Paul Pogba
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Holy shit that was good.
Give the kid a chance this season Fergie! 
There's no reason why he shouldn't get a few Carling Cup games. Big talent.
outshone gibson
It doesn't even look like he got the ball out of his feet. Superb strike.
Fa cup and a few sub appearances as well.
There is no need to rush the lad. He's going to be a big star in the future if he's managed correctly (which he will be).
I hope he goes on loan to preferably a premier league team - maybe QPR or Norwich.
Is he ready for that?
We should keep him. With Fletcher not around, I think he may get a little bench time. Especially if Gibson goes.
I still think taking the Welbeck route with him is best. Just a few sub appearances here and there, and Carling Cup games for this season. Then next season see about getting him a loan if he needs it.
People are kidding themselves if they think a PL team will loan someone just out of the academy who has never played first team football and throw them into the side straight away.
he needs to establish himself with the reserves first..a few outstanding performances and he will get his chance in the carling cup..
People are getting ahead of themselves with Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe (to a lesser extent). There's good reason for the excitement, they're a talented bunch, but I think some of the expectations are inflated.
We'll see Pogba and Morrison in early rounds of the cups this season. Maybe a sub appearance or two in the league (especially if we don't buy a midfielder). Nothing more though.
We'll see Pogba and Morrison in early rounds of the cups this season. Maybe a sub appearance or two in the league (especially if we don't buy a midfielder). Nothing more though.
I think we might have no choice but to use him this season if we carry on buggering about with (not) recruiting bodies in central midfield
Its a big jump from the level he's playing in to the Premiership.
Nope. We will rather convert Jones, Park or even someone like Fabio or Smalling to midfield than give a youngster like Pogba a go. He has no experience at all in professional football and we've seldom given a chance to players as young as him in our midfield.
Can someone remind me if Sir Alex wanted to play fletcher when he was 16?..I think Sir Alex is the best because over the years he's done things other managers wouldn't...however, there's no real rush and we need to still get rid of Gibson and try to get the best ouf of cleverly. You can't rule anything out. Kiko came into the team..off the back of his performances at youth/reserve level - but he didn't do enough to stay there. Twins from flipping Brazil...came in ...and are now squad members/first teamers. Fabio even played against barca ahead of experienced professionals in a champions league final....there are many examples of Sir Alex not being rigid, especially at a time where midfield is an area we're focussing on.
What amazes is the lack of faith people here have of our existing midfielders.
In recent years, we have won the Premiership and appeared int CL final regularly. Paul Scholes didn't get us there single-handedly and last season he was a bit part player so, its the midfielders we have now who got us the 19th title and got us to the final against Barca.
In recent years, we have won the Premiership and appeared int CL final regularly. Paul Scholes didn't get us there single-handedly and last season he was a bit part player so, its the midfielders we have now who got us the 19th title and got us to the final against Barca.
I think Scholes had more of a role to play last season than you're crediting him for. That's what we'll miss, in the league especially.
The CL midfield of
Carrick - Giggs
Rooney
Will be fine, with Fletcher and Anderson capable of coming in for the deeper two, and Young for Rooney.
The CL midfield of
Carrick - Giggs
Rooney
Will be fine, with Fletcher and Anderson capable of coming in for the deeper two, and Young for Rooney.
To be fair, players like him don't come along all that often.
When he's good enough, he'll play. Age won't come into it.
I know you'd love to think otherwise, but he's not ready. It's really that simple.
This Pogba bloke looks like he could get somewhere !
I agree completely, he'd get found out at a higher level in terms of his knowledge of the game currently (as a midfielder I mean). His potential is unquestionable
McEachran looked very promising last season playing in 17 matches for Chelsea at 17 y o. Are many of you saying then that Pogba's not as far on in his development?
Give him to Fergie Jnr for 6 months.
No one knows how he would do with the big boys. So Fergie should just throw him in our midfield and see how he does. He's done it in the past, and I dont see why Pogba shouldnt be given a small chance already this season
Yeah, I would say that, different players though.
how do you know?...Giggs was 17...some people talk nonsense when it comes to kids. Even when you are a full time pro, you will make mistakes. Pogbas 18 - yes he's still growing but so was Giggs...
I think if you play him in midfield with experience, he will do fine because he's a confident boy and has the ability to back that up. We dominate against most of the teams, especially at home ...the idea we can't give him or Morrison etc minutes is laughable.
Dont agree with the giggs bit because it was a different era. But youre right, if youre good enough, youre old enough.
Did he look promising for the fact that he came on? I never noticed him apart from when the graphics with his name came on the screen whilst he was being subbed on.
it was a different era but Giggs was still 17...there was harder tackles allowed back then.....and he was still developing psysically ..
There was a period where Chelsea raised the level of English football, where you couldn't lose a game - and people said that made it tougher to give kids a chance but that's changed over the last two seasons. For the first time in many years, we've not got a settled midfield...and people can say Arsenal suffered for having to many kids but we still have experience in the squad to help the youth.
Giggs was different though, central midfield is a war zone at the best of times
that's football isn't it? It's not a different sport when you play up the levels, you're just playing older men. You just deal with a higher levels of pressure. Where ever you are on the field you have to face someone. People feared about Rafael and Fabio and now no one gives a shit because people realised they can play. They accepted it. Someone like Pogba and various others can play. It's not false confidence.
If a 16 year old fabregas and an 18 year old Pogba were side by side, I don't think many people would point at Fabregas as being the one ready...but sometimes you have to accept they can play. To many people go for the party line. He's not ready! Loan him out! Apparently Petrucci was close to Romas first team but since he's not played, we should loan him out to a championship club...etc...
Gary neville/Phil Neville/Paul Scholes/Nicky Butt/Ryan Giggs never loaned out
David beckham - loaned out - played only 5 games....
If a 16 year old fabregas and an 18 year old Pogba were side by side, I don't think many people would point at Fabregas as being the one ready...but sometimes you have to accept they can play. To many people go for the party line. He's not ready! Loan him out! Apparently Petrucci was close to Romas first team but since he's not played, we should loan him out to a championship club...etc...
Gary neville/Phil Neville/Paul Scholes/Nicky Butt/Ryan Giggs never loaned out
David beckham - loaned out - played only 5 games....
I'm not sure what to make if the 'he's not ready' comments. It's obvious that he's not at the level where he could step into our first team and play all the time, that much is obvious. But we're talking about his development here and perhaps he is ready to play a few games whenever possible to continue to progress as a player. The better the level he plays at, the more benefit he will take from it.
In my opinion, a player will never be ready for the first team until he has experience with the first team
In my opinion, a player will never be ready for the first team until he has experience with the first team
I agree. They're not too young to play for us. Look at it this way, if we went out and spent £3 million on Pogba and the same on Morrison right now, people would expect they're being bought for the first team. Our youngsters will never be ready in some peoples eyes, no matter how good they are.
The reserves was far more competitive back when Scholes etc were coming through, the loan deals are used to continue their development at a higher level, higher pressure and expectations. It also takes them out of their comfort zones and many come back maturer individuals too.
There's no party line, just common sense based on the experience of other youngsters under SAF. The one thing you can trust though is that if they are good enough, they'll get a chance. No need to be impatient or heap too much pressure on them too young.
Thats the way i see it aswell
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