He's won CL in bboth his seasons there, a league in his first full season. His side is not as good as what Pep's Barca side was and even they couldn't win back to back CLs
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Bit like Pep then?
I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job. But outside of this extreme bubble of inheriting the best squad in world football, at the peak of its powers, he's totally unproven. Would you hire him to build a winning side in a competitive league? That's the litmus test for me.
Pretty much.
No other good European sides right now tbh. And the Spanish league is a 2 horse race. His squad is much better than Barca's, which has no depth.
Not saying he's done a bad job, but he had a heavily stacked deck.
And he's done it without any drama, or look like a a fecking hipster.
Amazing man-management. Most notably Ronaldo, but also Isco, the introduction of Asensio and Vazquez, Casemiro keeping his place...
I didn't expect him to be that good to be honest. Looks like a top manager in the making
I didn't expect him to be that good to be honest. Looks like a top manager in the making
He's inherited so many great players at the absolute peak of their powers. Ronaldo, Bale, Marcelo, Ramos, Kroos, Modric. All world-class players. And the rest of his squad is top notch too.
It's a great achievement winning back to back UCL's, but I'm just not sure how much of it can be attributed to Zidane. He still has everything to prove as manager in my opinion.
It's a great achievement winning back to back UCL's, but I'm just not sure how much of it can be attributed to Zidane. He still has everything to prove as manager in my opinion.
That saltiness. And you know this how?
Hats off to Zidane. It's an incredible achievement. No real managerial experience and he goes on to win it twice in a row.
Legendary player, a legendary manager. Respect.
He's got the best and most balanced squad in World football. All the players compliment each other. Although you have to give him credit for being able to drop the galatico rubbish they had going and actually put a proper team together. He hasn't done any miracles, but he's got the squad playing as a team which is all Madrid needed tbf.
Very good start to his managerial career.
Very good start to his managerial career.
Real Madrid's version of Guradiola.
Happy for him. He's a great manager and anyone still denying this needs to rethink his ideas and accept the fact.
Happy for him. He's a great manager and anyone still denying this needs to rethink his ideas and accept the fact.
FCBarca on suicide watch, some of the shit people come up with.He deserves credit for managing such big egos in the squad, 1st League title in 7 years. Back to back CL is an amazing achievement.
You need world class players at peak of their powers to win CL, no different to the quality of players Pep inherited. You still have to manage them and get them to perform at their maximum level.
Well, Rafa and Ancelotti (in his final season) failed to win anything with more or less the same squad. It has to be said.
Zidane has proven , role of managers are not that important like some think. Credit to zidane but just don't complicate football and when you have a squad like real madrid , you are bound to win.
Still gotta give him credit for keeping everyone focused and recognizing the importance of Casemiro.
Yep. Confirmed now. Totally different style though.
Really you look like a football expert, explain then what is Pep or Zidane training methodology, tactical periodization or what?
I might get plastered for saying this - but I feel that if one day we had to hire an ex United player as a manager; it may not be too bad.
Madrid kept this 'galactico' thing going on season after season & Zidane comes in and clearly knows exactly what the club is about. They are much more of a team now and built around an understanding, the same way Pep showed up at Barca after dismantling Rijkaards superstars.
Madrid kept this 'galactico' thing going on season after season & Zidane comes in and clearly knows exactly what the club is about. They are much more of a team now and built around an understanding, the same way Pep showed up at Barca after dismantling Rijkaards superstars.
Couldn't beat Dortmund in the CL though. 
Not salty, just my personal assessment on the situation. Until he does it, it's open to debate isn't it?
Being the first manager in 27 years to win back to back European Cups/Champions league trophies and wrestling the Spanish League away from what some were hailing as the greatest side to have played football passes any and all litmus tests mate.
I see what you mean but the counter argument to that is that managers who build a successful team may not have been able to come in to a team full of world class players and win the way Zidane has.
Doing some great things at Madrid but way to earlier to judge him as a manager. He is (Like Pep at Barca & Bayren)essentially playing real life FIFA.
I'm not denying he's clearly done something right when he's won back to back UCL's and the league. It's a fantastic achievement. But the fact remains that he did not build (the majority) of this squad. When/if he manages to replace the key players of this squad and still be successful or build his own successful team elsewhere I'll happily agree that he's proven himself to be a great manager.
Di Matteo won the UCL with a much, much inferior squad. Does that make him a great manager? Obviously not.
Come on, I give zero fecks tbh. I'm boiling it down to a simple opinion. He could be doing ring a ring a rosie in training for all I care; otherwise known as the Moyes training principle.
I'm far from an expert and don't care to be. You're free to disagree. Not interested in getting into a pseudo intellectual debate on training principles. And if that invalidates my opinion in your, or anyone else's, eyes - so be it.
That's how it should be. But so far, no indication whatsoever for your claim that he'd be shite when tasking to build a team.
Seriously, I only want to hear a rational explanation, if they are so lucky, tell me why Benitez failed, or Tata Martino at Barcelona, I am having a argument not refuting your opinion mate.
Amazing achievement by Zinedine Zidane! Congrats!
Because football isn't a 2+2=4 kind of sport. So these points are... pointless.. It's like saying that because SAF failed to win more than 2 UCL's he must therefore not have been a great manager.
Strangely, it's the same squad everyone expected him to fail with.
Better than Pep.
Great player, great manager.
Yes good point. But it's still a bit in the grey area for me how good of a manager Zizou is. Your point doesn't make mine completely invalid IMO.Strangely, it's the same squad everyone expected him to fail with.
The big 2 in Spain have won 6 of the last 9 CL finals under 4 different managers. It's very hard to judge their coaches until they try somewhere with less advantages stacked in their favour, let alone to try to compare them with the old style British manager.
By pointless you mean what?
I am not saying Zidane is better than Benitez, but I can say he certainly has done a better job with Real, the same for Pep, what is pointless is people posting in forums that never coached nobody in life dismissing other coaches performances based on personal opinions.
Zidane is the only manager to win the CL every seasons he's managed in it. 100%. If I was opta Joe I'd say one word at the end of my sentence. Consistent.
No indication he wouldn't be.
As someone else said, Barca or Real has won 6 of the last 9 CLs under 4 different managers.