Who would you have as our new manager

Werder Herzog said:
Say Moyes goes and the staff he has appointed- would anyone want Gary Neville involved at all? Without sounding like a Spurs supporting tosser who wanted Hoddle because he sounded good on telly i think he should be involved somehow.
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No. He's stuck in the past. All the nonsense about wing play, DNA etc.
 
I think our current predicament shows that trying to appoint someone because "they'll stick around for ages like SAF" should not be one of the main criteria for whoever we bring in. Of course it'd be great in an ideal world should we find someone capable of consistent success who also is in for the long haul, but I no longer see it as essential.

Top criteria should be a manager who either has (a) a proven track record of success at the top level or (b) a clear and progressive philosophy about how they want their teams to play (although both would be ideal). We either need to go for someone in the Ancelotti/van Gaal mould who've seen it/done it/bought the T-shirt, and aim for short-term gains, or take a shot at someone in the Pochettino/Simeone mould who while they may not win anything in the first year or so, show clear signs of progression towards an effective tactical approach which, with experience, will bear fruit long-term (see Brenton at Liverpool this season, though the "success" that will bring has yet to be seen).
 
Werder Herzog said:
Say Moyes goes and the staff he has appointed- would anyone want Gary Neville involved at all? Without sounding like a Spurs supporting tosser who wanted Hoddle because he sounded good on telly i think he should be involved somehow.
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I really disagree with most of what Gary Neville has said this season. Wouldn't want him anywhere near the club.
 
I'd probably settle for Beaker from the muppets as of right now.
 
Ringo 07 said:
first choice should be Klopp

Second choice should be anyone of Pochettino, Van Gaal, Roberto Martinez
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Why are people saying this, before this season, you'd never have said Moyes>Martinez, hardly anyone would, funny what a difference one season makes.... If that's the case, surely one season good and will be forgiven?
 
Thomas Tuchel is a man worth watching. I wouldn't be shocked if Tuchel gets a big move soon, he's performing miracles at Mainz. He also likes to bring through youth, which is a big plus. If Klopp did move on, I expect Dortmund to go for Tuchel.
 
the thing is in this day and age you don't know if a lot of these managers would stick around for 10+ years or not because the first wobble sees them get the bullet.
Ancellotti is a great manager and should really be at Chelsea still, they had no good reason to sack him but they did anyway! he'd be my choice and i see no reason why he wouldn't stick around for as long as we wanted him to. RM will probably sack him in the summer after he only wins the treble and we can pick him up then
 
Klopp long term but will not happen
Ancellotti failing that

Hiddink/Van Gaal short term
 
Jaybezia said:
Why are people saying this, before this season, you'd never have said Moyes>Martinez, hardly anyone would, funny what a difference one season makes.... If that's the case, surely one season good and will be forgiven?
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They've both taken a step up and look how differently both are coping. I'm not one to say I would have Martinez here though. But I can see where people are coming from. He has a clear footballing philosophy, won the FA Cup with Wigan, his teams play decent football, he seems assured when interviewed etc.

Moyes on the other hand seems to be sinking. Fast. We play some of the worst football in the league despite having RVP, Rooney, Mata, Januzaj, Welbeck etc. Moyes makes a fool of himself in the media pretty much every single time. He doesn't look at all present on the touchline. The list goes on...
 
Klopp isnt going anywhere this season. Not unless he backs out on everything he's said recently which is unlikely.
 
I actually think someone for the next 2-3 years is ideal. Would coincide with the time when Guardiola should be ready to leave Bayern.
 
Klopp isn't going to leave Dortmund IMO, maybe Queiroz is the best shout. He knows the place, and we did see some decent tactics other than standard 442 when he was here. That and if Rene can be persuaded to join as assistant, even better.
 
Jaybezia said:
Why are people saying this, before this season, you'd never have said Moyes>Martinez, hardly anyone would, funny what a difference one season makes.... If that's the case, surely one season good and will be forgiven?
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it's quite obvious..if Rodgers can do it at Liverpool with not a lot of years of experience managing at the top then why is it so hard to believe that another young manager who is overachieving playing a modern brand of football could not do the same.......Guardiola was able to do it starting at a big club...Mourinho was able to do it when he got a big job offer.....Conte only had 5 years managment experience before getting the Juve gig.....Pochettino and Martinez have had around 5 years in top level management so far
 
I just want someone to come in who will try something new. For all the stick Rodgers may have got last season everyone could see what he was trying to do, his style from Swansea was well regarded and everyone could see he was trying to get the scouse playing the same way. Moyes still hasn't changed anything, he's just walking up an escalator that's going the other way. We need anyone with the guts to come in and try something new.
 
Why is nobody giving Heynckes serious consideration? He'd do an amazing job in he short term and leave us in a much better shape in a couple of years, when he does leave. I'm a fan of his footballing philosophy and style of play and I loved his Bayern more than the current one. If he can get us playing even close to the kind of football his previous team was playing, he'd be well worth the short term hassle.
 
My favorites are

1) Klopp. He did a magnificent job (ie which involved actually winning trophies and not relying on hitting the microphone head with the ball) with a ridiculous budget. He's down to earth, he play attacking football and values everything Manchester United believe

2) Simeone. A hard man on and off the pitch who had done wonders with Athletico on a restrained budget. He's similar to Roy Keane (without being a nutter). Simeone will bring more changes then Klopp as he doesn't rely on wings at all. That would surely give Gary Neville a heart attack

3) Hiddink. At age 67 he's at the wrong end of his career. However the man knows how to stir the boat when things start getting wrong. The only downside is that he's a bit of a short term type of manager

4) Rudy Garcia. He did a fantastic work with Lille, winning them the French league. He's currently doing a great job with Roma where they are currently second ahead of both the Milan clubs

5) De Boer - He's doing wonders at Ajax, playing the creative football everyone at United would like to see.
 
van der star said:
Why is nobody giving Heynckes serious consideration? He'd do an amazing job in he short term and leave us in a much better shape in a couple of years, when he does leave. I'm a fan of his footballing philosophy and style of play and I loved his Bayern more than the current one. If he can get us playing even close to the kind of football his previous team was playing, he'd be well worth the short term hassle.
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He hasn't won anything unlike Moyes.
 
With the way it's gone under Moyes there's this view that we need to ship a lot of players out, when in reality we simply aren't getting the best out of the top players let alone the squad ones.

A new manager now, might be able to save us such a clear out.
 
van der star said:
Why is nobody giving Heynckes serious consideration? He'd do an amazing job in he short term and leave us in a much better shape in a couple of years, when he does leave. I'm a fan of his footballing philosophy and style of play and I loved his Bayern more than the current one. If he can get us playing even close to the kind of football his previous team was playing, he'd be well worth the short term hassle.
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He "retired". I don't think he'd come back after winning a treble to manage the current shite that we've got.
 
Giggs and I don't care that he has no experience.
 
Sandikan said:
With the way it's gone under Moyes there's this view that we need to ship a lot of players out, when in reality we simply aren't getting the best out of the top players let alone the squad ones.

A new manager now, might be able to save us such a clear out.
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I agree. We don't need to ship out a lot of players at all. Some are already at the end of their playing days. Even if Fergie were still in charge, I'd expect to see Evra, Rio, Giggs, and maybe even Fletcher call it a day at the end of this season. We've still got Rooney, RVP, DDG, Rafael, Hernandez, Mata, Kagawa, Jones, Smalling, and Welbeck. Then there's Januzaj on the up along with some very talented youngsters. I'd still keep Ashley Young who seems to be suffering a crisis of confidence. I can't see Fellaini surviving Moyes, and Cleverly and Valencia should probably find new employers. We've got a huge wealth of talent at United. We just need the right manager to get them playing as a winning team again.
 
Baxter said:
He "retired". I don't think he'd come back after winning a treble to manage the current shite that we've got.
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He didn't really retire though, did he? I thought he was taking an extended break from football after Bayern basically let him go. Proper football men like him must get bored out of their minds after a year out of football.
 
van der star said:
He didn't really retire though, did he? I thought he was taking an extended break from football after Bayern basically let him go. Proper football men like him must get bored out of their minds after a year out of football.
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He said this a couple of weeks after leaving Bayern, "“I don’t like definitive statements, but I can assure you that I don’t intend to coach again," he told German magazine Der Spiegel"
 
Baxter said:
He said this a couple of weeks after leaving Bayern, "“I don’t like definitive statements, but I can assure you that I don’t intend to coach again," he told German magazine Der Spiegel"
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Fair enough. Can't really question his decision to bow out after a record breaking season. I still maintain he would have done a tremendous job for us.
 
Its funny that you lot are talking as if this is a realistic option. It doesn't matter how David Moyes performs for the rest of the season or even over the next year, he will be given 2 full years to have a crack. There is no way we would go back on our philosophy which we adopted when we appointed Moyes, otherwise we would appear fickle/rash and ultimately the same as everyone else, when actually a managerial change is the right thing to do. The reality is he is going to be here for a while yet and its going to get a lot worse before it gets good again. The trouble with that is we are sinking fast and there is a long way to go with the rate we are falling.

Ultimately a new manager is needed but I guarantee we wont be getting one for at least 18 months.
 
Gambit said:
Giggs and I don't care that he has no experience.
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Would be happy with Giggs for the rest of the season. He has no coaching experience but the players would have infinitely more respect for him and everything he's won than Moyes and his League 2 winners medal.
 
Moyes is a huge part of the problem, but I feel that whoever comes in will have to be committed to making it work with Rooney and Persie in the team. Not convinced that will ever be the best way forward anymore.
 
This Manchester United job would tempt even Klopp, I'm not saying he would join but it would be tempting simply because of how much time they have afforded Moyes. Such is their patience should the manager achieve top four then they have the freedom and time to build their dream team, for Klopp at Dortmund the finances are limiting him however he has worked so hard to get them to where they are now he won't leave.

Other managers will come and do just fine but surely Moyes will go.
 
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