I agree, their cockiness suggests that Dalglish thinks the same.
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I agree, their cockiness suggests that Dalglish thinks the same.
According to Liverpool fans..........that picture shows that Suarez has right
According to Liverpool fans..........that picture shows that Suarez has right
amazing.
They should dock them all the points they've earned so far this season, and be forced to play a XI of black players in their remaining games.
Where's Henry??? Where is he???
It's unbelievable that he has said nothing so far.
He don't care about Liverpool Football Club?
It's unbelievable that he has said nothing so far.
He don't care about Liverpool Football Club?
Ive been doing my best to stay out of any discussion with people about this mess of a situation. When i heard the ban i was delighted they had taken action but surprised nothing had been done about Liverpool's conduct. But when the statement was released I actually felt 8 games was very little. If that report had been published with a 15 game ban nobody would have thought it was harsh. Except of course liverpool whose behaviour before during and especially after this decision has been absolutely disgraceful in every sense. We all have a laugh here at RAWK and people often say fairly that that represents a small minority of the fans but the official club statements genuinely look like they took them from rawk,written by some idiot that fancies himself as intelligent. Suarez's statement was like a schoolboys and i dont see how he is allowed to release it? Above all else though, Kenny Dalglish has behaved with the least class ive ever seen in premier league manager on par with benitez at his worst. He's blindly used this as a way to precipitate the notion that the fa have a vendetta against a club that really has no force in british football anymore. Add to that the banners at the last home game "evra is a mutant black guy" and "the fa is a corrupt disgrace". I dont claim to know the disciplinary procedures of the fa so can anyone tell me how the entire club isnt being sanctioned for the behaviour of board officials, staff, players and fans. Ive never seen the likes of it and genuinely think they should be under review and wouldnt see a 3 points deduction as a harsh penalty.
I'm thinking of opening a t-shirt printing business.
Kenny Dalglish STILL defiant over Luis Suarez ban | Mail Online
John Henry and Fenway should be the real target. After all he is the one who employs that pityful drunk psychopath.
Hah, didn't realise Olly made that gif. Found it on reddit.
Has anyone from the Suarez innocent, Evra guilty, Liverpool bestest, Kenny King side of the argument actually come up with any defence for how Commoli, Kuyt and Daglish all contradicted Suarez, whilst saying pretty much the same thing as each other?? I mean... ignoring absolutely everything else for a minute, that right there is surely a sticker?!
I've yet to see it but then they can't. To even acknowledge it would require them to open their eyes to the possibility Suarez is lying. I've been engaged in a debate with a moron (Liverpool fan) on another forum and he's ignored every question I've asked him about it.
Their hands are tied, imagine if they sacked or even disciplined the old twat. There'd be mass revolt... again.
I pinched him to try diffuse the situation.
While you were arguing
Yes
Sorry we dont understand
Well, as I said, I pinched his skin to try and diffuse the arguement
But why would that diffuse the situation
Because I pinched him
Yes but how would pinching him diffuse the situation
Because I pinched him in a conciliatory way
But you were in an arguement
Yes
How would pinching someone you're arguing with diffuse the situation
Sorry? I dont understand, I'm Uruguayan.
Surely pinching someone you're arguing with would only make the argument worse
Yes
Well why have you said you did it to diffuse the argument then?
........ it's a mistake in the wording.
While you were arguing
Yes
Sorry we dont understand
Well, as I said, I pinched his skin to try and diffuse the arguement
But why would that diffuse the situation
Because I pinched him
Yes but how would pinching him diffuse the situation
Because I pinched him in a conciliatory way
But you were in an arguement
Yes
How would pinching someone you're arguing with diffuse the situation
Sorry? I dont understand, I'm Uruguayan.
Surely pinching someone you're arguing with would only make the argument worse
Yes
Well why have you said you did it to diffuse the argument then?
........ it's a mistake in the wording.
I hear in Uruguay, pinching someone, regardless of skin colour, is actually how you express your love for all ethnic minorities.
"they could have said "shut up you idiot, let the adults handle your mess" behind the scenes.
I've decided to renounce my Irish citizenship and apply for a Dutch passport.
You know, just on the offchance that I ever get caught with a big bag of weed, so I can use the 'but, its fine in my country' defence.
You know, just on the offchance that I ever get caught with a big bag of weed, so I can use the 'but, its fine in my country' defence.
I imagine it's Kenny calling the shots at Liverpool, considering the fiasco with the last owners.
According to Liverpool fans..........that picture shows that Suarez has right
The age of consent over there is 15
So does that mean its OKKK for him to come over here and start shagging schoolgirls
According to Liverpool fans..........that picture shows that Suarez has right
They really don't get it, it's the context it was used in.
For example black isn't a racist term, but if you say to someone "I'm not speaking to you because you're black" then you've been racist. Staggering that people still aren't understanding it.
Excellent idea.
I'm going to go for Spanish... so I can have a 2 hour nap in the middle of the working day, and no one can say shit to me.
Sad thing is that's virtually verbatim.
Remember that poster OMGStopThreateningMe4Eva (or whatever his name wasy) I have a sneaking suspicion thats who put together Liverpools defence.
Excerpt from Henry Winter's article:
"Yet Suárez and Dalglish are close and the striker sounded more passionately embedded in Anfield than ever, thanking everyone at the club and saying that he now “understood more than ever what ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ means”. "
That bolded part
"Yet Suárez and Dalglish are close and the striker sounded more passionately embedded in Anfield than ever, thanking everyone at the club and saying that he now “understood more than ever what ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ means”. "
That bolded part
My mate who's a Liverpool fan said they contradicted Suarez due to him telling Kuyt in a loud stadium, Kenny not speaking Spanish, and Commoli speaking the regular Spanish and not the South American version. I gave up and went to sleep at that point
They really don't get it, it's the context it was used in.
For example black isn't a racist term, but if you say to someone "I'm not speaking to you because you're black" then you've been racist. Staggering that people still aren't understanding it.
It's a misunderstanding you see... when he says "I'm not speaking to you because you're black" what he's actually saying is, because he has so much respect for the black race, he feels his words carry no weight and would be insignificant in Evra's presence... and as such he could not possibly address a black man with words... opting instead for the sign language of pinching and hand quacking gestures.
that is unbelievable... especially the bit in bold.Kenny: 'we're not trying to be evasive..... well, we are being evasive....'
And to think the enquiry said their evidence was inconsistent... pffft!
And to think the enquiry said their evidence was inconsistent... pffft!
Very pertinent words from a Liverpool forum:
They should just sack Dalglish, he's made such a fecking mess of this whole situation. Not only is he still being sarcastic about a very serious matter but he's also implied Evra is a liar (when he's the victim), that the FA have an angenda against Liverpool and that there's some things that the FA have not revealed.
They could've at the very least of made a small apology to Evra in the midst of all this. They've admitted the use of the word "negro" and even if what they're saying was true about Suarez not using it maliciously (which is clearly bollocks) then the least they could do is apologise for the misunderstanding and any offence caused. They've not even done that. Appaulingly handled.
I'm not sure that leaving it at this will help either to be honest. Charging Liverpool for their behavior throughout this case and for their lack of apology for Evra could send out a very strong anti-racism statement. The way I see it doing nothing about Liverpool's disgusting behavior damages the PL's image more than dragging the case on would.
Just got to thinking and maybe someone with a better memory than me can clarify this, but what exactly happened with the Peter Schmeichel and Ian Wright thing? From a quick bit of research he's supposed to have called him a "Black cnut".
Ferguson stands up for Schmeichel - Sport - The Independent
What was the clubs and fans reacion to this? Now I think Liverpool have acted disgracefully over this allegation, but quotes in that article attributed to Fergie have a certain echo with what's been happening at Liverpool. I know this was never proven, and I don't think he was even charged IIRC, but wasn't it widly accepted that he did say what he was accused of? Did our fans call for his head?
Oh and there was a lovely quote attributed to Wenger in that also as to how the two should sort their differences, and maybe we could do the same. Deathmatch between Suarez and Evra....
Ferguson stands up for Schmeichel - Sport - The Independent
What was the clubs and fans reacion to this? Now I think Liverpool have acted disgracefully over this allegation, but quotes in that article attributed to Fergie have a certain echo with what's been happening at Liverpool. I know this was never proven, and I don't think he was even charged IIRC, but wasn't it widly accepted that he did say what he was accused of? Did our fans call for his head?
Oh and there was a lovely quote attributed to Wenger in that also as to how the two should sort their differences, and maybe we could do the same. Deathmatch between Suarez and Evra....
They didn't need to even menton Evra if they were so stubbornly proud to concede an inch to a rival player (like they're 12)..They just needed to slip an unassuming "I'm sorry for any offense caused" just after the "in my country" bollocks. Done. But no, they couldn't even do that.
If I make a cultural gaff that offends someone the first thing I'd do is apologise, even it it's only half hearted and (here's that word again) conciliatory. It's like an instinct. It's polite and simply not being an entitled cnut.
I remember I called one of my mates half caste once when I was younger without realising it was a dodgy phrase. He didn't even rebuke me or act offended, he just said "say mixed race mate, not that" but I still felt I had to say a quick sorry, because, you know, I'm a normal person who felt a bit embarrassed I'd used a term he didn't like.
What kind of complete cretin refuses to even apologise half heartedly for saying something that even in the inquiry he admitted to being made aware he shouldn't say again? At the least this was a cultural misunderstanding. But you still apologise for misunderstandings. If you're a normal person, and especially if you're not a racist.
Martin Samuel phrased it perfectly.
If I make a cultural gaff that offends someone the first thing I'd do is apologise, even it it's only half hearted and (here's that word again) conciliatory. It's like an instinct. It's polite and simply not being an entitled cnut.
I remember I called one of my mates half caste once when I was younger without realising it was a dodgy phrase. He didn't even rebuke me or act offended, he just said "say mixed race mate, not that" but I still felt I had to say a quick sorry, because, you know, I'm a normal person who felt a bit embarrassed I'd used a term he didn't like.
What kind of complete cretin refuses to even apologise half heartedly for saying something that even in the inquiry he admitted to being made aware he shouldn't say again? At the least this was a cultural misunderstanding. But you still apologise for misunderstandings. If you're a normal person, and especially if you're not a racist.
Martin Samuel phrased it perfectly.
He's not sorry, even though he has caused offence. An apology would have stopped all this straight after the game.
I don't think he's actually a racist, but he is an immature, childish tosser who people may like to paint as a saint but his previous bans show his true nature.
Much like this whole situation has shown the rest of the country the true nature of Liverpool and it's supporters. Victims.
I don't think he's actually a racist, but he is an immature, childish tosser who people may like to paint as a saint but his previous bans show his true nature.
Much like this whole situation has shown the rest of the country the true nature of Liverpool and it's supporters. Victims.
I still can't get over this bit. For those responses to have come from anybody older than primary school age is actually staggering.
As far as I know Peter was never charged for that was he? So Fergies comments were pretty much shown to be justified.
If he had been and charged and found guilty I doubt anyone would have any problem had the book been thrown at him, and I doubt Fergie would have tried to defend it, but there's no point talking about what might have been when the bottom line is he was never charged.
I dont think Utd have a problem punishing their own players, look at the Cantona incident for proof of that, before he was even charged the club had taken action against him, and rightly so.
Cheers Popper. What I was really wondering about was the general consensus from the fans at the time.
Despite KKK's great playing and average one as a Manager I think that his management of the Suarez situation will become his legacy. He thinks that he is doing the right thing but what will happen is that leaks will appear as time goes on and players move on. I am pretty sure that evidence will come to light that LFC (under KKK's guidance) pressurised certain players and officials into supporting the case against their better judgement. In the meantime I would love to hear that Glen Johnson is ok with being called "negro" around the halls of Anfield - WTF????
Eh they don't get it..............Liverpool are the worst club in England right now!!!!