World Cup 2018 & 2022 bids

.. making reference the fact that our illegal immigrant population is about 36 times that of Qatar's migrant population ...

Exactly - your problem is 36 times bigger, I suggest you go and deal with it.

350 Filipino teachers were lured to the U.S. and forced by debt, high fees and confiscated passports into virtual slavery.

Stolen Birthright: The U.S. Conquest and Exploitation of the Mexican People

YouTube - California Story: Immigrant workers challenge exploitation, discrimination

Anyway this has feck all to do with the World Cup so lets get back on topic ...
 
BBC Sport - Football - World Cup vote: D-Day for England's 2018 bid hopes

Twenty-two Fifa executives hold the key to England's 2018 World Cup bid as the fate of its turbulent campaign will be decided on Thursday in Zurich.

England's main rival is likely to be the joint Spain/Portugal bid with Belgium/Netherlands and Russia also in the running.

Ex-England captain David Beckham, Prime Minister David Cameron and Prince William are fronting the England pitch.

"To win would be unbelievable," said current England captain Rio Ferdinand.

"I'm old enough to remember when we had the last championships here - Euro 96 - and that will live with me forever.

"It will enable us to invest in the communities and the facilities that would have been put in place for the future. We would reap the rewards in getting more young people into sports."

England's big moment comes at 1000 GMT, when its five-man 2018 bid team makes its presentation to Fifa's executive committee - which will also decide the hosts of the 2022 competition on Thursday - with Russia presenting its World Cup case an hour later.

As well as Beckham, Cameron and Prince William, England 2018 chief executive Andy Anson and Eddie Afekafe, who works with a Manchester City community football programme, will go before the Fifa decision makers.

Sebastian Coe, who was key to London's successful 2012 Olympic bid, is a 2018 board member and has been providing strategic advice.

"There may well be Fifa executive committee members who think they are absolutely fixed in their view, and this is where they are going to go, but a really strong presentation, with a really clear message and some emotional appeal can make a difference," said Coe.

While Cameron has been in Zurich for most of the week his Russian counterpart Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has not travelled to Zurich.

Putin has claimed that Fifa has been the victim of a smear campaign and should be left to make its decision "in peace and without any outside pressure".

Spain and Portugal's bid team was also hoping that Cristiano Ronaldo would make an appearance, but the injured Real Madrid forward is unable to attend.

Fifa is expected to announce the 2018 winner about 1500 GMT, with the decision for the 2022 World Cup - being contested by Australia, Japan, Qatar, South Korea and the United States - to follow.

Iberian bid's chief executive Miguel Angel Lopez believes England is neck-and-neck with Spain and Portugal.

"We are confident, we are not certain. We think we will win, we have eight votes for sure and it looks like it will be against England in the final round," said Lopez.

With those eight votes, Spain and Portugal are likely to win the first round of voting, but England hope to stay in the running and then pick up the votes when Netherlands/Belgium are eliminated to overtake the Iberian bid.

In the event of a tie, Fifa president Sepp Blatter will have the casting vote.

If England does secure the right to stage the 2018 World Cup it would represent a remarkable turnaround given the furore that has engulfed world governing body Fifa over corruption allegations following exposes by the Sunday Times newspaper and a BBC Panorama programme.

Earlier this year England's bid was also hit by the resignation of Lord Triesman, who stood down as chairman of the Football Association as well as the England 2018 World Cup bid, after what he called his "entrapment" by the Mail on Sunday newspaper.

And on the eve of Thursday's vote, there was an unwelcome reminder of the dark days of English football, with violence at the end of Birmingham's win over city rivals Aston Villa at St Andrew's in the Carling Cup with police in riot gear clearing fans off the pitch.

"It doesn't look good," said Birmingham manager Alex McLeish. "It takes us back to the dark ages. When you see flares get thrown it's not something we want to be associated with.

"I don't think it will affect the bid, I'm sure that's already decided."

However Beckham, speaking before the Midlands derby, believes England's bid has all the ingredients to be successful.

"There is not one negative about having a World Cup in our country," said the former England skipper.

"Nowhere in the world has facilities like we do. I'm not just talking about stadiums but travel, hotels; all over the country we are set up for a big competition, so that's why we're ready."
 
Exactly - your problem is 36 times bigger, I suggest you go and deal with it.

:lol: Are you wumming or just thick? Proportionally, our problem (since you can only even pretend to have a coherent argument by pretending that one Mexican in Imperial Valley picking tomatoes for a low wage=one Bangladeshi with his passport seized, his movements restricted and contact with his home and family severed) is about one-sixths the size.


And they are now suing the people who did that to them with the aid of an American NGO. Does a migrant worker in Qatar get to sue an employer who abuses him?


:lol: You didn't even read that, did you? It's a historical piece whose conclusion is that the current Latino population is a growing political force in American society.


And you certainly didn't watch that. Bloody hell, it's right there in the link title, too. A private entity was abusing migrant workers, and private groups, with the aid of law enforcement and two Federal departments, are investigating (and suing) the company that did that.

Protip: When you do the argument by Google thing, it helps to make sure that what you're linking actually supports your argument. :rolleyes:

Anyway this has feck all to do with the World Cup so lets get back on topic ...

Right. Qatari corporations, with full complicity from the Qatari government import and abuse migrant labor. Qatar's World Cup bid implicitly depends upon stepping up this process in order to build the facilities the tiny country will need to host the World Cup, so they shouldn't get it.
 
Rood, I can't speak for Qatar, but I've known friends who have been there at Saudi Arabia and Dubai and had to endure nightmares just because they were in the unskilled daily wages category.

I think you are just wumming if you are drawing a parallel to the situation in US. I'm an immigrant living in NJ by the way. For the record, I hope Aussies get it, they remain the only continent not to host the WC.
 
:lol: Are you wumming or just thick?

Of course Im fecking WUMing you spastic - I couldnt give a shit about bloody migrant workers. feck off to the CE Forum if it interests you because Im just interested in the World Cup here.
Im just bored shitless by high and mighty prats like you. Go and clean up your own shit and then come back to me.
 
The funniest thing is that you thought it was a serious reply after I spent 2 minutes googling and posting random shit - dickhead :lol:

Anyway I'll be back at 10am to see our bid presentation - hopefully better than the shower of shit that USA put on today :D
 
I think the funniest is your sad retreat into the "I was just wumming" opening I left for you, while still repeating your "clean up your own shit" line, but opinions will differ. :rolleyes:
 
US seemed to have edged ahead for 2022 after Australia lost the Oceania vote due to them appealing the ban but that there is a rumor (which may be of the tin foil hat variety) to the effect that Qatar will vote for Japan in the first round and may take one or two other votes with them, in order to eliminate the US in the first round since they will only grow in strength as no hopers like Japan are eliminated. If the US are eliminated then it will probably come down to a last two of Qatar and Australia. In that event who knows who would win?
 
US seemed to have edged ahead for 2022 after Australia lost the Oceania vote due to them appealing the ban but that there is a rumor (which may be of the tin foil hat variety) to the effect that Qatar will vote for Japan in the first round and may take one or two other votes with them, in order to eliminate the US in the first round since they will only grow in strength as no hopers like Japan are eliminated. If the US are eliminated then it will probably come down to a last two of Qatar and Australia. In that event who knows who would win?

If the US really want the WC, they should strike a deal with China, less US pressure on the appreciation of RMB in exchange for China giving a clear indication of their interest in hosting 2026.
 
China's interest doesn't garner any votes in the next 12 hours, though. Certainly not for the US. If the US gets 2022, 2026 basically becomes a dead cert for Asia. China on the fence means that once they're eliminated, the Japanese and Korean votes probably go the US' way, whereas China saying flat out "We want it in 2026" pushes them back onto the fence.
 
China's interest doesn't garner any votes in the next 12 hours, though. Certainly not for the US. If the US gets 2022, 2026 basically becomes a dead cert for Asia. China on the fence means that once they're eliminated, the Japanese and Korean votes probably go the US' way, whereas China saying flat out "We want it in 2026" pushes them back onto the fence.

Well, I was saying they should have done it months ago.

Anyway, Fifa can change their policy overnight anyway, they had that rotation thing going for a few years and changed it because Uefa got upset.
 
FIFA.com - Bidders for the 2018/2022 FIFA World Cup?

You can watch the presentations(in full) that were done yesterday too.


Thanks a lot buddy. That same link has a live stream right now.

Schedule (GMT) 8am Presentation by the Netherlands and Belgium 9am Spain-Portugal 10am England 11am Russia Noon Fifa members break for lunch 1pm Fifa members transported to the Messe centre to begin their vote 1.30pm Voting begins 2.30pm-3pm Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, announces the hosts of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
 
henrywinter

Strong-ish finish by #sportugal, two boys entertained by images of great players. Ends with boys asleep. Not alone

That tweet reads a little creepy...
 
Morning all!

missed the Iberian presentation but they were slagging it off on the radio saying it was particularly boring - if the rumours are to be believed, it is now between us and Spain.
 
I'm British Mockney, what do you think I mean?

Well I assumed that..But since you live in Spain I thought you might be quite up for having it on your doorstep.

I'd wouldn't mind a Spain/Portugal one tbh...I'd snap it up over Russia obviously.
 
I can see where England's bid is going to fall down even now

"and that wraps up why we think we can host an absolutely top class world cup...any questions?"
"Yeah, er, supposing that any kind of weather should happen during the tournament. How will your travel infrastructure be affected by this"
"Well, er, providing that this weather you speak of isn't too severe...Say a few clouds or something, we should be able to get away with just postponing the entire tournament by a few days and hoping it clears up. Of course, er, it might not make too much difference since most of the time at least half of our travel network are on strike anyway..ahhahahaha...aha...hah"