Something very Pepesqué about him.
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Not basing it off just tonight's game, but when Mourinho does leave which I hope it isn't for a long time, I hope we get Zidane to replace him.
and how exactly are we going to be building a squad of Madrid's quality?
Having a great squad means feck all if you don't use it properly. FSW didn't manage to get the best out of this squad.
I must admit i still think Zidane have to prove more himself as a coach but tonight he outplayed Simeone tactically. This is the second time he is doing it (0:3 win at Calderon also).
Zizou will probably want to coach Juve after his spell at Real is over and then of course the national team of France. Can't see him coaching in England tbh
How did he outplay him tactically?
Didn't Perez stop Rafa from playing Casemiro as a DM. That fans were complaining about it or something
and that's the reason that fraud was coaching in the championship this season. If we put together a squad this good, we'll be winning games at the of the CL too with a half competent coach.
No it was just too defensive and he was playing Danilo as right back ahead of Carvajal. Not forgetting that he was falling out with players due to his tactics.
You mean like Tata did at Barcelona. You make it sound so easy. Why don't you ask Senor Perez to hire you?
Don't have his digits sadly. Well, i did say a half competent coach. FSW and Tata are the two fraudsters who coached Barca and Madrid in recent years and managed to accomplish nothing.
He's going to become the first manager to win back to back Champions League titles isn't he?
Real fans, is he really that good? Or is Real Madrid that good? Or is he making them that good?
I like him as a manager. Mixture of pragmatism and style.. I like the way his sides play the game.
Not really, no. Yesterday, Madrid did very well, also from a tactical point of view. Pep never won the CL with Bayern despite having an amazing squad
His win percentage is more than 75%, that's amazing record.
I'm surprised by his record, thought he won't be that good but he has proved me completely wrong.
I'm surprised by his record, thought he won't be that good but he has proved me completely wrong.
No dud manager wins the Champions league, let alone has a great chance at becoming the first win back to back Champions Leagues. I'm just saying what others say about successful Barcelona managers when they succeed while working with great players, something Zidane has the fortune of doing.
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On the squad strength, with the same squad, Benitez wasn't going anywhere. So Zidane is probably more skillful in coaching/management than people thought.
I agree with your point about Barca managers, but on the other hand I have seen Barca fans playing down Enrique record saying it was won by MSN and nothing to do with coach.
He's basically doing exactly what Pep did at Barca without the mythical philosophy bravado.
Most rate Pep as one of the best in the world and very few don't rate him, so there isn't any inconsistency. It would be inconsistent if the same poster who don't rate Pep because of the squad he worked with, rates Zidane as among the best.
Also if Zidane wins the CL this season, he will achieve something no manager did since CL era started.
Di Matteo
On the squad strength, with the same squad, Benitez wasn't going anywhere. So Zidane is probably more skillful in coaching/management than people thought.
I agree with your point about Barca managers, but on the other hand I have seen Barca fans playing down Enrique record saying it was won by MSN and nothing to do with coach.
It can happen! I mean, Avram Grant was a John Terry slip away from winning the CL
Zidane has impressed me though. I think he's the real deal despite having a WC squad.
It can happen! I mean, Avram Grant was a John Terry slip away from winning the CL
Zidane has impressed me though. I think he's the real deal despite having a WC squad.
Avram Grant, imagine him winning CL, the season they sacked Jose.
To be fair Avram was close to putting his paws on a champions league trophy before Terry slipped. It says a lot that he made it that far
Damn you Giggs you were supposed to be like this guy for us
Tough expectations at Real for any manager so fair fecks to him for keeping things rather stable there, but on the flip side he did have a rather generous squad at his disposal. Similar to Pep, is able to instill his tactical ploy onto very good players. In terms of can he do it at another club with a team with far lesser depth and in a more competitive league, that would be the real test/pressure. His use of home talent is very good though.
He's also doing a magnificent job of transitioning Ronaldo from wide forward to a pure number 9.
His overuse of Benzema is strange, think Madrid are far more fluid without him.
His overuse of Benzema is strange, think Madrid are far more fluid without him.
No, FSW fell out with everyone(bar Bale) from the beginning because he has zero man-management skills
Real Madrid is a team where man-management is the most important quality for a manager, by far. He's got that in spades. Tactics don't matter much when you have a team with the quality and depth we have. That said, in big games(where tactics do matter because we're going up against teams as good or nearly as good as us in terms of quality), he's been mostly great in that aspect as well
That's overselling it just a tad. He hasn't changed the way Real play that much, he's made sensible decisions and is reaping the rewards from such a talented squad.
Makes quite a lot of sense, thanks! I think he will do brilliantly for Real, if he moves to a lesser club, we might see his weaknesses. Just as what happened to Pep.
He's doing an excellent job at Real. Been impressed with him ever since he took over them.
He is absolutely nothing like Pep, he is more like Enriqué if anything. Pep cannot work without pushing his tactical ideas and making his teams play by them whether they succeed or fail. His best teams were also highly tactically oriented which is why his Barcelona were the perfect marriage between individual quality and disciplined tactical structure. You remove the former, you have his Bayern and even more strikingly, you have City. You remove the latter, you have Zidane's or Ancelotti's Real.
More like Enrique then, just meant thatbthey started at the best team in the world and their potential flaws would reveal at weaker teams.
My opinion of him changes constantly, and I'm a Real fan. On one side, you cannot argue against his results, he's very crafty about managing egos and keeping a good aura in front of the press, and sometimes can make good tactical adjustments. On the other hand he also makes baffling tactical adjustments as well, play his favorites all the time (I want to kill somebody every time I see Benzema as a starter), his substitution patterns tend to be awful (such as subbing the best performer because he doesn't have the balls to sit someone of the BBC) and if a player is performing well, he tends to "reward" him with the bench the next game.
He has an aura of cluelessness about him but you can't argue that the players give everything for him. Sometimes that matters more than having a master tactician in command.
He has an aura of cluelessness about him but you can't argue that the players give everything for him. Sometimes that matters more than having a master tactician in command.
What competitive league? English football is far away from Spanish football, tactically and technically.
Aura is a funny thing. When you have it, it really does a lot of the job for you, it gives you the benefit of the doubt and you can win games before kicking a ball. We had that and benefited a lot from it under Fergie in his later years. The catch though is that the only thing that gives you aura is past achievements and the narrative associated with the person in question. Zidane without a question commands more aura than anyone could when it comes to managing Real Madrid. Mix that with his Ancelotti like approach when it comes to tactics and man management and you just get the perfect fit for your team. It won't produce anything like Barcelona at their best but you most definitely have a team as good anything below that seen over the past decade or so.
That is a very lazy comparison indeed. Pep is all about his tactics and looking for the perfect movement and positioning. Zidane is nothing like that, he is even more hands off than Ancelotti or Pellegrini. He allows his players so much more freedom than Pep would ever contemplate. In a way that is perfect for a team like Real, but there is a reason that after Barcelona, all of Europe were queuing up to get Pep and no one will be doing the same for Zidane after Real.
The problem in England is that everybody loves to say Pep has weaknesses, but if he tries to play like he wants everybody in the media and in the crowd is screaming why do we have to play like this, we know everything about football, so boring and so on, maybe the weakness is not only in Pep, we live in the era of so called pundits and modern fans where everything is overrated and everyone is a fraud.
I agree it is but it doesn't mean it is easier. Its chaos and relative neglect of tactics makes it more unpredictable and less dictated by pure quality which in fact makes it more difficult. I think equipped with a top squad for example, Zidane would do well with his laissez-fair attitude in a way that Pep just can't as he'd keep looking for absolute control.
I dont think Pep is trying to please the media, he is trying to perform as best as possible I think. His neglectance of defence is a glaring weakness I think for example.The problem in England is that everybody loves to say Pep has weaknesses, but if he tries to play like he wants everybody in the media and in the crowd is screaming why do we have to play like this, we know everything about football, so boring and so on, maybe the weakness is not only in Pep, we live in the era of so called pundits and modern fans where everything is overrated and everyone is a fraud.