Evra accuses Suarez of racist remarks | Suarez guilty of racial abuse

By pleading not guilty during his hearing, if found guilty he will face a much longer ban won't he?
 
LFC is a club with an international following. They would be within their rights to let him go for making racist remarks, which is what the FA has charged him with.

And lose an asset worth £30m? it won't be happening.
 
LFC is a club with an international following. They would be within their rights to let him go for making racist remarks, which is what the FA has charged him with.

You know he still has to be found guilty (not to mention the fact that Liverpool will scream to the high heavens about whatever short ban he gets if he is found guilty and claim he's been hard done by etc.)? Nothing will change.
 
Hardly.. do you think that is the solution?

There is still no conclusive evidence. He's not been found guilty yet.

If found guilty, that would certainly be an option and a solution for LFC.

The FA will present its evidence if he fights the charge.

I knew he had hung himself when he gave his weak resonse about what he 'meant' when he said what he said.

The idiot.
 
It's a shit option though, it would be much easier to deny or if worst came to worst rehabilitate him rather than firing a very expensive asset.
 
RAWK have outdone themselves:

So anyway, whatever is the case, now Suarez who is just learning english, so cannot use his mother tongue in the game then, forbidden to say anything in spanish? to avoid being misunderstood because of his culture? I find that more racist

Now it's the FA who are being racist against Suarez. :lol:
 
I can't believe some people are buying this "he was calling him mate in spanish" excuse :lol:
 
I wonder how many here are just pleased because it's a liverpool player possibly getting banned?
I think in this case a player was seemingly trying to wind up a opposition player by insinuating a racist remark about the other players ethnic origin. I don't think Suarez is racist but he did use the race card.
Suarez does have some history in this case, most notably the biting incident against PSV when at Ajax.
I think because he's quite small he tries to make up for the lack his physical presence, but in these cases he has gone over the top. I suspect a hefty ban & fine from the FA.
 
I can't believe some people are buying this "he was calling him mate in spanish" excuse :lol:

I know it's only wiki but

Negro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

n Spain, Mexico and almost all of Latin-America, negro (note that ethnonyms, names of nationalities, etc. are generally not capitalized in Romance languages) means "black person" in colloquial situations, but it can be considered to be derogatory in other situations (as in English, "black" is often used to mean irregular or undesirable, as in "black market/mercado negro"). However, in Spanish-speaking countries such as Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay where there are few people of African origin and appearance, negro (negra for females) is commonly used to refer to partners, close friends[13] or people in general independent of skin color. In Venezuela the word negro is similarly used, despite its large African descent population.

It is similar to the use of the word "nigga" in urban communities in the United States. For example, one might say to a friend, "Negro ¿Como andas? (literally "Hey, black one, how are you doing?"). In this case, the diminutive negrito is used, as a term of endearment meaning "pal", "buddy" or "friend". Negrito has come to be used to refer to a person of any ethnicity or color, and also can have a sentimental or romantic connotation similar to "sweetheart," or "dear" in English (in the Philippines, negrito was used for a local dark-skinned short person, living in the Negros islands among other places).

In other Spanish-speaking South American countries, the word negro can also be employed in a roughly equivalent form, though it is not usually considered to be as widespread as in Argentina or Uruguay (except perhaps in a limited regional and/or social context).
 
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, it's not a given that he will be found guilty.

Doesn't look good for him though.

why did the fa charged him then if he didn't do anything wrong? he deserved to be punished.
 
why did the fa charged him then if he didn't do anything wrong? he deserved to be punished.

Dead right. Let's do away with things like the presumption of innocence and having a fair trial. The FA charged him, ffs. It's open and shut. And we all know they never get anything wrong or follow the tides of opinions.
 
Well we can 100% rule out any sentimental or romantic connotations, seeing as Suarez was:
(a) not Evra's friend
(b) trying to wind Evra up
(c) kept calling him it despite Evra obviously being very distressed

If he called him a 'little blackie' or whatever it is, he was using it in a derogatory or condescending manner to wind Evra up, and is therefore a racist.
 
Well it looks as if FA are serious about kicking racism out of the game. I applaud them...and hope other national associations use them as an example.

To do that in football is a big step towards doing it elsewhere in the world. Of course education is the best thing but this surely helps with the cause. UEFA and FIFA need to be harsher on this. Barr teams from competitions. Fans are a part of the club.
 
Ignorance is no excuse. I don't think there's anyone in the English speaking world who doesn't understand the negative connotations that come with the 'N-word'. For Suarez to use a word that can so easily be construed as racist against a black player 10 or more times in a game smacks of stupidity and he's left himself open to exactly what is happening right now. In a case like this, what the offender means is ultimately irrelevant if what was said can be construed as racial abuse and that's how the victim took it, I think.
 
By pleading not guilty during his hearing, if found guilty he will face a much longer ban won't he?

If you plead guilty you would definitely be punished but in cases like this it's likely the punishment would be more lenient. If he's found guilty after pleading not guilty the leniency won't be there. I'd assume as much but I'm not a law man.
 
I wonder how many here are just pleased because it's a liverpool player possibly getting banned?
I think in this case a player was seemingly trying to wind up a opposition player by insinuating a racist remark about the other players ethnic origin. I don't think Suarez is racist but he did use the race card.
Suarez does have some history in this case, most notably the biting incident against PSV when at Ajax.
I think because he's quite small he tries to make up for the lack his physical presence, but in these cases he has gone over the top. I suspect a hefty ban & fine from the FA.

I would not want any player of ours that did what Suarez has been charged with, if found guilty at our club.

If you mean some of us are glad that this 'misfortune' has happened to Liverpool...

hmmm you are right.

Best could not have been bigger than Suarez...there really is no excuse for Surez doing what he has done in the past.

Whatever the FA finally end up doing, Liverpool and him will be tainted...unless Liverpool step up.

This will be interesting drama.
 
RAWK have outdone themselves:



Now it's the FA who are being racist against Suarez. :lol:

It's all rather pathetic.Suarez knew exactly what he was doing when trying to wind up Evra...it's backfired so now it comes down to a language misunderstanding? I doubt if any sensible Liverpool supporters out there, and there happens to be a large contingent of Black and Asian supporters, are buying any of that bollocks.

But I feel he'll be given a light sentence and some sort of community service rubbish.....cue pictures of him shaking hands with some smiling black people
 
Holy hell. I hope he gets banned for at least 5 matches.

It's a shame that the "| Suarez charged with racial abuse" Doesn't really work as redcafe just substitutes it to "..." unless you go on the United Forum
 
Since it's a pretty rare charge there's no way of knowing where this one will go. Like when Ben Haim was charged for simulation with the Rooney incident against Bolton a few years back - and cleared. So I've no idea how this will end.

On a positive/negative note... If he's banned, he could miss Liverpool's match with City next Sunday. Which may be justice, but won't be great for us on professional only terms.
 
He has denied using racist abuse as he called him Negrito which literally means "Little black man" but in his country can also mean "mate". He claims United players called him "mate" so that means what he said is fine.

He's not in his country, he's in England so obviously it's completely different.
Yes it does also mean 'little black man'. He repeatedly said it over and over again, he knew full well what he was doing and saying. He wanted to wind Evra up and I find it disgusting that he used that type of term to do it. How on earth LFC can back him over this? He should be fined and banned, only way to teach the cnut a lesson.
 
A natural response from a Liverpool supporter (on RAWK, duh).

the latest stage in what appears to be a concerted effort to unsettle a top class foreign player....Ferguson and his arselickers in the media and at the FA are responsible for this development

I like how they think that anyone in the top four would feel the need to bother unsettling anyone in that current Liverpool squad.
 
It's all rather pathetic.Suarez knew exactly what he was doing when trying to wind up Evra...it's backfired so now it comes down to a language misunderstanding? I doubt if any sensible Liverpool supporters out there, and there happens to be a large contingent of Black and Asian supporters, are buying any of that bollocks.

But I feel he'll be given a light sentence and some sort of community service rubbish.....cue pictures of him shaking hands with some smiling black people

Pienso tambien.

At any stage did Suarez's body language towards Evra look friendly? He was saying 'pal' was he? He didn't think the word might be interpreted by a black guy as referring to his skin colour? All balls...

...and yet the F.A. will find a way to sweep this under the carpet. A slap on the wrist fine of a week's wages maybe and voila all done. No doubt el huevon Suarez will be back in the goals at the weekend for the Scouse and it will all be forgotten. :rolleyes:
 
A natural response from a Liverpool supporter (on RAWK, duh).



I like how they think that anyone in the top four would feel the need to bother unsettling anyone in that current Liverpool squad.

:lol:

Of course, everyone is responsible but Suarez. fecking morons.
 
Some RAWK quotes someone posted on another forum;

We should fight this every step of the way.
Has evra been charged with inciting the crowd?
I'd love to see the evidence.
**** u evra
Mr Alex Ferguson association done it again bravo ffs
Show me some ****ing evidence i bet theyre counting their bribes and laughing
c*nts.
Feels like a stitch up.
****ing bull**** and corrupt.
Hattrick at the weekend lad.
I might be overreacting, but that's the end of Suarez in the English league. He'd be called a racist in all the grounds, wonder if the lad can stand up to that?
Suarez for the majority of the country will be known as the "diving world cup cheating racist"
He will face a hearing, be warned about his future conduct and walk out of the hearing covered in Ferguson and Evra's mud stuck to him.
Wankers.
Yet again, alarming signs that football in this country is corrupted, rotten to the core and run by a few men with hidden agendas. Makes me want to puke.
Strange they have waited all this time and then charge him when we have 3 big games coming up.
Kick that c*nt Evra out of football.
Mr Alex Ferguson continues his Anti-Suarez campaign....Unbelievable.

:lol::wenger: