Disagree with me all you want, Hazard for me is the most overrated player on the planet. Even Coutinho is better
Who is better: Sanchez or Hazard
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that's not a "title".
That's true. Though he may never reach that ceiling. I think he may have plateaued now.
I disagree with you.
Hazard was superior until very recently. But then something happened, he lost the spark, the finesse, the will. While the young Chilean started dominating for fun, noone can seemingly stop him. Wenger did right with that one. I am very jealous.
Some stupid arguments and opinions going about here, but that's what a forum is for I guess. You cannot possibly say that one or the other is outright best like there's no contest, there are so many factors when you think about it. If you swap Sanchez or Hazard for the other, chances are your team are going to do equally well in my opinion. Both are excellent dribblers in tight spaces, both create something out of nothing and score important goals. Both take smart free-kicks and have a pretty similar style when it comes to delivery and making decisions. If you have a straight choice between the two, you always take Hazard due to him being younger - but that's not what the discussion is about.
Both players are absolute world-class and they are the biggest match-winners in England - every team in the world would be better or equally good compared to what they already have, never worse. Both of these players would on current form and reputation play for PSG, City, Barcelona and Real Madrid without making them worse - on the contrary. Sometimes you have to go because of competition and lack of platform, but Barcelona surely regret selling him on the cheap to Arsenal a few years ago.
Sanchez works harder for his team compared to Hazard, he is very aggressive when he's on a mission. Hazard is way softer in that regards, although you can never know when he does something out of nothing. Sanchez can become moody and sulk quite a bit, but that reputation has come the last two years when he has obviously wanted to move away from an Arsenal-side that have no chance of challenging for the Premier League or the Champions League. If you're doing a rating based on the fact that Messi and Neymar are 10's, these guys are 9's. Both are players you don't want playing against you..... now we have one playing for us. Not possible to deny output though, Sanchez has the higher output - let's see if he can keep it up at Manchester United.
Both players are absolute world-class and they are the biggest match-winners in England - every team in the world would be better or equally good compared to what they already have, never worse. Both of these players would on current form and reputation play for PSG, City, Barcelona and Real Madrid without making them worse - on the contrary. Sometimes you have to go because of competition and lack of platform, but Barcelona surely regret selling him on the cheap to Arsenal a few years ago.
Sanchez works harder for his team compared to Hazard, he is very aggressive when he's on a mission. Hazard is way softer in that regards, although you can never know when he does something out of nothing. Sanchez can become moody and sulk quite a bit, but that reputation has come the last two years when he has obviously wanted to move away from an Arsenal-side that have no chance of challenging for the Premier League or the Champions League. If you're doing a rating based on the fact that Messi and Neymar are 10's, these guys are 9's. Both are players you don't want playing against you..... now we have one playing for us. Not possible to deny output though, Sanchez has the higher output - let's see if he can keep it up at Manchester United.
Hazard easily. He will win you lots of games all by himself. He’s a better age too and would probably be on lower wages.
We missed a serious trick not getting him or Sanchez when they were moving to England. Aguero and De Bryune are another 2 we missed out on big time. Everyone could see Dybala was going to be a star too... I know we can’t sign everyone but any average fan could see any player mentioned above was quality and would definitely improve us now or then.
Still not sure about this signing but I really hope it works out and he doesn’t end up stinking the place out for the last year or two of his deal on those huge wages with us. All while city keep unearthing really promising young players and then we aren’t able to move him on without paying him another fortune to go....
We missed a serious trick not getting him or Sanchez when they were moving to England. Aguero and De Bryune are another 2 we missed out on big time. Everyone could see Dybala was going to be a star too... I know we can’t sign everyone but any average fan could see any player mentioned above was quality and would definitely improve us now or then.
Still not sure about this signing but I really hope it works out and he doesn’t end up stinking the place out for the last year or two of his deal on those huge wages with us. All while city keep unearthing really promising young players and then we aren’t able to move him on without paying him another fortune to go....
I think Hazard is the better player. Definitely has the higher highs and I don't find Alexis to be more consistent. Hazard is more of a game-changer, I think.
If we’d signed hazard, the poll would have been a landslide Hazard victory.
I'm usually objective and could form an opinion for who's better since they play a very similar, if not the same, position. But for the life of me I can't figure out whos better. They are about the same, apart from age which gives Hazard a slight advantage, naturally. If we take a look at the past 2-3 seasons and the current one I'd say they are about the same.
However if we are taking into account the question "for whom?" Then for instance Alexis is better for United or Hazard is better for Real Madrid. We need more end product and effective directness from the wing, Madrid need more chance creation and creativity. Mind I'm just making a wild guess regarding Madrid as I don't follow them much.
Both are elite footballers, awesome assets for any team in the world.
However if we are taking into account the question "for whom?" Then for instance Alexis is better for United or Hazard is better for Real Madrid. We need more end product and effective directness from the wing, Madrid need more chance creation and creativity. Mind I'm just making a wild guess regarding Madrid as I don't follow them much.
Both are elite footballers, awesome assets for any team in the world.
Hazard. Although as we all know Sanchez is a quality player, especially on the sort of form he was last season. Hazard has a capability to transform that whole Chelsea side with moments of genius that probably no other player in the league is capable of. he gives them the opportunity of playing badly and still getting the result cause he'll make something happen.
How so? wasn't Hazard voted second in the player of the year votes last season? this season i'd say Hazard has been better but Sanchez has been sulking, the season before that you could say Sanchez was better.
No chance.
Other way 'round mate.
If City had just signed Sanchez and you did this poll, people would be voting more for Sanchez because he's then seen as unattainable.
Yes. I don't see where I've said otherwise.
How can you conclude that when Sanchez has more goals/assists compared to Hazard pr. game? Hazard has played for a better team all along as well. I think if Sanchez player for Chelsea the last few years, he would have had more goals and assists than Hazard. Furthermore, I think Hazard would have had less goals/assists than Sanchez playing for Arsenal. Saying that - impossible to know.
I've always thought Sanchez, Hazard can be brilliant at times but he's way too inconsistent
Sanchez.
Hazard's been wildly inconsistent. Definitely has an edge in his speed and acceleration but for a main-man in the team he simply scores too little - I dont get how he's been rumoured to take over after Ronaldo.
Hazard's been wildly inconsistent. Definitely has an edge in his speed and acceleration but for a main-man in the team he simply scores too little - I dont get how he's been rumoured to take over after Ronaldo.
Sanchez elevated Arsenal and kept them afloat for quite a long almost by himself. Chile also benefits greatly with evidence of success from having him on the pitch. Hazard had and has better players around him, not to mention his club is serious about title aspirations but he is a stunning player and can change the game in effective fashion, just like Sanchez in recent cup finals.
Imho Sanchez made a mistake in joining Arsenal, especially being here in Kroenke era. He would have way more chances to show his class and had less humiliating experiences such as one against Bayern in two leg match.
Maybe Hazard is minimally a better player but both would make United a truly well-oiled machine.
Imho Sanchez made a mistake in joining Arsenal, especially being here in Kroenke era. He would have way more chances to show his class and had less humiliating experiences such as one against Bayern in two leg match.
Maybe Hazard is minimally a better player but both would make United a truly well-oiled machine.
My thoughts exactly.
I think we've neutralised Hazard a good amount of times though over the years. In general we've been good at this - Also with Sanchez.
Hazard’s technically the better player for me, but Sanchez is more consistent and reliable.
Hazard this season: 8 goals 4 assists
Now consider he has a free role and that players like Son, Alli and Martial has had equally the same end-product so far and they've either not played as much or in the case of Alli (5 goals, 9 assists) he's been underperforming.
To be fair i think Hazard's season so far is pretty much the average season you would expect from him. He simply lacks end product.
Now consider he has a free role and that players like Son, Alli and Martial has had equally the same end-product so far and they've either not played as much or in the case of Alli (5 goals, 9 assists) he's been underperforming.
To be fair i think Hazard's season so far is pretty much the average season you would expect from him. He simply lacks end product.
Don't think there's much in it. But at their best I'd say Sanchez. If I could have either I'd go with Hazard simply because we'd get more years from him.
Hazard. Hazard scares the shite out of me every time he plays against us.
Hazard is equally as patchy, though. He seems to get a free pass for it because he's quite an elegant footballer and he dribbles well.
Hazard's top level is probably higher than Sánchez. But, Hazard is also more inconsistent.
Another point is that, even if they play similar positions, they have different roles. Hazard plays more as a attacking midfielder who might sporadically score. Sánchez is more of a wide forward tasked with scoring the bulk of goals of his team.
In the current situation, the team needs a game changer. While Hazard is a game changer in his own right, an argument can be made for Alexis being better at that than him
Another point is that, even if they play similar positions, they have different roles. Hazard plays more as a attacking midfielder who might sporadically score. Sánchez is more of a wide forward tasked with scoring the bulk of goals of his team.
In the current situation, the team needs a game changer. While Hazard is a game changer in his own right, an argument can be made for Alexis being better at that than him
Yeah. I think so too. Whilst Hazard might show more sparkle when he's bang on form - Sanchez has been more consistent since he's came to the PL and the numbers show that.
Then there is that season when Mourinho got sacked by Chelsea. He completely downed tools - looked like a mediocre footballer at best and went through a barren run without goals or assists.
I don't see how you can read the comments in this thread and come to the conclusion that Hazard gets a free pass. He was named the 2nd best player in the league last year, the best player in the league two years earlier, and yet almost everyone is saying he's inconsistent or only decides to turn up sometimes. That's a theme on this forum ever since his horror season in between those two.
I think his form for Belgium and his obvious disinterest under Mourinho in his last season raises a lot of questions, but his inconsistency is grossly exaggerated. How many playmakers in this league have been in the top three players in 2 out of 3 seasons? I can't think of many. Of those, how many were mercurial talents that lost their rhythm and looked disinterested for large parts of a season or two? I'd be surprised if it wasn't all of them. It almost comes with the territory.
I get why the label sticks. That half-season under Mourinho was embarrassing. Plus he's in an era where he's been contrasted to players largely defined by their killer instinct, and they play in his position. Just a decade earlier the reference points for players in his position were the likes of Ronaldinho, Figo and Nedved.
I just find it strange that so many people have so little time for mercurial playmakers these days. You're either a productive machine or you're an all-action attacker.
Hazard overall. Better dribbler with better ball control I'd say. But Sanchez is more reliable in regards to goals etc - perhaps not as technically talented (although not far off) but can almost function as a striker would with his end product.
He did, but then he wasn't the only one. Costa's goals dried up significantly compared to the previous season, Pedro wasn't offering much in spite of being their big summer signing and the team as a whole looked dreadful...hence their bottom half position when Mourinho left.
I don't think Sanchez's had a period of inconsistency as sustained as that one by Hazard but there have been times during the past year or so where he's looked sort of disinterested, primarily because he's not wanted to be there. Obviously that's been balanced out by plenty of top class performances as well though.
Yet on the back of Sanchez amazing season last March 80% of the forum said Hazard was the best player in the league, Sanchez way behind in 2nd marginally ahead of Aguero for best player in the league. Now its 60/40 all of a sudden.
It's true the whole team underperformed. Pedro tried - I don't think he's the type of player that would make a difference when the whole team is playing shit. Obviously, whatever happened that season - Jose should rightly take some of the blame but the players showed terrible attitude too and Hazard was part of that.
As for the bolded part, Robert Pires said this about Alexis:
So which just further proves that his form dipped cause he was genuinely fed up with the club. I can't blame him for that, if you spent enough time at club and they've shown no ambition then I don't a problem with him wanting to leave. And it's only natural to be unsettled when your future is up in the air.
Sanchez and Kane have been the best players in the league over the last 3-4 seasons in a tier of their own
One point people need to take into account is that Sánchez is a hard worker. He is a high presser of the ball. Hazard is much more laid back in comparison.
Hard to say but I'd probably give the edge to Sanchez due to his end product and consistency. Much harder worker too.
I also think Sanchez is a better fit for us too but that wasn't the question.
I also think Sanchez is a better fit for us too but that wasn't the question.
He isn't anywhere near as patchy as Sanchez. Sanchez has never had a season where he averages 80% pass completion. In general play he constantly gives the ball away. Whereas hazards use of the ball is way better.
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Can we stop with this Hazard is inconsistent nonsense now? The guys had one bad season in his whole career.
Has to be Hazard
I'm more frightened when he has the ball than when Sanchez does
I'm more frightened when he has the ball than when Sanchez does
He is inconsistent, but still one of the best players in the league.
Hazard has the talent to be the best in the world; but he doesn't do those mazy runs that often even though he can, or up his goal scoring to the level of the world's best players.
Why is pass accuracy used to paint one positively and one negatively? Alexis is a monster final third forward, Hazard is a playmaker. Conversely you can cite goal records as a positive for Alexis and a slight on Hazard.