He'll call him up again for the France NT if he gets the job!Poor Benzema
Zinedine Zidane | Resigns
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Don't know whether the translation is to the point, but what Zidane said in his resign press conference is that he faced problem during this season that he thinsk can't be overcome to keep winning. It hints at power to oversee transfer. So for all the respect talk, it seems to be go back the how much authority Zidane was given. Maintaining the current expectation is difficult when you have the power, let alone depending on the one who manage you to make good decision helping you out.
Point is it's not black & white as he's afraid having to rebuild. It's more like he feels he's running empty as he can't have much input and the downfall is inevitable going this way
It'll take a while before this mic drop is beaten.
That’s also plausible. Whatever the reason, though, I don’t begrudge him going out on a high. They are definitely in need of an imminent rebuild.
But Perez seems to be devastated by the news, that doesn't spell like there's argument between both on the how the team building strategy is working as Perez seems to want him to stay and Zidane didn't question the way the transfers were going on during summer and after that when the results were poor. On the contrary he seems to be supporting these decisions at public.
I think he just thinks the team needs some overhaul as the players are getting old and he doesn't believe he has the ability to do so, so decided to believe fearing it can turn ugly coming next years.
Where does Klopp fit into the equation? I think he would be a great fit at Real Madrid. He would get the best of your forward players plus possibly adding to it with the acquisition of Salah shortly after his arrival.
ffs, I know we have a reputation of sacking managers but even we wouldn't sack a manager and RM legend who has won us 3 CL's in a row! That would just be madness.Perez must be saying to himself so this is what it feels like.
I read somewhere that he decided to quit because didn't believe he could get the best out of his players anymore. That's quite noble of him if true.
I don't think the likes of ageing Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema are up for the level of hardwork Klopp commands from his forwards. Its always hardest to coach superstars when they are coming off their primes, that's likely one reason Zidane took off now.
Don't know if I'd want him after having seen him celebrate that CL final loss tbh. Pochettino would be great.
Klopp doesn't fit into this equation because he's a b-tech manager. Madrid will either go for the young coach with a point to prove or a serial winner.
That's s Fair point.
Klopp may also be the man for the rebuild job. The vast majority of his incoming transfers at Liverpool have been successful to varying degrees. That is reason enough to suggest he would do equally as good if not better given a larger budget. Plus you just know he would want to bring Salah with him.
I wanted Klopp to replace Ancelotti instead of Benitez, as I also think his style would suit our attackers but it comes down to what Florentino wants and I don't know if he fancies Klopp.
Klopp has something to prove for sure, especially to the club that made his Liverpool team look rather average.
Klopp is not gonna change as a manager. He's found a way that he likes to manage and sticks to it. He would most probably never consider managing Real Madrid because there is far too much pressure to win there. He had his pick of the top clubs, the two most realistic were Bayern and United when his Dortmund team were regressing. Instead he chose to stay at Dortmund and have them midtable before leaving.
This is such an interesting situation.
I can't wait to see who they go for.
Poch? Would Jose leaves us to go back there? Apparently Perez has always been keen on that. Would Klopp go if approached? I actually don't think so. I can't really see them going for Wenger. They wouldn't get Simeone. Are there any top international managers who may be available after the WC?
This also means that if Perez feels Ronaldo and Bale should leave, they'll leave. Guaranteed. It'll be agreed with the new manager.
I can't wait to see who they go for.
Poch? Would Jose leaves us to go back there? Apparently Perez has always been keen on that. Would Klopp go if approached? I actually don't think so. I can't really see them going for Wenger. They wouldn't get Simeone. Are there any top international managers who may be available after the WC?
This also means that if Perez feels Ronaldo and Bale should leave, they'll leave. Guaranteed. It'll be agreed with the new manager.
Don't think this was as surprising as people think. His reasoning for it makes sense, after all he's won he wasn't able to keep the players motivated for the national competitions and after another CL win it would have been the same next season. More than anything they need someone who will be able to keep the players hungry as getting to the top is easier than staying there.
If I had to make a prediction, I think Poch will stay at Spurs and they'll go for Allegri.
If I had to make a prediction, I think Poch will stay at Spurs and they'll go for Allegri.
Btw the only coach who can replace Zidane without significant changes of the squad plus few more Galactico Transfers by Perez is Vicente Del Bosque. Real will play with a certain style too..
Imagine being one of the best players to ever play and one of the best managers ever
Perez and Del Bosque hate each other. No chance.
If they keep that core of players and maintain that Real Madrid tradition of superstars, I can't see any coach with a clear and thorough playing or tactical vision working there. There is a reason the likes of Del Bosque, Ancelotti and Zidane worked so perfectly and why Benitez and once re-established again after 2 years, Mourinho found it difficult there. If they are in a position like they were in 2010 where their ego is not so big and they accept they have to start over, they may indulge someone as demanding as the top managers tend to be and allow them to build the team in their image. But a top Real Madrid need a manager with very little ego who will just make sure they get along. This is why I can't see Poch, Klopp, Simeone, Mourinho, Pep or Conte going there now at least. Out of the well known name, a good shout might be Allegri or Löw. Other than that, I can see them going for some promising La Liga coach or another ex player with a decent managerial experience like Barcelona did with Enriqué.
Wenger could learn a thing or two about him, people were always making excuses for his lack of success but he always had the option to step aside like Zidane just did and even if I want Zidane to continue it really speaks volume about his integrity as a person and professional.
"No estoy pensando en eso. Sólo digo que después de tres años es la decisión que he tomado. Me puedo equivocar o que haya gente que piense otra cosa. Pero si no veo claramente que vamos a seguir ganando... A lo largo de la temporada puede pasar de todo, pero si no lo veo tan claro como quiero, llega un momento en el que dices que es mejor cambiar y no seguir y hacer tonterías".
"No estoy pensando en eso. Sólo digo que después de tres años es la decisión que he tomado. Me puedo equivocar o que haya gente que piense otra cosa. Pero si no veo claramente que vamos a seguir ganando... A lo largo de la temporada puede pasar de todo, pero si no lo veo tan claro como quiero, llega un momento en el que dices que es mejor cambiar y no seguir y hacer tonterías".
I just him want to leave Liverpool and take Salah with him.
Wenger was much more invested in Arsenal than Zidane or any other manager bar Fergie can ever be though. It's significantly more difficult to step aside from something that you as good as built. He endured a decade of penny pinching to build that stadium that was going to benefit Arsenal long term, turning down big job offers that were going to bring a much bigger chance for success. In the end he definitely should have left before he did but it is not unfathomable that he felt he deserved more time considering he gave to that club much more than most managers do.
Zidane will probablly be France next manager after the WC.
Pochettino will probablly go to Madrid. He signed a new contract with the Spurs, but in that contract there is a clause that he can resign if Madrid or PSG offered him the job as manager.
By the way, winning 9 throphies in 2.5 years while having spent only 75 million euros in that time while gaining more money from selling some players is an amazing achievement.
Grande Zizou!!
Pochettino will probablly go to Madrid. He signed a new contract with the Spurs, but in that contract there is a clause that he can resign if Madrid or PSG offered him the job as manager.
By the way, winning 9 throphies in 2.5 years while having spent only 75 million euros in that time while gaining more money from selling some players is an amazing achievement.
Grande Zizou!!
While Perez and Zidane shared mutual respect for each other and on the same page on the general thing, by what Zidane said, there was thing is out of his hand and it looked like it can't be resolved. Something can be very small like hypothetically how players may go to Perez first bypass Zidane. It's harder for Zidane to motivate them as it's already naturally harder with the height they reach. Even if Perez decision is still favor Zidane, with the third man involved, it's a different game than if the players only have one options. With the third CL win, I think Perez didn't expect Zidane to quit not because they don't have difference, but he thinks the glamour of the feat would compel Zidane to overlook the difference and keep going. You know the prima donna just needs here & there reassurance hugs.
I agree that they need huge change, I just disagree about the reason as Zidane doesn't fancy the rebuild job. It's more like he disagree on how to move this team on.
I'm shocked at this news. Talk about leaving whilst you're on top.
Fair points. I still think we're both just guessing as there's no accurate information on their relations behind closed doors so it can go both ways.
Meh, he's the least of any United fan's worries. He's a worse Benitez back in the 2000s when Mourinho was our big problem. Now we have Mourinho, and Guardiola is the big problem.
There is no such clause. It's a made-up fantasy to provide media click-bait.
Yes, the decision has been very abrupt and clearly something Zidane decided RECENTLY, so it must have been about something he discussed the past days with Florentino that made Zidane decide to leave. Just not very long ago he was talking about wanting to stay in the team if he was allowed so is very likely there were some differences in how to approach the incoming seasons and what changes need to be made.
After the terrible start Zidane prevented transfers to happen in winter, not selling or buying new players and he has also been the one backing up players like Keylor Navas.
Not that his new contract is really that much of an obstacle. Real could simply stump up the £30 million it would take to buy out his contract and Levy won't have a leg to stand on.
Whether Real would opt to pay that amount of money for a new coach is another matter of course.
It feels weird that someone can win 3 CL's on the bounce and still not convince as a manager. He inherited all the players he used. Great man management though to be fair to him. I think he looked at the team realised the milage on the clock and thought crap how do I rebuild. Three years is a short time to worry about whistling the same old tune.
On the other hand leaving as a triple CL manager is as good a way to go out on top as their is. He is probably financially secure for life and the Bernabeu is a pressure cooker. For him its nice he left on his own terms.
On the other hand leaving as a triple CL manager is as good a way to go out on top as their is. He is probably financially secure for life and the Bernabeu is a pressure cooker. For him its nice he left on his own terms.
You believe that?
Maybe it was made up by the media, thats what I read when he signed the new contract.
Still if that isn't true, what it is true is that Levy has a good relationship with Real Madrid and Florentino. And if Pochettino wants to go to Madrid, there is no reason they won't negociate with them, specially when they are not PL rivals.
Tell ya what lads, when we inevitably sack Mourinho in December, we’ll have some great candidates that are available to choose from. Conte, Sarri and my now personal favorite Zidane.
The madrid job is a poisoned chalice. Don't know how you can top 3 champions leagues in a row with a squad that needs refreshing.
It's the media, Poch was wanted by Munich, PSG and Madrid... Poch signs a new contract, then all of a sudden there is a clause for PSG and Madrid, he even signed that contract before the CL final when there was a possibility of ZZ getting the chop. Poch very well end up at Madrid at some point in his career but IMO not for a while. I mean you win 3 CLs in a row and the headlines are Ronaldo and Bale wanting out now the manager resigning. Whoever manages you next will simply be a fall guy.