Wayne Rooney | 2011/12 Performances

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1. Charlton - 249(758)
2. Law - 237(404)
3. Rowley - 211(424)
4. Violett - 179(293)
5. Best - 179(470)
6. Rooney - 168(350)
7. Spence - 168(510)
8. Hughes - 163(467)
9. Giggs - 162(898)
10. Scholes - 151(682)

Whilst equalling Spence with 168 goals, and going above having played less, he also joins another fantasitc United goal scorer on 168 goals. Own Goal sits pretty with 168 goals, though of course over a far greater amount of games.
 
1. Charlton - 249(758)
2. Law - 237(404)
3. Rowley - 211(424)
4. Violett - 179(293)
5. Best - 179(470)
6. Rooney - 168(350)
7. Spence - 168(510)
8. Hughes - 163(467)
9. Giggs - 162(898)
10. Scholes - 151(682)

Does anyone think he has it in him to score 12 more goals this season to go 4th on this list?
 
Whilst equalling Spence with 168 goals, and going above having played less, he also joins another fantasitc United goal scorer on 168 goals. Own Goal sits pretty with 168 goals, though of course over a far greater amount of games.

Own Goal would've actually only played a maximum of 168 games, likely less due to times he scored twice maybe thrice in one game.

Basically he has a record of at least a goal per game he played in, making him United's greatest ever goal scorer.
 
Does anyone think he has it in him to score 12 more goals this season to go 4th on this list?

Incredible to think Rooney could bump Bestie down the list this season isn't it? Without it being widely noticed Rooney scores a ridiculous amount of goals. In the calendar year 2011 having gotten over the controversy caused by his transfer request he was ridiculous productive in the goalscoring department and he's back on form now. I wouldn't put it past him to surpass his 2009/10 total if he keeps on smashing them in.
 
Own Goal would've actually only played a maximum of 168 games, likely less due to times he scored twice maybe thrice in one game.

Basically he has a record of at least a goal per game he played in, making him United's greatest ever goal scorer.

No, he's played in every game, since there's always a chance of Own Goal being on the scoresheet come the end of the match.
 
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Just seen im 6th on all time goal scoring records at man utd. Not sure if its true but if it is i am very proud. Will u all let me know pls

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My aim is to win more trophies and become all time leading scorer at man utd. Would be amazing. 81 more.

I love how there's an air of "wait a minute, I'm actually doing quite well" about these tweets.
 
There was a hint of an answer in the Pool game to the question of what the feck has happened to Wayne's long-range shooting. It was when the ball broke to him after the ref had blown (for something rubbish, can't remember what), and Wayne just smashed it into the net from about 25 yards with consummate ease. Made me think it was to do with him tensing up before he strikes a lot of the time. Not sure why this is happening - I've never known a player to lose a core skill - not something relying on pace or power, but an ability like striking a ball.
 
81 to go? So probably another 3 or 4 seasons? I think he'll do it, if he does he'll be our record goal scorer for a very very long time
 
There was a hint of an answer in the Pool game to the question of what the feck has happened to Wayne's long-range shooting. It was when the ball broke to him after the ref had blown (for something rubbish, can't remember what), and Wayne just smashed it into the net from about 25 yards with consummate ease. Made me think it was to do with him tensing up before he strikes a lot of the time. Not sure why this is happening - I've never known a player to lose a core skill - not something relying on pace or power, but an ability like striking a ball.

It's because he tries to chip everytime he's outside the box. Kidding aside I think it's because he's spent lots of time working on other facets of his game (heading etc.) as well as suffering from injuries and accommodating other stars like Ronaldo. He's not lost it all but the consistency isn't there as it was before, if he spends time and works at it he improves very quickly as evidenced by his free-kicks in the last year or so and his heading before that.
 
81 to go? So probably another 3 or 4 seasons? I think he'll do it, if he does he'll be our record goal scorer for a very very long time

In 4 seasons time, he'll be 30, so if he's broken it by then he'll still have a fair bit of time to score more goals and increase the record.

Of course, this is assuming he stays injury free and in good form.
 
It's because he tries to chip everytime he's outside the box. Kidding aside I think it's because he's spent lots of time working on other facets of his game (heading etc.) as well as suffering from injuries and accommodating other stars like Ronaldo. He's not lost it all but the consistency isn't there as it was before, if he spends time and works at it he improves very quickly as evidenced by his free-kicks in the last year or so and his heading before that.

Yeah I think he's tried to make himself more Scholes-like in general - he's cut out other low-percentage aspects of his game like those bursting runs (though that may be more ue to losing a yard).

But it seemed to be a natural talent - I'm not sure it needs that much practice. And I'm not sure it even was that low-percentage - he used to cream the thing somewhere near the goal most times he took a shot, in my recollection. Now more often than not it's a poor connection and a tame, dragged effort.
 
There was a hint of an answer in the Pool game to the question of what the feck has happened to Wayne's long-range shooting. It was when the ball broke to him after the ref had blown (for something rubbish, can't remember what), and Wayne just smashed it into the net from about 25 yards with consummate ease. Made me think it was to do with him tensing up before he strikes a lot of the time. Not sure why this is happening - I've never known a player to lose a core skill - not something relying on pace or power, but an ability like striking a ball.

I agree on the tensing up, but I also think he's better when he doesn't have a long run up or too much time to weigh it up. He can get a lot of power without much backlift, when he was a long run up he tends to drag it a bit. I've experienced this myself on the football pitch.
 
I thought it was pretty funny when he had a massive go at Welbeck for not passing to him when he was semi-through on goal (which to be fair to Danny, he had every right to shoot in that position, and a pass to Rooney would have been extremely difficult)... and Welbeck in return turned round and told him to "feck Off Wazza!"

The partnership is blossoming...

He was class on the weekend at any rate... I'm hard on him when he's shit, and i'm even harder on him when he's average, so only fair to give him some praise when he plays well.
 
I thought it was pretty funny when he had a massive go at Welbeck for not passing to him when he was semi-through on goal (which to be fair to Danny, he had every right to shoot in that position, and a pass to Rooney would have been extremely difficult)... and Welbeck in return turned round and told him to "feck Off Wazza!"

The partnership is blossoming...

He was class on the weekend at any rate... I'm hard on him when he's shit, and i'm even harder on him when he's average, so only fair to give him some praise when he plays well.

You just run around with a Rooney hard-on don't you?
 
Yeah I think he's tried to make himself more Scholes-like in general - he's cut out other low-percentage aspects of his game like those bursting runs (though that may be more ue to losing a yard).

But it seemed to be a natural talent - I'm not sure it needs that much practice. And I'm not sure it even was that low-percentage - he used to cream the thing somewhere near the goal most times he took a shot, in my recollection. Now more often than not it's a poor connection and a tame, dragged effort.

Could be trying to make the effort too perfect. Rather than just letting a shot go, with power over accuracy and forcing the keeper into a save he tries to find the exact blend of power and accuracy. Just getting the shot on target can result in fortitous things happening (corner, spilling the shot for a teammate, howler).

Not that its this every single time but could be a part of the reason
 
His goalscoring record in the big games this season has been genuinely outstanding. Overall he's having a top season, his most consistent season thus far?
 
I know people will say he scored again, but It wasn't good performance from it at all, and this isn't first time. He is scoring regulary, that's good, but he didn't have too many world class performances this season.
 
His goalscoring record in the big games this season has been genuinely outstanding. Overall he's having a top season, his most consistent season thus far?

Most consistent what? Goal scoring? Or just in the big games?

If the former, I point you to the 09/10 season.
 
Most consistent what? Goal scoring? Or just in the big games?

If the former, I point you to the 09/10 season.

Just generally I suppose. I think his best form for a prolonged period was the second half of last season and the start of this season but obviously there was a summer break between them.

He's managed to play deep, be creative and score a lot of goals this season, I think he's shown all of these assets before but only in the last 12 months has he actually put them all together.
 
His goalscoring record in the big games this season has been genuinely outstanding. Overall he's having a top season, his most consistent season thus far?

It's been far from his most consistent season. In fact, if anything, it's been one of his less consistent seasons to be honest. He started off well, but then tailed off for a while, and has found goalscoring form again recently. His most consistent season was definitely the 09/10 season, where he never really lost form at all.
 
It's been far from his most consistent season. In fact, if anything, it's been one of his less consistent seasons to be honest. He started off well, but then tailed off for a while, and has found goalscoring form again recently. His most consistent season was definitely the 09/10 season, where he never really lost form at all.

He did lose form you just forget, just like you'll forget about this season in a couple of years. I'll just quote myself again because it's remarkable people keep forgetting his lean streak in 09/0, they just remember his 34 goals.

Well this isn't true. Many forget Rooney had a run when he scored just 1 goal in 9 games in 09/10 - which is a longer run of scoring no more than a goal than he's had at any point this season. He's scored in 11 different games for us this year from 28 overall, he scored in 23 games from 44 overall in 09/10 - certainly a more consistent goalscorer but not by that huge an amount, he's just a pretty streaky goalscorer in general I think.
 
Wasn't that impressed with him today, second half was good, but the first half he looked like what he was, a player coming back from a few games out, his touch at times was very poor

Could have been in part to the way Spurs were pressing us that first half

Good second half showing though
 
Just generally I suppose. I think his best form for a prolonged period was the second half of last season and the start of this season but obviously there was a summer break between them.

He's managed to play deep, be creative and score a lot of goals this season, I think he's shown all of these assets before but only in the last 12 months has he actually put them all together.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Seems to me his all round play has just generally improved. His defensive abilities such as tackling, all his tracking back, seems to be more effective and his passing is drool-worthy as we all know.

2nd top scorer in the league this season, and he's been playing a hell of a lot deeper than anyone else in the scoring leader boards just kinda shows how well rounded his game is. I'm willing to bet he has a lot more assists than RVP, Aguero and Ba too, but I'm not 100% on that.

I personally thought he had quite a good game today as well, just because he didn't have a million shots doesn't mean he was completely poor.
 
169 goals for United now. 10 behind Viollet and Best.

More importantly, that goal was his 120th in the league for us, and it took him 240 matches to do it.

A goal every other game - not too shabby!
 
It's been far from his most consistent season. In fact, if anything, it's been one of his less consistent seasons to be honest. He started off well, but then tailed off for a while, and has found goalscoring form again recently. His most consistent season was definitely the 09/10 season, where he never really lost form at all.
Nonsense...he went two months without scoring from March onwards...and had 3-4 games in a row in december where he was shit.
 
I know people will say he scored again, but It wasn't good performance from it at all, and this isn't first time. He is scoring regulary, that's good, but he didn't have too many world class performances this season.

And yet he keeps scoring when we need one most......ill take that.
 
Not his greatest performance. Nothing seemed to come off for him yesterday but the sign of a world class striker is to score goals even on an off day and he did just that.
Was an absolute sucker punch for spurs.
 
I thought he was very good in the 2nd half as he orchestrated things and yes the all important first goal.

He's scored twice against Spurs, Liverpool and City this season and thrice against Chelsea and Arsenal.
 
Would anyone here swap him for any striker/player in the world apart from Messi and Ronaldo?
 
Would anyone here swap him for any striker/player in the world apart from Messi and Ronaldo?

I wouldn't swap him because he's ours.

But there are players better than him right now. Iniesta and Xavi, obviously. Out of those two Iniesta due to being still fairly young (unlike Xavi). Van Persie is better than him now. Silva as well, probably, going by this season's level. Otherwise, there are others who are of the same level as him so I wouldn't swap them. Feel I'm missing out on some.
 
I would not swap him for anyone in the league. Even when he is not playing well he can still be effective.

We do not realise how lucky we are to have him. Its fine to hate him, as he is a twat. But in footballing terms he is our most important player bar none!

If he was put on the transfer list there is not a team in the world that would not take him (Including Barcelona)
 
It's been far from his most consistent season. In fact, if anything, it's been one of his less consistent seasons to be honest. He started off well, but then tailed off for a while, and has found goalscoring form again recently. His most consistent season was definitely the 09/10 season, where he never really lost form at all.

Like Brwned said below you he did lose form, I remember seeing countless threads on how his overall play suffered as a result of playing so high up the pitch.

All I'm saying is since he's hit form after his contract row he's managed to remain as clinical, whilst not even being the main striker. I don't think we ever really saw that, it was more a case of we play Rooney deep and lose his goalscoring or we play him up top and lose his build up play.

He's combined the two and his form in the last year or so must be his best yet. Plus his record in the big games is better than ever.
 
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