Your yearly expectations under Ole?

Regular top 4 and occasional cup wins.

Havent seen enough to raise expectations for PL and CL challenges.

A full season would give a better measure of what he is capable of.
 
First and foremost, I want us to be playing good, exciting football with players who clearly love playing for the club.

Then I'd like to see us still in the title discussion this time next year. If we ultimately fall short to a better, more established side I won't be too upset.

2020-21 I'd like to see a real push for the title. If we don't win a league by then, it better be because we've been beaten to it by a class outfit. At that stage it would be a decade without a title and I'd be expecting Ed Woodward as Chief Executive to lose his job for such long term failure.
 
PL next season we should be aiming for at least 75 points. That most likely places you within the top 4.

Expecting to be within 10 points of teams that hit 100 points last year, and will most likely clear 90 this year, is more unrealistic. I would rather arrive at the end of next season with a top 4 finish (or a near top 4 finish above 75 points) and a distinct attacking playing style, both in and out of possession. That will provide the foundation to push for a title challenge in Ole's 2nd full season.
 
The only expectations I have are to provide decent ambitious football in accordance to our market spending and finish at least in a 'par' position in the table (for most of the post-Fergie period I think this should have been 2nd or 3rd - so that's the amount of failure we've had previously). If we're not spending the same as City or whoever, it's not fair to expect PL titles as a given but we should be in the mix during the season. At the end of the day, City (and Liverpool this year have joined them) have set the bar as a team that tends to win 80%+ of their matches. We're no where near that in recent years.

Never have any expectations with cups (including CL) - it's a complete fecking lottery.
 
This season top 4.
Every season after, challenging for the league, we’re Man Utd and the biggest club in the world.

I don’t ever want to go into a season like this one where we effectivey said, ‘city, pool, count us out of this one because we’ve had a crap pre-season and not signed players in the obvious holes in our squad’
 
Because Barca and Madrid were already stable top 4 teams. We aren't, we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and likely 4-6th since Fergie retired. Let's take things step by step.

Yeah and nobody is expecting miracles, but can he still not be a Pep or Zidane? Or does he need to go and make a winning side continue winning first?

We all need to stop whining, well not me and many others, but in general, we all need to stop whining for managers who were given a chance elsewhere and get behind our own guy.

Why can't we do it? Why? Tell me?

Pep or Zidane would have done feck all with Cardiff too. So don't give me that shite.

Tell me.
 
If we dont spend big this summer then it is 100% proof the glazers arent willing to spend what it takes to get this club back at the top where we belong. We spent nothing last summer so no more excuses or anywhere to hide. Spend big or feck off.
 
I honestly don't have any specific league performance requirements for Ole.

Of course we need to be in and around the best teams in the league and we need to become a force in Europe again.

However, much, much much more than that. I want to see a team that plays attractive football and improves year on year.
 
He has to get the players he needs, he wants to play high tempo high press lots of running, a squad of athletes with class he wants, expect a pre season of running running running, he will need this group to be fit fit fit.
 
Title challenge every season. I expect the board should give him a war chest that is similiar with the likes of Manchester City and Chelsea, so there is no excuse if we don’t finish in the top four.

Moreover, have us playing attractive football and adopt a good philosophy. Earlier on when he was first appointed, our football was good, but we have been on a decline for awhile and I hope to see a continuance of that earlier football.
 
Even with Ole being somewhat inexperienced, I'd expect to see us finish in the top four and be in the draw for the last 16 of every cup competition. From there, it's relative to who you draw as to whether you should be expected to progress or not IMO. As of right now it's still be about learning, figuring out what kind of players we need to progress us at the right pace etc. I'd imagine Ole has shared his vision with the board and they like it, which is why he has the job.

This is where I am on it. I figure he will be mostly in the top four, if not this season (still highly likely, I think), then next year on. He'll be challenging for one or both of the domestic cups each year, probably with a win at least every other year. In three or four years, he'll be pushing the semis of the CL and in the mix for the PL title.

As for learning, every coach is learning. If you're not constantly learning, you get sacked mid-year because all the other coaches are learning themselves ahead of you.
 
If the goal next season is to 'consolidate top 4' we shouldn't be disappointed if the likes of Pogba and De Gea look to leave. You can't expect players to waste their primes on the top 4 trophy.

The biggest gulf between the likes of Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester United is honestly the fans. Their fans believe they support a huge club and expect big things. The club then has to deliver.
Our fans believe they support some plucky under-dog, and are satisfied with their bare minimum. Which is why fan ownership would be destructive for this club.


I agree with this. Looking at people's expectations, they just want top 4 and scoffing ensues when we think that's all Woodward wants. Well some of the fans want it too.

I want a title challenge next season.
 
If we play the way we've played so far this year, then we will be in the top 3 mix. I see a lot of potential in the squad and with the right signings we can go very far. It's another topic how quick it will happen, but I am positive that next year if not title challenge we will be no lower than 3rd.
I hope it won't take too much time for new signings to bed in. We definitely need reinforcements on the right wing and center back.
 
It’s a failure if he doesn’t win the league within 3 years, and if he doesn’t challenge next year.
 
Pogba wount stick around for 3 years to maybe challenge for the league.

We need a big summer and then to challenge for the league.
 
Pogba wount stick around for 3 years to maybe challenge for the league.

We need a big summer and then to challenge for the league.
He and De Gea aren’t sticking around regardless. I’d like to see the club have the self awareness to realize this and leverage the two of them into something that pushes the team forward.
 
What I want to see first and foremost is Ole arresting our poor recruitment policy as well as the handling of contracts. Herrera is key player for us and should not leave, even if we have to pay a little bit more [it'd cost a lot more for an immediate replacement who may not hit the ground running nor have his passion]. I think he'll do well in this regard because he'll understand the importance of individual players - plus most of the decisions he's taken with lineups etc have been on point, keeping it simple and logical rather than over-complicating things.

I saw something on Sky Sports about Ole wanting to get his signings in before pre-season, which shows he understands the importance of team coherence. Tired of getting in big names who don't fit the team and end up being big disappointments. My only concern at this point would be whether he is an easy get out card for the board to not fully back him, seeing as he wouldn't have been as demanding as other more experienced managers when signing on the dotted line. However at the same time, the way Ole speaks, it fills me confidence that he knows what Man Utd is all about and would defo have the backing of Fergie et al which will count for a lot obvs.

If everything goes well in recruitment, I've no doubt we will automatically produce significantly better football. The players will have become accustomed to his high energy style after a full pre-season and an improved squad, he and the coaching staff have already showed a fair level of tactical astuteness to get us through the big games. I expect top four comfortably, a domestic cup and at least a QF in the CL depending on the draw [could be less could be more].

Second year should be onward improvements.

The Endz.
 
Listening to Ole there's no way I think he's settling for top four. I get the impression he feels embarrassed - and rightly so - about top four finishes.

Top one is where I think he's aiming. And expecting.
 
It all depend on next transfer window. The idea of we need to improve step by step just sound silly for me. Pool and even City wont stay put with their squad this season. They will likely to improve also. We already couple steps behind them and we dont catch up fast we will likely left behind again. This squad need big signings not some young prospect again.
If Lingard still the main RW next season forget top 4, even top 6 would be debatable.
Honestly, Pogba and DDG will leave after next season if we dont show our intend to be the best in the league again.
 
If he gets the necessary reinforcements & upgrades, I expect to be in the title hunt right away. Not necessarily in the race till the end of the season, but in the discussion. We have enough to beat most teams, and if we get back to where most teams fear us, we can be contenders. SAF didn't have to have the best individual parts to have the best team, and Ole knows that. Get enough complimentary players, mix & match as necessary, & get everyone to believe. Not sure when we will win the league again, but I figure Ole will get one before the 3 yrs are up. Figure if City win it this year, they will be the main obstacle, as Liverpool & the Wolfman may have shot their load this year and will be even more fragile psychologically, while Poch could be a dead man walking as Levy may not be able to fund improvements. Chelsea is Chelsea, but might be seriously hobbled by the transfer ban, especially if the don't get into the CL next season.

Of course, a lot depends on the rest of this season plus transfers. If Ole can secure CL for next season, his job gets so much easier.
 
This season - Finish in the top four.
Next season - Win the league.
Season after - Win the double.
Season after the season after - Win the treble.
 
As long as we don’t play 3 defensive midfielders against bottom half teams. I’m good.
 
Top 4 would be great this year as a season without CL is a bit grim. Would have no grievance against ole should it not happen though, to expect it now given where we were is selfish but it's what we should aim for until May.

Next season I want to see us challenging for the title. Plenty of teams have done it with a new manager. A league title within 3 years would be fantastic

Off the pitch a clear and structured management of the squad is essential. Older players need to be phased out correctly with replacements anticipated and top players targeted and potential top players identified
 
Now that Ole is confirmed manager on a 3 year contract, what are your expectations for him over the length of his contract (and beyond)?

This season: Maintain a positive style of play, reach the top 4 (though I wouldn't blame Ole if we narrowly miss out, unless our performances took a massive dip) and produce a spirited display against Barcelona in the CL. Start looking at transfer targets and a DoF (if that's even happening), personnel that will suit the philosophy that Ole will want to bring to United.

This summer: Get the signings! Improve the squad! Make sure we don't feck it up! Get a DoF! Bring new players in early and bed them in for pre-season, along with our academy prospects.

Year 1: Comfortable top 4 position, get quite close to the title challengers but I am not expecting a strong title push. Compete in the domestic cups and try and win one. Assuming we qualify for the CL, get to the QF (depending on the draw). If not, compete in the EL but do not make it a priority unless it's necessary. Above all else, maintain a quality standard of performance that can bring us to future success by creating a good foundation for quality players to flourish in.

Year 2: A strong title challenge after a hopefully positive transfer window. Depending on the CL draw, get to the QF and really start to prove ourselves at the top level again by producing good performances against top European teams. Win a domestic cup.

Year 3: A stronger title challenge. Level of competition in the PL is very high so winning the title isn't expected just as long as we truly fight for it. Further cement ourselves as a top European team by hopefully reaching a CL SF. Win a domestic cup.

Long term: Bring United back to one of the best in the world, challenging on all fronts and winning the biggest trophies.

Expectations for cups are tough since there is an element of luck in draws, but reaching finals and winning trophies needs to be something to maintain in the next few years. Even cups as small as the League Cup, it's important to instil that winning mentality.

There should be no messing around. We need to keep playing positive football. For obvious reasons, playing positive attacking football is going to lead to success if backed up financially well. Our transfer windows absolutely need to work out if we are to become a top team again. Nail our transfer business then I believe we can reach these expectations.

Of course it could all backfire and he ends up getting sacked after a year after dismal results. But with any manager we sign we should be expecting results that a club of our standard should be achieving. Otherwise, what's the point?

Good post. For me:

This season: It has been bonus time for me since the Mou was given his marching orders. Pragmatism and squad assessment are the priority.

This summer: I don't care about the age of the players we sign. It is about attitude, hunger, respect and talent. No merc signings. It should be about putting down the foundations whilst increasing our competitiveness.

Year 1: There will be ups and downs and false dawns, but it is about being competitive for the title regardless of the position in the top 5. A point gap over 10 to the top position will be criticised and rightfully scrutinised. Lay out the blueprint to be the dominant team in 95% of our matches rather than the dominated team. Pragmatism in big/crucial games notably in tournaments and knockout games won't be criticised.

Year 2: Assuming we've done the minimum of qualifying for an European competition and having set-up a core of talented players we can count on for consistency and that believe in the cause, weed-out the weak willed (need to be ruthless here) and pepper the team with undeniable talent that of course wants to be here and win the title. A serious challenge for the title, in it till the end at least.

Year 3: It's a long way from now, a lot can go wrong. But assuming we fell just short of top spot again in the league, say 2/3 points off. We have to go again, this time go for broke because it could well be the end of a cycle for certain players, and we need to at this point to start being a decent force in Europe rather than a joke. So get past the group stage with relative ease and at least past the first knock-out stage, there-on it will depend on the draw and how well we have worked the previous two years.

I have never been the type that believed that you can spend xxx million in two transfer windows and suddenly be a force to reckon with (given this is not la Ligue Unh!). If it were that easy, I'd sign up to be a manager at a top club now.
My personal belief, particularly after seeing the time it took clubs like Chelsea, City, PSG (in Europe) to get going after heavy investment, is that there is a level of cohesion that has to be developed organically, that comes from talent players with the right attitude developing an understanding, a sense of cohesion playing together over time in an environment setup to foster their abilities and get the best out of them.
 
In the next 3 years -
Win something every year. PL at least once. CL quarters every year; finalists at least once.
 
Right now I would probably be happy if we can stop some titles from City and win something. With City and Pep around it will be hard to win it all, but it should be our aim.
 
My immediate expectation is he already knows who should be moved on and where to strengthen. I also expect a better season next, not to be confused with a demand for a title. A year from now we'll obviously know a lot more where we stand.
 
Top four is an absolute must, together with a strong title challenge.
 
I'd love to see us integrate more youth (esp. home grown) into our team while taking advantage of the peaks of players like Pogba, Herrera and De Gea.

Playing fast, exciting football with Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Pogba and maybe even Sancho linking up top.

After the last five seasons, during which we've won the FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League playing the most dire football imaginable, I want to see us playing attractive football and building a squad that can stay together for a number of years mounting sustained challenges for the League and Champions League (we have the skeleton with De Gea, Dalot, Lindelof, Pogba, Martial, Rashford and maybe Greenwood depending on how he's integrated).

Get rid of the scatter gun approach to transfers. I'm really positive on that front, even if we don't spend big in the market Olé will build for the future and not be brain dead with Schweinsteiger/Sanchez signings. He really seems to want to follow the Ferguson 'family' model - which would be a massive improvement over whatever the hell Moyes did, van Gaal's roboticism and Mourinho's self-centred short termism.
 
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If you trust ole, and back him 100 percent a dof or no dof wont change how we puchase players.

Ed is good enough to get the players ole identify. Getting a player in was never a problem for him, identifying who is down to the manager.

The dof would only have to listen to ole in player acquisition, anything less than that is counterproductive. There's no point having a united legend as manager only to have a continental dof directing him in other direction.
 
I feel Poch would have been a much better candidate for the position of taking our club forward. Ole has achieved much in 3 or so months but Poch has overachieved for 3 seasons with a spurs side with extremely limited resources.

I don't see what Solskjaer has implemented in our football to indicate him giving us long term success, I think the perception of why he's done so well is because of how bad we had fallen as a club under Jose's reign. We haven't played good attacking football since the cardiff result, we look more of a threat out of possession and on the counter attack.

Pep and Klopp aside the talented players, have a clear philosophy and you can see it exemplified in how their respective teams play, you can see the emphasis on how they have been coached, how the players are being nurtured in their positions, just look at what's happened with Sterling's development.

I don't see this with us, I don't see where we are being coached in terms of movement off the ball, what we are drilling our wide players to do in attacking positions, how we move the ball through the midfield without having to constantly rely on Pogba, why our fullbacks are seldom overlapping the play. The only justification I can give Ole for these clear issues is if we simply don't have the players to utilise a more imposing system and approach so time will tell.

But nevertheless irrespective I'm behind Ole, pressure is on now however we need massive improvement.

Game for game ole shits on poch. Career wise jose shits on poch. The only tangible thing poch has over anyone is his cheeky cheek
 
Anyone getting dejavu? We did all these type of articles under LVG n Jose. Look what happened.

My only expectation is for him to build a young exciting attacking team that our fans want to go and watch. That will do for me as everything else will take care of itself.
 
Comfortable top 4. There or there abouts at the top for a while. Top 3 finish ideally.
After that it should be challenging for the league.
After 2-3 seasons I want a team that looks like it's going to be strong in the CL. I know we've had a nice run and that's always possible, but I want to be fully confident that we can go toe to toe with anyone and not just hope it's our day.
 
Anyone getting dejavu? We did all these type of articles under LVG n Jose. Look what happened.

My only expectation is for him to build a young exciting attacking team that our fans want to go and watch. That will do for me as everything else will take care of itself.

That is because despite what the caf think, the manager is one of least important factors in success. The game has evolved past a jack of all trades at the helm and uses specialisation to build a better team. Some were surprised when Ole said that the players are whats the most important during the game, it's something top managers have said for a long time now (Guardiola, Aleggri, Mourinho and Ancelotti have all said as such).
 
Some are mentioning a title challenge next year. We are miles off City at the moment.

We need more fluid and fast/direct play. Can't win the title if we only can play sit-back / normal football. 51% possession at home against Watford is just really far off from a title challenge.

I expect us to at least play an entertaining brand of football under Ole. He's sort of hired to please us fans and play attacking football, so we need to buy both creative and individualistic players to fit that style. Eriksen or a similar type (that fits Pogba) to make the team play faster would be nice. And a Sancho type.

Feck defence for now, and let's play the United attacking way. Show us the money Glazers!