Yaya toure... prick... (drink driving)

Rado_N said:
What sentences do those amoral poor people get for buying cheap clothes? They're the real criminals here.
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Worst of the worst. They have to sit and watch old United Moyes matches over and over again.
 
ATXRedDevil said:
For stupid friends I sure do have a lot with MDs, JDs, MBAs and PhDs.

Also, not all my friends know each other so I don't know why you're erroneously assuming that all have driven dunk after my friend went to jail. Or do you only socialize with one group of people?

Look. If you get off your high horse this isn't that hard. Drunk driving is wrong. It's bad and can have awful consequences. But all the moral high ground feckers in here are acting as if every drunk driver ever was smashed, coulda barely walk and said feck it i'm getting my car home. People misjudge or just simply make bad decisions. Sure, some are selfish pricks that don't care about others, but not every one that makes that wrong call is a bad person.

The vast majority of adults who drink socially have made the bad call to drive drunk at least once.
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There are millions of people who have every right to sit on their high horse when it comes to this subject, because most of us are not moronic enough to drive whilst drunk. If you, your friends, or anyone anywhere reading this has driven a car whilst over the limit, then believe me when I say I think you're a complete and utter feckwit of the highest order for wilfully committing an offence that puts other road users and pedestrians at risk. There have been entire families destroyed by idiots thinking they can get away with driving home after a few drinks, because apparently they are above the law, or their senses are superhuman and being drunk doesn't affect them. No, sorry, there's no excuse or justification for ever doing it, and if you ever get caught I hope for two things: firstly that you avoid hurting anyone, and secondly that you're caught and banned from driving so there's one less moron on the roads.
 
SirAF said:
I just read it is 0.8%! In Norway that would mean a fine of 1,5 months wage, suspended from driving for a year and likely a short jail sentence.
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It would be simpler for everyone if the permitted level was 0, then people wouldn't feel the need to take a chance with "just one drink".
 
Penna said:
It would be simpler for everyone if the permitted level was 0, then people wouldn't feel the need to take a chance with "just one drink".
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Although you can't then drive for a hell of a long time after drinking. We have a 0 limit for Learners and P platers (2.5 years after passing test) and it can easily take 18 hours to get back to 0. If you applied this to all drivers most people would flout the law.

The UK should make a start by reducing the limit to 0.05 from 0.08 which is the limit in many countries.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
There are millions of people who have every right to sit on their high horse when it comes to this subject, because most of us are not moronic enough to drive whilst drunk. If you, your friends, or anyone anywhere reading this has driven a car whilst over the limit, then believe me when I say I think you're a complete and utter feckwit of the highest order for wilfully committing an offence that puts other road users and pedestrians at risk. There have been entire families destroyed by idiots thinking they can get away with driving home after a few drinks, because apparently they are above the law, or their senses are superhuman and being drunk doesn't affect them. No, sorry, there's no excuse or justification for ever doing it, and if you ever get caught I hope for two things: firstly that you avoid hurting anyone, and secondly that you're caught and banned from driving so there's one less moron on the roads.
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I agree that drinking and then getting into a car straight afterwards is just stupid. The nearest I have come to that is having a lunchtime pint with a meal and then driving home 4 hours later. I have done this about 4 times in 20 years as I would normally have a coke instead.

The grey area for me is the morning after driver. 4 or 5 pints in the evening and you could be over the limit the next morning, depending on your gender, size and a few other variables. I can almost forgive the person who is caught the morning after if they had a reasonable drink the night before and a reasonable gap before driving (8-10 hours).
 
Wibble said:
Although you can't then drive for a hell of a long time after drinking. We have a 0 limit for Learners and P platers (2.5 years after passing test) and it can easily take 18 hours to get back to 0. If you applied this to all drivers most people would flout the law.

The UK should make a start by reducing the limit to 0.05 from 0.08 which is the limit in many countries.
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I believe that's already the limit in Scotland, where they've been a little more proactive.
 
So we have a few drink driving apologists?

fecking pathetic

Any who has driven whilst drunk, especially in this day and age is utter selfish prick. No exceptions
 
Penna said:
It would be simpler for everyone if the permitted level was 0, then people wouldn't feel the need to take a chance with "just one drink".
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There is a non-zero limit because it is recognized that many people can have a drink and not mow down a herd of orphans on their way home.
 
adexkola said:
There is a non-zero limit because it is recognized that many people can have a drink and not mow down a herd of orphans on their way home.
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But I think penna is right it would remove any grey area


Just don't touch a drop when you are going to drive. Then there are no excuses, this person can handle X amount while this person can't etc...

I would consider myself a pretty heavy drinker and I have to drive a lot. But I somehow manage to never do the two at the same time

Go me
 
Life in Prison? Are people still going to risk it?

Drivers who cause death by dangerous or careless driving could get life in prison under new government proposals.

Ministers want to bring the offence, which has a maximum sentence of 14 years, in line with manslaughter.

Motorists who cause death by speeding, street racing or while on a mobile phone are among those who could face longer sentences.

Road safety charity Brake welcomed the plans, but is worried the lesser charge of "careless" driving could remain.

Offenders convicted while under the influence of drink or drugs could also be given life sentences.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38199720
 
hp88 said:
Life in Prison? Are people still going to risk it?



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38199720
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Perfectly reasonable in my opinion. You make that choice when you get behind the wheel. I know a chap who lost two children and his child's friend in a collision with a drunk driver and the drunk driver died instantly at the wheel.

He shares his story every Christmas to highlight the dangers and it is absolutely heartbreaking.

No excuses whatsoever.
 
adexkola said:
Yes and I do not deny there are different levels of selfishness here.
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Of course there's usually a different level of selfishness.
Driving tired is very hard to avoid, within reason. You can't just pull over and sleep on the side of the road if you're on your way to work. There are very few reasons as to why you couldn't forego those 3 pints though

ATXRedDevil said:
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I understand where you're coming from. I used to drive drunk when I'd just passed and for all intents and purposes I was a nice enough person, not really a prick. Came from the rural part of Swansea and it was fairly standard around here, I even knew a copper who did it regularly. After doing it a fair few times, a girl the same age as I was who I worked with at the supermarket was killed by a drink driver. Since then it's burned me with shame. I was 18 then so while still totally wrong, I can blame it on me being thoughtless, but never even considered it again.

If someone does it as a very out of habit occurrence, then he's acting like a prick when he does it.
If it's a regular habit, then the person is definitely a prick.
 
I think the beautiful Helen Mirren sums up drink drivers in the new tv advert. Only a newbie so I can't post it though, sad times!
 


But yeah, the poor drink drivers being called pricks are the real victims.
 
Celestiale said:
There is also no excuse buying cheap clothes...threatens lifes of Bangladeshi kids...
There is also no excuse eating food from Africa...leads to people starving over there...
Same goes for a lot of metals, minerals, and last but not least oil.
Could go on with this list for ages.
(Almost) every human in the so called first world hurts and kills people from the third world (indirectly).
This moral highhorsing and selective moral in our countries is quite ridiculous. Most people only see what's in front of their eyes. But i guess this goes quite OT. I for one say drink driving is better then regularly buying cheap clothes, from a moral standpoint.
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Daft false equivalency. Yes, people from the first world indirectly harm people elsewhere all the time with lots of their actions. But due to the insidious and ubiquitous nature of these globalised chains of cause and effect, it's very, very hard to avoid doing so a lot of the time. And arguably impossible to avoid doing so completely.

It's very easy not to drink and drive. I may only be 24 but I've never done it, and never got close, and I don't see it happening in the future either. There are just so many ways not to do it. Public transport. Cabs. Pick a designated driver. Walk to your local. Spend five minutes thinking about it before going out. Hell, I've never used Uber but I'm guessing this is 90% of the reason it's taken off.

Or if you know there's literally no way for you to go out without driving yourself home afterwards, then just don't drink. Take the hit and get a disappointing lime and soda. Your liver will thank you.
 
Penna said:
I've never understood why rich people take a chance with drink-driving. He could pay for a driver for the night. Mind you, if he's found guilty he'll probably have to pay for a full-time driver.
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I think if Yaya has proved one thing to us all over his career more than anything, its that he is thick as fecking pigshit.
 
Moonred said:
A jug of diet coke accompanied by a plate of soup and a bowl of pizza.
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These hipster cafes are getting out of control.
 
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