriate to be taking such risks on a man with no previous links to the club after Fergie worked so hard to turn us into a genuinely elite institution.
That we want our team to win? Crappy fans indeed.
I don't know how these houlier-than-thou fans have convinced themselves that watching your team underperform consistently and speaking out means you're a bad fan. It's a natural human reaction that shows you care. Watching this mess week after week and not reacting to it shows that you care more about proving what a good loyal fan you are than what's happening to the club you pretend to love.
Exactly, it seems some would rather support Moyes, to whom we owe nothing, than the good of the club, who I have given my heart & my soul to all my life.
I thought no one was bigger than the club, that the club comes first over all, but no put Moyes first, it doesn't matter about the club as long as Moyes is given time to wreck the club even more.
Doubt it. We've been speculating aboug whether the next defeat will be the final straw since December and they never have been, be it the cup loss to Swansea, the home spankings by City and Liverpool or whatever.
I did sense a bit of an "end is nigh" vibe in the press after those two defeats in quick succession, especially with the Olympiakos debacle around the same time.
Mind you, if he can survive those three games...
Yup, he has sack immunity this season, it's pointless to wish heavy losses as it won't change a thing, Everton will be a humiliating night for Moyes though, as an individual when they invariably turn us over and give Moyes new side, the former champions no less a lesson on technical football, while the Evertonians sing, cheer and belittle him from the stands, It'll be a hard night for him, not to mention the press fallout when even the dullest bulb working for The Sun can then compare and contrast the two teams fortunes since the summer.
Kind of know what you mean but I still think the board is too stubborn to admit they got it wrong and will persevere for at least another season
Agree with all that. If Everton do win I kind of hope they go on to nick fourth. Would be interesting to see what happens at Arsenal. Christ, to think loads of their fans are calling for Wenger's head...
Maybe people on a forum are capable of more objectivity than a group following the herd instinct, most of who would have been on the piss for a good few hours on the way up there.
Maybe. Maybe they also aren't drunk sheep.
I'm going to be honest here.
As someone who's firmly been in the MoyesOut camp I've never wanted us to take a hiding. I've wanted us to get as far as we could in the champions league and I've wanted us to win every game so long as there was a chance of us making top 4.
Now that we have nothing to play for I think I'll be happy for us to get tonked by Everton if it meant Moyes was to go. Though in all truthfullness I still think he'll be here next season.
As someone who's firmly been in the MoyesOut camp I've never wanted us to take a hiding. I've wanted us to get as far as we could in the champions league and I've wanted us to win every game so long as there was a chance of us making top 4.
Now that we have nothing to play for I think I'll be happy for us to get tonked by Everton if it meant Moyes was to go. Though in all truthfullness I still think he'll be here next season.
Possibly but Mancunians are notoriously bloody-minded. Even if they thought Moyes was useless, they would be loathe to acknowledge it in public. The more plausible explanation is that it was an enjoyable game at Newcastle and the sun was shining so they launched into "Moysie give is a wave". It still doesn't change the analysis of whether he is good enough given Newcastle are routinely losing by 3 or 4 at the moment.
He consistently got fan support throughout the season, @MoskvaRed , not just in Newcastle.
I do not doubt that there are those that don't want him, but isn't that hard to believe that he also gets genuine support from the fans, and it kinda sucks when you see internet fans calling them morons for that.
I do not doubt that there are those that don't want him, but isn't that hard to believe that he also gets genuine support from the fans, and it kinda sucks when you see internet fans calling them morons for that.
Not recently he hasn't unless you mistake chanting "20 times" for Moyes support. Ignoring that I did not call them "morons", given you are presumably an internet fan too (I don't recall hearing the expression "kinda sucks" when I was growing up in Manchester), I'm not sure why you are taking this so much to heart. Apologies if you were at St. James's on Saturday.
I will never ever want United to lose a game.
Never said you have, I was talking about Jev. And I referenced his unfortunate post from Newcastle game in mine.
And yeah, I'm not a Mancunian, nor a Englander, I live hundreds of miles from Old Trafford. It still kinda sucks reading crap about matchgoing fans. I didn't take it that much to heart really.
:lol. Are you referring to this forum by any chance?
Ok, fair enough. I guess we are all on edge given we are going through uncharted territories...For what it's worth, the (mainly family) match goers that I know want a change. Not exactly a representative poll admittedly - maybe they are glass half-empty types like me.
Only to some posters...,
People do realise there is still a small chance of top four? Why complain about players giving up but then want the team to start losing? Makes no sense.
So much of what United do publicly these days is coated in a veneer of PR gloss. I imagine, were Moyes to be fired, this wouldn't happen after an embrrassing defeat. Instead, it'd be dressed-up as "mutual consent" or something similar, at season's end, because he'd be taking over at Schalke or the like (as he might well have done were it not for SAF's unexpected offer to him).
It not easy to admit something like that mate! I'm the same as you, I never want us to lose, even this year when it's been so desperate, I still harboured hope that we might come good in the Derby matches against Scouse & Shitty, that we were so close to getting through against Bayern for 70 minutes.
But, it's got to the stage when you have to look at the long term future of the club and I'll be around as a supporter for a lot longer, hopefully (there's that word again), than Moyes.
I did mention in one of the other Moyes clusterfeck threads that the board have likely already made their decision regarding Moyes and what happens in the last 5 matches is unlikely to change that.