Sassy Colin
Death or the gladioli!
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I think Labour could get in on the promise of a re-referendum or similar.Yeah, I don't think the Tories would have a problem with calling a general election at this point. Labour just don't have the support to beat them, they might as well do it and then they can say that their new leader (Johnson, probably) has the support of the people
The Fixed term act is unimportant surely? On the grounds no act of Parliament can bind another Parliament surely its a simple case of repealing the act if it was needed?
I'm not sure - it would look like sour grapes and we have to remember that Leave won the first time.I think Labour could get in on the promise of a re-referendum or similar.
If he gives us a second referendum, I'll sing his praises to the heavens.I am still not seeing Boris Johnson as PM. They won't actually let him, surely?
A promise to reverse the referendum then. They didn't agree to it after all, they owe nothing.I'm not sure - it would look like sour grapes and we have to remember that Leave won the first time.
Labour could only get in on this message if it turns out that Leave is making an absolute mess of negotiations. But even so, I think the EU would not be happy at an attempt at a re-referendum. I mean, what happens if Leave wins again? Even more financial turmoil and uncertainty! And it would make Labour even more unelectable than the Conservatives they displaced.
Short of a revolt towards the Leave camp, I think a re-referendum is unlikely, not without concessions to halt Article 50 (maybe dropping some of Cameron's negotiated terms?). But that would look weak too.
If he gives us a second referendum, I'll sing his praises to the heavens.
I only mention it because it was his idea. Use the out vote to negotiate better terms, then have a 2nd referendumsIf the second one were different then how could you argue against best of three?
What about Nigel? I'm sure he'll do the fruitcakes proud
Gove showed what a poor public speaker he is in the live debates, so probably him as the next PM.
Actually i think Boris might weasel out of PM position, it's not a surprise that both Boris and Gove wanted Cameron to continue, the next PM will have a huge hell on his hand and probably will end up a scapegoat rather than inspired leader of independence.
The fact that Farron came out and said this, and it made zero news, doesn't bode well. Are they even the fourth party now?If the Lib Dems can find someone charismatic, the promise of annulling Brexit might be enough to take them over the top. Particularly if erstwhile Labour voters have nobody worth voting for in their own party.
There is only one way to get the change we need, and that is to vote to go, because all EU history shows that they only really listen to a population when it says No
Liam Fox. Nailed on.
If the Lib Dems can find someone charismatic, the promise of annulling Brexit might be enough to take them over the top. Particularly if erstwhile Labour voters have nobody worth voting for in their own party.
Boris is a clown .He may keep some amused.But outside of London he's not so loved.
I wouldn't describe it as 'overwhelmingly'. 2010 was a toss-up.London has always voted overwhelmingly Labour at (modern day) GEs, even during Tory landslide victories, and would definitely not vote for him as PM.
As an American, everytime I see US politicians do something stupid, I used to think to myself, "this would never happen in Britain."
How wrong I was. If Boris fecking Johnson actually becomes PM, it's the equivalent of Trump being elected in the US and you guys have lost all right to call Americans stupid.
Hodgson has already proven he has the experience to take us out of Europe.